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[NoForgiveness]

wait... the fanbase didnt stop me3 from being ruined... just i thought

[xxskyshadowxx]

Ah yes, BioWare listening to the fans...


...anyway, they'll still make heaps of money either way. If not from the core ME fanbase, then from new folks they continue to pull in from the first person shooter crowd, like they did with ME3.

[Tombone]

Newsflash - Shepard is dead and he won't be in Mass Effect 4.

[saintjimmy43]

I'm pretty sure that if we learned anything from ME3 and the EC it's that the fanbase doesn't choose things.

[Armass81]

What all the fans want is impossible to put in. Anyone seen the Poochie episode of the Simpsons?

"So you want a realistic down-to-earth show that's completely off the wall and swarming with magic robots?"

"yes, and also you should be able to win things by watching"

Modifié par Armass81, 17 décembre 2012 - 11:26 .

[T-Raks]

Sorry OP, but this is already decided. And not recently, but a long time ago. The original Mass Effect Trilogy is Shepard's story, the story how he/she was at the forefront of solving the Reaper problem of the galaxy. Now it is on to another one's story in the universe.

Nothing you can do about it other than accepting it. Staying in crybaby mode won't change anything.

[spirosz]

Seival wrote...

(1) ME3 has less flaws than any game ever developed.

[Diurdi]

T-Raks wrote...

Sorry OP, but this is already decided. And not recently, but a long time ago. The original Mass Effect Trilogy is Shepard's story, the story how he/she was at the forefront of solving the Reaper problem of the galaxy. Now it is on to another one's story in the universe.

Nothing you can do about it other than accepting it. Staying in crybaby mode won't change anything.

I don't think you understand how game development works. If EA says that a Shepard game sells better, BioWare will develop a shepard game.

To generalize, if EA says X = $, then ME4 will include X.

[Dr_Extrem]

Diurdi wrote...

T-Raks wrote...

Sorry OP, but this is already decided. And not recently, but a long time ago. The original Mass Effect Trilogy is Shepard's story, the story how he/she was at the forefront of solving the Reaper problem of the galaxy. Now it is on to another one's story in the universe.

Nothing you can do about it other than accepting it. Staying in crybaby mode won't change anything.

I don't think you understand how game development works. If EA says that a Shepard game sells better, BioWare will develop a shepard game.

To generalize, if EA says X = $, then ME4 will include X.

thats the reason, we have a mp-mode in me3.

but even if they would bring shepard back, it would not before the 6th game ...

[I Am Robot]

ME3 has more flaws than it has good qualities 

From a technical prespective that is certainly not true. Mass Effect 3 was the highest rated game of 2012.

[Diurdi]

Dr_Extrem wrote...

Diurdi wrote...

T-Raks wrote...

Sorry OP, but this is already decided. And not recently, but a long time ago. The original Mass Effect Trilogy is Shepard's story, the story how he/she was at the forefront of solving the Reaper problem of the galaxy. Now it is on to another one's story in the universe.

Nothing you can do about it other than accepting it. Staying in crybaby mode won't change anything.

I don't think you understand how game development works. If EA says that a Shepard game sells better, BioWare will develop a shepard game.

To generalize, if EA says X = $, then ME4 will include X.

thats the reason, we have a mp-mode in me3.

but even if they would bring shepard back, it would not before the 6th game ...

I don't know. It's likely that the next ME doesn't have Shepard. But if that game flops, and they still think ME universe has some value, the fifth game will have Shepard.

Sort of what Microsoft did with Halo: Reach and Halo 4.

Modifié par Diurdi, 18 décembre 2012 - 12:20 .

[Diurdi]

Farid-Yoda-N7 wrote...

ME3 has more flaws than it has good qualities 

From a technical prespective that is certainly not true. Mass Effect 3 was the highest rated game of 2012.

According to whom? The fans or game reviewers? The last couple years have proven that the vast majority of professional game reviewers are nothing but useless biomass that should be recycled for fertilizer.

Modifié par Diurdi, 18 décembre 2012 - 12:22 .

[Dr_Extrem]

Diurdi wrote...

Dr_Extrem wrote...

Diurdi wrote...

T-Raks wrote...

Sorry OP, but this is already decided. And not recently, but a long time ago. The original Mass Effect Trilogy is Shepard's story, the story how he/she was at the forefront of solving the Reaper problem of the galaxy. Now it is on to another one's story in the universe.

Nothing you can do about it other than accepting it. Staying in crybaby mode won't change anything.

I don't think you understand how game development works. If EA says that a Shepard game sells better, BioWare will develop a shepard game.

To generalize, if EA says X = $, then ME4 will include X.

thats the reason, we have a mp-mode in me3.

but even if they would bring shepard back, it would not before the 6th game ...

I don't know. It's likely that the next ME doesn't have Shepard. But if that game flops, and they still think ME universe has some value, the fifth game will have Shepard.

its ea we are talking about ... they need at least 2 faceplants in a row, to recognise it.

the next me game will sell well .. even if the story gets worse .. that is the price bioware pays.

you either sell good quality games to a smaller audience, who treats you like gods or you sell more to the throwaway-folks, who do not even end the game.

double edged sword.

[Dr_Extrem]

Diurdi wrote...

Farid-Yoda-N7 wrote...

ME3 has more flaws than it has good qualities 

From a technical prespective that is certainly not true. Mass Effect 3 was the highest rated game of 2012.

According to whom? The fans or game reviewers? The last couple years have proven that the vast majority of professional game reviewers are nothing but useless biomass that should be recycled for fertilizer.

 ah yes .. "neutral journalism in gaming journals" ..we have dismissed that claim.

[Errationatus]

chidingewe8036 wrote...

Amen Brother, let me hear the church say amen

hehe mighty balls

middle aged men who play with ponies????? hmmmm are u refering to WOW hahahahahahaaaa

No.  I believe they're referred to as "Bronies", or some such.

[axl99]

As well as "objective fans" and amateur armchair game developers on these forums too for that matter but that isn't the point of this whole topic.

The real people who are going to decide whether or not Shepard makes it in ME4 are the developers. End of story. Why are we even arguing this?

Oh right. BSN. Until a bunch of you guys have actually worked in a AAA game studio, you won't even be able to empathize with the devs, let alone each other on these forums.

[The Spamming Troll]

Dr_Extrem wrote...

the next me game will sell well .. even if the story gets worse .. that is the price bioware pays.

id say the opposite.

i dont see any reason why more people would buy ME4. id bet alot of people will hesitate in buying and most will rent first.

Modifié par The Spamming Troll, 18 décembre 2012 - 01:07 .

[HiddenInWar]

Time for a new direction.

-Sequel
-New Characters
-New Plotline
-ME3 save files are kept for ME4 so the ending you chose is the ending that continues into the new game.

[MegaSovereign]

You can probably make the next protagonist look exactly like your old Shepard. I don't see what the big deal is.

We'll probably get better voice actors too.

[Reofeir]

Seival wrote...

(1) ME3 has less flaws than any game ever developed.
(2) Shepard's story is over. Community has to deal with it.

Even though I really like ME3, as I'm sure anyone who has read my posts know...but that first point? You crazy? 

For the second...this is the truth. 

[Errationatus]

Kroitz wrote...

Finally someone who got clarity without any DLC.

Don't need DLC see to see when something is broken.

It's an odd dichotomy; in some instances, fans are perfectly correct when they point out that stories have lost their way or should have been allowed to continue.

In others, the creators were absolutely right to not listen to fans.  Sometimes you wish they hadn't when they did *cough* Talimancers *cough*. 

As fans, we only see the end-product.  Because you can draw or write fanfiction or acted in a school play does not remotely make you an expert on drama, storytelling or art.

For the most part, fans should stay fans and not pretend to be critics.  Opinions and informed opinions are two very seperate creatures.  It's why mechanics, say, don't tend to care about the opinions of non-mechanics, or why the Captain of a ship doesn't usually care about passengers offering advice on how to steer the thing.

I've said it once, I've said it a thousand times, and it's every corporations' bottom line:  "Money talks and bullsh!t walks and fans are walking bullsh!t."

[spirosz]

JakeMacDon wrote...

I've said it once, I've said it a thousand times, and it's every corporations' bottom line:  "Money talks and bullsh!t walks and fans are walking bullsh!t."

Word.

[I Am Robot]

Diurdi wrote...

Farid-Yoda-N7 wrote...

ME3 has more flaws than it has good qualities 

From a technical prespective that is certainly not true. Mass Effect 3 was the highest rated game of 2012.

According to whom? The fans or game reviewers? The last couple years have proven that the vast majority of professional game reviewers are nothing but useless biomass that should be recycled for fertilizer.

 

So you're saying professional game reviews are not valid and there is nothing to measure the quality of games against? 

[crimzontearz]

Farid-Yoda-N7 wrote...

Diurdi wrote...

Farid-Yoda-N7 wrote...

ME3 has more flaws than it has good qualities 

From a technical prespective that is certainly not true. Mass Effect 3 was the highest rated game of 2012.

According to whom? The fans or game reviewers? The last couple years have proven that the vast majority of professional game reviewers are nothing but useless biomass that should be recycled for fertilizer.

 

So you're saying professional game reviews are not valid and there is nothing to measure the quality of games against? 

dude just as an example IGN gave halo 4 9.8 and Skyrim 9.5

now, I am a huge halo fan but come the **** on