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[The Heretic of Time]

KotorEffect3 wrote...

Heretic_Hanar wrote...

KotorEffect3 wrote...

Heretic_Hanar wrote...

Thanks for the heads up OP.

Voted for Dishonored.

You are probably one of those people that goes to sports games wearing the road teams colors.

Nah, with sports I'm no different than with video-games, I wear the colors of the team that is the best or deserves the support the most.

So you are a fair weather fan that roots for the bandwagon teams?

No, that must be you. I root for the underdog team (Dishonored) that in this case deserves more praise than the bandwagon team (Mass Effect 3).

Modifié par Heretic_Hanar, 18 décembre 2012 - 09:08 .

[The Heretic of Time]

Ghost1017 wrote...

Heretic_Hanar wrote...

Ghost1017 wrote...

ROFLMAO! By actual gamers it is not well received.

Define "actual gamers".

And please, while your at it, please show me your sources of your wild assumption that Dishonored is not well recieved by these "actual gamers" you're talking about.

I'm talking about CoD.

Than you misunderstood my the point I was making.

I used CoD as an example of a popular game that is higher-ranked and more popular than Mass Effect, yet is not a very good or unique game (though I have to say Black Ops 2 is better than Mass Effect 3).


Basically, my point is: popularity =/= quality

[Akruze]

Mass Effect is better then Dishonered. Both are good games, but Dishonered is a new franchise and has some refining to do before it can match up.
Also, I have to comment on opinions. Just because one doesn't like a game doesn't mean it's bad. Looking at things objectively isn't that hard and calling something bad just because you don't like it is ignorant and just plain stupid, and that is fact, not opinion.

[KotorEffect3]

Heretic_Hanar wrote...

KotorEffect3 wrote...

Heretic_Hanar wrote...

KotorEffect3 wrote...

Heretic_Hanar wrote...

Thanks for the heads up OP.

Voted for Dishonored.

You are probably one of those people that goes to sports games wearing the road teams colors.

Nah, with sports I'm no different than with video-games, I wear the colors of the team that is the best or deserves the support the most.

So you are a fair weather fan that roots for the bandwagon teams?

No, that must be you. I root for the underdog (Dishonored) that in this case deserves more praise than the bandwagon team (Mass Effect 3).

No I root for the home team.  If Dishonored is your team you should go to their stadium (their forum) and stop wearing your dishonored jersey in our stadium.

[The Heretic of Time]

KotorEffect3 wrote...

Heretic_Hanar wrote...

KotorEffect3 wrote...

Heretic_Hanar wrote...

KotorEffect3 wrote...

Heretic_Hanar wrote...

Thanks for the heads up OP.

Voted for Dishonored.

You are probably one of those people that goes to sports games wearing the road teams colors.

Nah, with sports I'm no different than with video-games, I wear the colors of the team that is the best or deserves the support the most.

So you are a fair weather fan that roots for the bandwagon teams?

No, that must be you. I root for the underdog (Dishonored) that in this case deserves more praise than the bandwagon team (Mass Effect 3).

No I root for the home team.  If Dishonored is your team you should go to their stadium (their forum) and stop wearing your dishonored jersey in our stadium.

I get it, you're a fanboy and I'm not. That does not give you more right to post here than me though.

[Ghost]

Heretic_Hanar wrote...

Ghost1017 wrote...

Heretic_Hanar wrote...

Ghost1017 wrote...

ROFLMAO! By actual gamers it is not well received.

Define "actual gamers".

And please, while your at it, please show me your sources of your wild assumption that Dishonored is not well recieved by these "actual gamers" you're talking about.

I'm talking about CoD.

Than you misunderstood my the point I was making.

I used CoD as an example of a popular game that is higher-ranked and more popular than Mass Effect, yet is not a very good or unique game (though I have to say Black Ops 2 is better than Mass Effect 3).


Basically, my point is: popularity =/= quality

Black Ops 2 is not higher ranked but is more popular. I'll take ME3 over that copy/paste bs that is known as CoD.

[Ghost]

Akruze wrote...

Mass Effect is better then Dishonered. Both are good games, but Dishonered is a new franchise and has some refining to do before it can match up.
Also, I have to comment on opinions. Just because one doesn't like a game doesn't mean it's bad. Looking at things objectively isn't that hard and calling something bad just because you don't like it is ignorant and just plain stupid, and that is fact, not opinion.

This. 

[The Heretic of Time]

Ghost1017 wrote...

Heretic_Hanar wrote...

Ghost1017 wrote...

Heretic_Hanar wrote...

Ghost1017 wrote...

ROFLMAO! By actual gamers it is not well received.

Define "actual gamers".

And please, while your at it, please show me your sources of your wild assumption that Dishonored is not well recieved by these "actual gamers" you're talking about.

I'm talking about CoD.

Than you misunderstood my the point I was making.

I used CoD as an example of a popular game that is higher-ranked and more popular than Mass Effect, yet is not a very good or unique game (though I have to say Black Ops 2 is better than Mass Effect 3).


Basically, my point is: popularity =/= quality

Black Ops 2 is not higher ranked but is more popular. I'll take ME3 over that copy/paste bs that is known as CoD.

Except Black Ops 2 isn't copy-paste and ironically it implements choices & consequences better than Mass Effect. It's quite a sad world we live in, where linear shooters have more chocies + actual consequences than RPGs. Quite a sad world indeed.

But to each their own. I'm not a particular fan of Call of Duty, but I respect what they tried to do with Black Ops 2. At least Black Ops 2 is an improvement over Black Ops 1. The same can't be said about Mass Effect 3 and Mass Effect 2 really.

[KotorEffect3]

Heretic_Hanar wrote...

KotorEffect3 wrote...

Heretic_Hanar wrote...

KotorEffect3 wrote...

Heretic_Hanar wrote...

KotorEffect3 wrote...

Heretic_Hanar wrote...

Thanks for the heads up OP.

Voted for Dishonored.

You are probably one of those people that goes to sports games wearing the road teams colors.

Nah, with sports I'm no different than with video-games, I wear the colors of the team that is the best or deserves the support the most.

So you are a fair weather fan that roots for the bandwagon teams?

No, that must be you. I root for the underdog (Dishonored) that in this case deserves more praise than the bandwagon team (Mass Effect 3).

No I root for the home team.  If Dishonored is your team you should go to their stadium (their forum) and stop wearing your dishonored jersey in our stadium.

I get it, you're a fanboy and I'm not. That does not give you more right to post here than me though.

You'll eventualy turn against that franchise as well.  Betrayal is in your nature.

[The Heretic of Time]

KotorEffect3 wrote...

Heretic_Hanar wrote...

KotorEffect3 wrote...

Heretic_Hanar wrote...

KotorEffect3 wrote...

Heretic_Hanar wrote...

KotorEffect3 wrote...

Heretic_Hanar wrote...

Thanks for the heads up OP.

Voted for Dishonored.

You are probably one of those people that goes to sports games wearing the road teams colors.

Nah, with sports I'm no different than with video-games, I wear the colors of the team that is the best or deserves the support the most.

So you are a fair weather fan that roots for the bandwagon teams?

No, that must be you. I root for the underdog (Dishonored) that in this case deserves more praise than the bandwagon team (Mass Effect 3).

No I root for the home team.  If Dishonored is your team you should go to their stadium (their forum) and stop wearing your dishonored jersey in our stadium.

I get it, you're a fanboy and I'm not. That does not give you more right to post here than me though.

You'll eventualy turn against that franchise as well.  Betrayal is in your nature.

"Betrayal"? HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Oh please, stop being such a melodramatic fanboy and get real. Mass Effect 3 is just a game you know. 

Modifié par Heretic_Hanar, 18 décembre 2012 - 09:16 .

[KotorEffect3]

Heretic_Hanar wrote...

KotorEffect3 wrote...

Heretic_Hanar wrote...

KotorEffect3 wrote...

Heretic_Hanar wrote...

KotorEffect3 wrote...

Heretic_Hanar wrote...

KotorEffect3 wrote...

Heretic_Hanar wrote...

Thanks for the heads up OP.

Voted for Dishonored.

You are probably one of those people that goes to sports games wearing the road teams colors.

Nah, with sports I'm no different than with video-games, I wear the colors of the team that is the best or deserves the support the most.

So you are a fair weather fan that roots for the bandwagon teams?

No, that must be you. I root for the underdog (Dishonored) that in this case deserves more praise than the bandwagon team (Mass Effect 3).

No I root for the home team.  If Dishonored is your team you should go to their stadium (their forum) and stop wearing your dishonored jersey in our stadium.

I get it, you're a fanboy and I'm not. That does not give you more right to post here than me though.

You'll eventualy turn against that franchise as well.  Betrayal is in your nature.

"Betrayal"? Hahahahaha! Please, stop being such a melodramatic fanboy and get real. Mass Effect 3 is just a game you know. 

Melodramatic me?  never

[The Heretic of Time]

KotorEffect3 wrote...

Heretic_Hanar wrote...

KotorEffect3 wrote...

You'll eventualy turn against that franchise as well.  Betrayal is in your nature.

"Betrayal"? Hahahahaha! Please, stop being such a melodramatic fanboy and get real. Mass Effect 3 is just a game you know. 

Melodramatic me?  never

Oh please.

[AtreiyaN7]

I liked Dishonored and thought it was pretty good (if short), but it didn't exactly wow me like I had expected based on what's been said about it. Dishonored also didn't generate the degree of emotional response I got from ME3 either. I felt no actual connection to Corso, but I vaguely liked Emily I suppose. That was basically it as far as how I felt about any of the characters.

My vote definitely went to ME3, although I'd certainly play future Dishonored games.

[Hekzurreed]

Heretic_Hanar wrote...

KotorEffect3 wrote...

Heretic_Hanar wrote...

KotorEffect3 wrote...

Heretic_Hanar wrote...

KotorEffect3 wrote...

Heretic_Hanar wrote...

Thanks for the heads up OP.

Voted for Dishonored.

You are probably one of those people that goes to sports games wearing the road teams colors.

Nah, with sports I'm no different than with video-games, I wear the colors of the team that is the best or deserves the support the most.

So you are a fair weather fan that roots for the bandwagon teams?

No, that must be you. I root for the underdog (Dishonored) that in this case deserves more praise than the bandwagon team (Mass Effect 3).

No I root for the home team.  If Dishonored is your team you should go to their stadium (their forum) and stop wearing your dishonored jersey in our stadium.

I get it, you're a fanboy and I'm not. That does not give you more right to post here than me though.

Every game has their flaws, mass effect 3 does too, but mass effect 3 (also mass effect trilogy in general) had some sparks which made the game (games) amazing to play which few games have today, and Dishonored is not one of them (I am not saying Dishonored is bad, its a very good game). Otherwise I have little hope for gaming industry today as EA and Activision destroys our games.

Modifié par Hekzurreed, 18 décembre 2012 - 10:07 .

[Maria Caliban]

Dishonored got my vote.

[Athro]

Dishonored is a better game because it is much more subtle. It has multiple endings that are influenced by actions you take through out the game. While it seems to have two endings, those endings are altered into a much wider variety of variations.

But what impressed me most about Dishonored is that missions change with each playthrough. Certain missions like the assassination at the party have their clues and targets randomly assigned each playthrough - so they never play out the same twice.

As for the ending - the quality of a game is not a mathematics undertaking. Even if only 1% of the game is bad, it depends on what that 1% is.

To put it this way... if you make a cake and 1% of it contains a toxic poison... it's still a ruined cake. The same goes for a story. If the ending of the story makes no sense and is poorly executed... that's what you take away from the experience. Forget the 99% of the game you enjoyed... it will be that sour experience that you remember most. And if all the rest is truly incredible, it makes that ending all the more sour because you *know* that the ending could have been better.

That's the situation with Mass Effect 3. (Although I'd argue that it's more like 80% good, 20% bad. I mean, come on. Kai f***ing Leng. There were other things they did wrong than just the ending. I'd say the opening was trite, the kid in the dream was a serious mis-step. The handling of Cerberus was laughably bad... the Thessia mission was a low point. It's the middle of the game and the Multiplayer along with the actual gameplay that really shone for me.)

On the other hand - Dishonored didn't take a step wrong for me. Slick as gameplay, a consistent storyline, a lot of variety and the endings that really felt like the game took my actions into account every step of the way.

Easy pick for me.

[The Heretic of Time]

Hekzurreed wrote...

Every game has their flaws, mass effect 3 does too, but mass effect 3 (also mass effect trilogy in general) had some sparks which made the game (games) amazing to play which few games have today, and Dishonored is not one of them (I am not saying Dishonored is bad, its a very good game). Otherwise I have little hope for gaming industry today as EA and Activision destroys our games.

I guess I can mostly agree with all of this, except that in my opinion Dishonored is by far better than Mass Effect 3.

Modifié par Heretic_Hanar, 18 décembre 2012 - 10:38 .

[someguy1231]

Dishonored got my vote. People who claim ME3 deserve it solely because it's more "epic" are missing the point. A game shouldn't be judged by what it tries to be but by how well it does what it's supposed to do. Dishonored clearly delivered on what it promised. The same can't be said of ME3.

[FlamingBoy]

dreman9999 wrote...

Heretic_Hanar wrote...

Memmahkth wrote...

I fail to see how you can go through a game loving it, only to hate it because of the ending.

I agree. It's rather silly to think the ending is the only bad part of the ME3. The entire game is full of sh*t from start to finish. It's not just the ending that is wrong with ME3. The prologue, Crucible ass-pull, Derperus Sith Empire, Kai Leng derp, Udina derp and stupid derpy dreams about that little brat are also rather cringe-worthy, to say the least.

General consensus is that the mass majority of ME3 is well liked. This is the reason ME3 is ahead of Dishonored in votes.

but like a .5 percent, its actually kind of embarassing for me3 considering that if the game was better it could have used its reputation to crush the competition

[KBomb]

Maria Caliban wrote...

Dishonored got my vote.

[Sarah_SR2]

Heretic_Hanar wrote...

Memmahkth wrote...

I fail to see how you can go through a game loving it, only to hate it because of the ending.

I agree. It's rather silly to think the ending is the only bad part of the ME3. The entire game is full of sh*t from start to finish. It's not just the ending that is wrong with ME3. The prologue, Crucible ass-pull, Derperus Sith Empire, Kai Leng derp, Udina derp and stupid derpy dreams about that little brat are also rather cringe-worthy, to say the least.

You can't stand the game and that's your choice. But I just cannot fathom out why if you dislike it so much you actually carried on playing it to the end. If I don't like a game I just put it down and never play it again. I've played Dishonored and ME3 is just as good imo.

[The Heretic of Time]

Sarah_SR2 wrote...

Heretic_Hanar wrote...

Memmahkth wrote...

I fail to see how you can go through a game loving it, only to hate it because of the ending.

I agree. It's rather silly to think the ending is the only bad part of the ME3. The entire game is full of sh*t from start to finish. It's not just the ending that is wrong with ME3. The prologue, Crucible ass-pull, Derperus Sith Empire, Kai Leng derp, Udina derp and stupid derpy dreams about that little brat are also rather cringe-worthy, to say the least.

You can't stand the game and that's your choice. But I just cannot fathom out why if you dislike it so much you actually carried on playing it to the end. If I don't like a game I just put it down and never play it again. I've played Dishonored and ME3 is just as good imo.

As a (former) hardcore Mass Effect fan I thought I owed it to myself and BioWare to play through ME3 at least once. That's exactly what I did. I actually enjoyed the shooting, the voice acting, the music and most of the environments, but the story and presentation was just terribad.

ME3 could have been great if it wasn't written by a bunch of proffesional fan-fic writers.

[Hurbster]

Your actions in Dishonored actually affect the ending in a meaningful way, unlike in ME3 - so thats what decided it for me.

[N7 Shadow 90]

I personally found the endings of Dishonored, a lot more disappointing than ME3's.