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Will players be able to play a female protagonist?


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I'm sure we will, but I just wanted to make sure;

Has it been announced or confirmed properly?

Thankyou :)

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of course, an if not i be outside there department with nicely decorated cardboard signs demanding it :P

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Yes, she will also get some marketing =)

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The real question: Blond, Brunette, or Redhead?

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Captain Crash wrote...

Yes, she will also get some marketing =)


Oh that's great!

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TheJediSaint wrote...

The real question: Blond, Brunette, or Redhead?


Blonde for warriors, Brunette for rogues and Redhead for mages for me :P

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It be interesting to see a default blonde protagonist. Some of the comments I saw during "choose FemSheps appearance" shows there is still a real stereotype around blonde women which is a shame.   A kick ass Blonde is needed imo.  Additionally Bioware haavent really had any in recent memory

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Flog the 63rd wrote...

TheJediSaint wrote...

The real question: Blond, Brunette, or Redhead?


Blonde for warriors, Brunette for rogues and Redhead for mages for me :P


I always considered it redhead for warriors (Red Sonja influences maybe), brunette for mages (more earthly toned, wild or potential for dark nature of the magic) and blondes for rogues (I think blonde for mages would seem odd to me but blonde rogues would not).

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Captain Crash wrote...

It be interesting to see a default blonde protagonist. Some of the comments I saw during "choose FemSheps appearance" shows there is still a real stereotype around blonde women which is a shame.   A kick ass Blonde is needed imo.  Additionally Bioware haavent really had any in recent memory

You have almost no blonde characters in ME likely because blonde hair generally doesn't look very good in most scenes in that engine.

Something funny I realised the other day about DA's companions. The amount of blonde male companions so far? 5. The amount of blonde female companions so far? 1. I'm sure it's just a coincidence, but still =)

EDIT: I forgot about Velanna =D

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don't know why, but I always make my male character with blond hair or light bown...and all my female character are usually brunette or, rarely, redhead. Never female blonde.
I just don't like blonde hair. and maybe is just the engine that don't jive justice to the color...
Still, I love brown/black hair for rogue and warriors female, and red or dark red for mages...

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KiddDaBeauty wrote...

Captain Crash wrote...

It be interesting to see a default blonde protagonist. Some of the comments I saw during "choose FemSheps appearance" shows there is still a real stereotype around blonde women which is a shame.   A kick ass Blonde is needed imo.  Additionally Bioware haavent really had any in recent memory

You have almost no blonde characters in ME likely because blonde hair generally doesn't look very good in most scenes in that engine.

Something funny I realised the other day about DA's companions. The amount of blonde male companions so far? 5. The amount of blonde female companions so far? 1. I'm sure it's just a coincidence, but still =)

EDIT: I forgot about Velanna =D


I don't think they're that much. Anders and Zevran were blond. Don't know about Alistair and Varric, I'd say they're light brown. Even with them, they're four, not five.
Or are you adding the temporary companions? In that case we got Tamlen.

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I don't think they will remove the choice of what sex you can choose until DA:4 at the very least, maybe even DA:5 if we are lucky.

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Dear Maker, the backlash if they didn't would be......bad. As in Bioware-is-destroyed bad.

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Dear Maker, the backlash if they didn't would be......bad. As in Bioware-is-destroyed bad.


I think they'll slowly inch  their way there.

If things go to plan then in 5 years time I'd be expecting to see Witcher style RPGs as BW's main FRPG focus.

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that presumes that we will have just another forced pc like Hawke or Shep i believe.

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For all its worth, very likely.

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SpunkyMonkey wrote...

CastonFolarus wrote...

Dear Maker, the backlash if they didn't would be......bad. As in Bioware-is-destroyed bad.


I think they'll slowly inch  their way there.

If things go to plan then in 5 years time I'd be expecting to see Witcher style RPGs as BW's main FRPG focus.


Because you know that EA/Bioware's secret plan is making a canonic male PC, with no CC?
Considering that what EA cares about is money, I'd think they'll look more to Skyrim than TW.

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hhh89 wrote...

SpunkyMonkey wrote...

CastonFolarus wrote...

Dear Maker, the backlash if they didn't would be......bad. As in Bioware-is-destroyed bad.


I think they'll slowly inch  their way there.

If things go to plan then in 5 years time I'd be expecting to see Witcher style RPGs as BW's main FRPG focus.


Because you know that EA/Bioware's secret plan is making a canonic male PC, with no CC?
Considering that what EA cares about is money, I'd think they'll look more to Skyrim than TW.



Possibly. I guess DA:3 will give us a better indication all-round.

And I don't think the plan is exactly secret is it? BW have already made several announcements for DA:3 which change what was in DA:O and make it fall into line more with The Witcher (voiced protagonist, only 1 race etc.).

Those things may already appear in DA:2 but it re-enforces the direction of their intent.

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Captain Crash wrote...

It be interesting to see a default blonde protagonist. Some of the comments I saw during "choose FemSheps appearance" shows there is still a real stereotype around blonde women which is a shame.   A kick ass Blonde is needed imo.  Additionally Bioware haavent really had any in recent memory


A kickass blonde is the way to go. Buffy showed me that.

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I want a bald female protagonist.

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SpunkyMonkey wrote...


Possibly. I guess DA:3 will give us a better indication all-round.

And I don't think the plan is exactly secret is it? BW have already made several announcements for DA:3 which change what was in DA:O and make it fall into line more with The Witcher (voiced protagonist, only 1 race etc.).

Those things may already appear in DA:2 but it re-enforces the direction of their intent.


Voiced PC and one race option were features Bioware implemented already in their games. KOTOR, JE, and ME were released before DAO and have one race option. ME had already a voiced PC. They're not following TW's approach. They're following the other approach that they followed for their other games.
Which means that there is no proof that they're going to follow TW's approach of having only a male fixed PC. Saying that they're going to follow TW's approach, considering that most of their games have one race option (ME, ME2, ME3, JE, and KOTOR, in comparison of BG, BG2, NWN and DAO), and they already had one IP with voiced PC (and they used that IP's dialogue system too) is ridicolous. The fact that DA2 is their first fantasy RPG with voiced PC doesn't mean that they're following TW's approach.
Which we don't even know if CDPR will follow for their other games. They're "forced" to make a fixed male PC in TW. We don't know if they're going in that approach with Cyberpunk 2077.

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The gender I play depends largely on superficial things. In DA:O, it was a lot easier for me to create an attractive female than it was for me to create an attractive male, so most of my Wardens were female. In DA2, improvements to the male face models allowed me to create attractive Hawkes of either gender, so the determining factor became the voice actor. I prefer Nicholas Boulton's voice, so most of my Hawkes were male.

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berelinde wrote...

The gender I play depends largely on superficial things. In DA:O, it was a lot easier for me to create an attractive female than it was for me to create an attractive male, so most of my Wardens were female. In DA2, improvements to the male face models allowed me to create attractive Hawkes of either gender, so the determining factor became the voice actor. I prefer Nicholas Boulton's voice, so most of my Hawkes were male.


I played indifferently both males and females in DAO (though it's true that is was easier to create an attractive female PC than an good-looking male PC). In DA2, I finished only one, but for my canon I'll go with male. I don't like much the female VA too. Nichoulas Boulton did a good job, in my opinion.

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hhh89 wrote...

SpunkyMonkey wrote...


Possibly. I guess DA:3 will give us a better indication all-round.

And I don't think the plan is exactly secret is it? BW have already made several announcements for DA:3 which change what was in DA:O and make it fall into line more with The Witcher (voiced protagonist, only 1 race etc.).

Those things may already appear in DA:2 but it re-enforces the direction of their intent.


Voiced PC and one race option were features Bioware implemented already in their games. KOTOR, JE, and ME were released before DAO and have one race option. ME had already a voiced PC. They're not following TW's approach. They're following the other approach that they followed for their other games.
Which means that there is no proof that they're going to follow TW's approach of having only a male fixed PC. Saying that they're going to follow TW's approach, considering that most of their games have one race option (ME, ME2, ME3, JE, and KOTOR, in comparison of BG, BG2, NWN and DAO), and they already had one IP with voiced PC (and they used that IP's dialogue system too) is ridicolous. The fact that DA2 is their first fantasy RPG with voiced PC doesn't mean that they're following TW's approach.
Which we don't even know if CDPR will follow for their other games. They're "forced" to make a fixed male PC in TW. We don't know if they're going in that approach with Cyberpunk 2077.




All BW's D&D games kept character creation though - it's a far bigger step to remove that from a DA, D&D style game than it is create a new franchize ala KOTR or The Witcher.

that's what worries me - that BW + EA seem to be applying this ME template to everything. I know it was a template around before ME, but it seems as if ME financial success has caused the finance men to impose that said template to all games, regardless of their heritage or foundation.

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All BW's D&D games kept character creation though - it's a far bigger step to remove that from a DA, D&D style game than it is create a new franchize ala KOTR or The Witcher.

that's what worries me - that BW + EA seem to be applying this ME template to everything. I know it was a template around before ME, but it seems as if ME financial success has caused the finance men to impose that said template to all games, regardless of their heritage or foundation.



But the ME IP has a CC. It doesn't have a race option, and DA2 didn't have either, but the CC of DAO and DA2 are practically the same.
I can understand the concern on applying ME's template on other Bioware's game, but female PC option isn't in danger because of this, since is present in ME.