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[LittleDiegito]

Sharn01 wrote...

Its a legitimate question, and not one I would consider out of line either.  If someone told me bioware was going to make a fantasy based rpg that did not have race selection I would not have believed them at one point in time, so there you go. 

Why would you not have believed that? Bioware has made fourteen games (not counting expansion packs) and only five of those (two of which are sequels and one is an MMO which came out AFTER DA2) allow for race selection.

[Heimdall]

Milan92 wrote...

Just curious, if Isabela isnt black, then what is she?

Rivaini, which I always interpreted to be more swarthy Mediterranean European but oh well.

[slimgrin]

Milan92 wrote...

Just curious, if Isabela isnt black, then what is she?

A caucasian with black spray paint?

[Milan92]

EntropicAngel wrote...

Milan92 wrote...

Just curious, if Isabela isnt black, then what is she?

Mediterranean? Spitballing there, but it's obvious to me she isn't black. At least in real-world terms.

Not in real-world terms? Really? Thats weird since I actually know a black girl that has her facial structure. 

[Heimdall]

Milan92 wrote...

EntropicAngel wrote...

Milan92 wrote...

Just curious, if Isabela isnt black, then what is she?

Mediterranean? Spitballing there, but it's obvious to me she isn't black. At least in real-world terms.

Not in real-world terms? Really? Thats weird since I actually know a black girl that has her facial structure. 

Is she biracial?

[Milan92]

slimgrin wrote...

Milan92 wrote...

Just curious, if Isabela isnt black, then what is she?

A caucasian with black spray paint?

Are you serious..... 

[Nozybidaj]

Mary Kirby wrote...

Why is this even a question? Of course you can play a female protagonist.

I don't see why this would be considered such an off the wall question. 

BW devs and mods often like to cite, when changes are made that fans happen to dislike, that just because you've done things one way in the past doesn't beholden you to doing so for all time.  If we take those words to heart would it have been such an out of bounds question before DAII to ask if we would be able to play elves and dwarves?

Now in this case I seem to recall a female protagonist was confirmed and that there was even promo materials slated to showcase her, so maybe in this particular case the question was redundant.  But in a general sense is it?

I suppose the question is silly right up until the answer is no?

Modifié par Nozybidaj, 19 décembre 2012 - 03:30 .

[ObserverStatus]

Milan92 wrote...
Just curious, if Isabela isnt black, then what is she?

Uh, idk, Indian?

Modifié par bobobo878, 19 décembre 2012 - 03:25 .

[Milan92]

EntropicAngel wrote...

Milan92 wrote...

Not in real-world terms? Really? Thats weird since I actually know a black girl that has her facial structure. 

I'd ask the same thing as Lord Aesir did. Is she a half-breed?

(and don't get offended, I'm one--I'm not being mean, that's just what I call it)

Black people have coarse hair. High cheekbones. Likely other structural things I'm missing.

Caucasian dad with afro american mom. 

[Ghost Lightning]

slimgrin wrote...

Milan92 wrote...

Just curious, if Isabela isnt black, then what is she?

A caucasian with black spray paint?

[Milan92]

EntropicAngel wrote...

Milan92 wrote...

Caucasian dad with afro american mom. 

Personal curiosity--was her hair coarse or smooth?

I have a minor theory on the coarse hair gene that involves the genders of the parents.

She says coarse.

[lil yonce]

EntropicAngel wrote...

Black people in Thedas aren't like black people IRL, then, I guess. Handy to know.

They sure aren't. Though we've only seen what, like two Rivani? Maybe with a new engine more accommodating to racial nuance, we'll see more of, and learn more about them.

[Milan92]

EntropicAngel wrote...

Milan92 wrote...

She says coarse.

hmm, supports my theory, but i need more data.

But thanks.

More data huh? Really dude, just be honest if you want to jerk yourself off at a picture of my girlfriend. Its so much easier that way.

[Thrillian]

Milan92 wrote...

EntropicAngel wrote...

Milan92 wrote...

She says coarse.

hmm, supports my theory, but i need more data.

But thanks.

More data huh? Really dude, just be honest if you want to jerk yourself off at a picture of my girlfriend. Its so much easier that way.

Wow, that's quite a leap.  I'm pretty sure EntropicAngel meant more data from other biracial people about their hair, not more data about your girlfriend.

[Quirkylilela]

I always pictured isabela as having similar skin colour as blackbeards daughter from the last pirates of the Caribbean movie but maybe that was just because they were both pirates. No matter what race she is she didn't look black so either she isn't or her appearance ingame was done poorly.

[Plaintiff]

Nefla wrote...

Ok, without sarcasm: Maybe future stories can only be told through a male perspective as DA2 and DA3 can only be told through a human perspective. Maybe they will decide the extra time and resources adding a fully voiced female option are not worth it and cut the option. Their telemetry data shows that most people played a human male warrior in DA:O for example, why waste resources on something most people will never use? The data also shows that most people don't finish games let alone do additional playthroughs and a huge percentage of male players would never play a female character anyways because they "can't identify" with a woman. The percentage of women who would refuse to play a fixed male character and thus refuse to buy a game with one is much smaller. A lot of things that had been a draw and a staple in previous games are being cut and streamlined in favor of trying to entice new audiences and get games out quicker, so at this point I doubt anything is off the chopping block. You may be able to choose your gender now, but who knows how much streamlining will affect future games. I never thought there would be a Mass Effect without exploration, being able to shape your Shepard, and a stirring ending where you come out victorious or a Dragon age where you can't choose a race or background, where the world is no longer grand, intriguing, and beautiful, but times change. I think "will I be able to play a female protagonist" is a valid question.

What the telemetry data shows is irrelevent, Bioware's decisions are not based purely on the data, if any of them are based on it at all.

As others have pointed out, in the vast history of Bioware products, only a minority have ever allowed for racial selection, but many more have allowed for gender selection. Abandoning an imaginary trend that they never strictly followed is not the same as abandoning an actual trend that is far more common in their line of products.

[Allan Schumacher]

Well the answer to this thread has been stated (yes, you can), and it's already venturing into some bizarro off topics as well as the same slippery slope type of questions.

I agree, it's fine to ask the question. It's been answered.