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[RogueBot]

dreman9999 wrote...

If someone steals you sperm and uses it to make a child...Is it rape?

Is it rape? No, it's just Liara. Liara's gonna Liara.

[Yuqi]

inb4 shi*storm.

[ZeCollectorDestroya]

^You're WAAAAY too late.

Idea is horrible! I'm a liaramancer (works for me), but this doesn't suit anyone else. Not to mention that you're trying to explain sperm stealing (In this case, "mind sex.") and a relationship to nerds who watch internet you- know-what every night.

People on BSN are too immature and stupid to understand your intentions.

Really, the idea doesn't work with anyone. Imagine Garrus did this, I will lose respect for him. Imagine if Tali did this? I would ****** over her dead skeleton on Rannoch. What about the VS? You have to be insaiyan to like the VS anyway.

[shodiswe]

dreman9999 wrote...

Wulfram wrote...

If she is Shepard's daughter with Liara, why would there be any ambiguity?

Seems silly all round, really. And the Liara raped Shepard idiocy doesn't need any reinforcement.

1. It's not rape. Rape is something sexual.
This would be call someone stealing your sperm to make a baby a rapest.

2.It would have ambiguity because the player can turn down the gift.

Stealing sperm does sound a little bit like "rape".. If accomplished without some kind of consent.  Unless somone had put it in a freezer and they stole it from the freezer... Then it would be more like creepy theft

Modifié par shodiswe, 18 décembre 2012 - 08:57 .

[shodiswe]

Anyway... The Asari might not even know who the mother was... Then one day some mercs rushed in and killed the guardian of the child and in her dyng breath revealed that she might be a child of Shepard.. At least that's what the guardian claimed before dying, with no further proof and no idea of who the mother was.
The young Asari is then "inspired" by this claim, true or not, didn't even know her mother... But join a military, trains hard, seeks further challenges, might even apply for the alliance N7 since that feelt like a natural way of "exploring" her herritage..

The fact that it doesn't have to be true makes it interesting. It should also be impossible to prove unless you got a Liara romance flag in an imported game.

It also depends if control is used in the next game, then some semblance of Shepards memories would still be around... Even if it might not be that easy to get the citadels attention.

[Little Princess Peach]

I want the next pc to have no connections to shepard at all, I love shepardo but really I would like to see new blood, gosh flanterns new blood :0

[KiwiQuiche]

The many adopted Krogan sons and daughters Shepard and her Garbear had wouldn't be impressed with such a claim.

[Demonique]

dreman9999 wrote...

Demonique wrote...

 I'd want T'Soni thrown in jail for rape

If someone steals you sperm and uses it to make a child...Is it rape?

The way Asari do it? Yes, it is rape since it involves physical intimacy. Embracing eternity with Shepard without telling Shepard that she intends to conceive a child would count as rape

[EnvyTB075]

Pissed off if its biological.

[Syokhan]

ValintineL wrote...

I wouldn't like this. I would prefer if the next Mass Effect is in the future Shepard is mentioned but not a driving aspect. Too many plot land mines and I would prefer it if we moved on to new things.

This sums up how I feel as well. Let Shepard rest, his/her story is done. If ME4 turns out to be a sequel, just let Shep be a distant story, I don't want the PC or any of the PC's allies to have any connection to Shepard at all. New blood, please.
Also, ambiguity? Do not want.

Modifié par Syokhan, 18 décembre 2012 - 10:22 .

[Gethrian]

I could only except it as cameo. We could see Liara with her daughter if Shepard romanced her. Or that she was adopted by Shepard and Garrus. And if this story arc was in game then truth should come out on whatever she is Shepards daughter or not. Again I would only except her as Shepard child if she was Shepards and Liaras daughter or that she was adopted. Otherwise I won't like it.

Modifié par DarkZexy, 18 décembre 2012 - 10:45 .

[AsheraII]

Wulfram wrote...

If she is Shepard's daughter with Liara, why would there be any ambiguity?

Seems silly all round, really. And the Liara raped Shepard idiocy doesn't need any reinforcement.

Could also be Shepards daughter with the Consort for people with the right playthrough.

I'd say.. Let it depend on the import people bring into their game.

[Zazzerka]

No. Please, please no.

[Falaxe]

It is way more likely that shepard has a love child with shaira than liara...

[ZeCollectorDestroya]

^Holy ****...never thought about that.

So Shepard has mind melded with Sha'ira (Optional) Shiala and Liara.

Is this going to turn into Episode IV? Where Luke has a crush on his Sister while he is not aware that he and him are related?

[DirtySHISN0]

please god let it be shiala's child.


Green Asari protaganist as an option for player character in ME4? I'm in.

It doesn't even have to have shepard as the father species, just implied relation that we never find the answer to.

Modifié par DirtySHISN0, 18 décembre 2012 - 12:34 .

[andy6915]

Is this on the idea of the next game will have an Asari main character? I wouldn't mind, but classes would be a problem. All Asari are biotic, so it would force you to be one of the three biotic classes, with infiltrator and engineer and soldier gone.

[Dubozz]

Ledgend1221 wrote...

"Silly asari, Shepard was a human."
"But asr...."
"HUMANITY FIRST ****!"

[Dean_the_Young]

andy69156915 wrote...

Is this on the idea of the next game will have an Asari main character? I wouldn't mind, but classes would be a problem. All Asari are biotic, so it would force you to be one of the three biotic classes, with infiltrator and engineer and soldier gone.

The Asari would not be the Main Character. She wouldn't necessarily be a combat NPC at all: she could, in which case she'd be an obvious biotic class, but she could also be a non-combat NPC with plot signficance. Something like Traynor or Steve, who had plot arcs and development outside of their immediate role on the ship.

[aTrueFool]

Demonique wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

Demonique wrote...

 I'd want T'Soni thrown in jail for rape

If someone steals you sperm and uses it to make a child...Is it rape?

The way Asari do it? Yes, it is rape since it involves physical intimacy. Embracing eternity with Shepard without telling Shepard that she intends to conceive a child would count as rape

Wait. If a human man has sex with a human woman who wants to get pregnant but doesn't tell the man and the woman conceives a child she's a rapist?

[Dean_the_Young]

shodiswe wrote...

Anyway... The Asari might not even know who the mother was... Then one day some mercs rushed in and killed the guardian of the child and in her dyng breath revealed that she might be a child of Shepard.. At least that's what the guardian claimed before dying, with no further proof and no idea of who the mother was.
The young Asari is then "inspired" by this claim, true or not, didn't even know her mother... But join a military, trains hard, seeks further challenges, might even apply for the alliance N7 since that feelt like a natural way of "exploring" her herritage..

It could have more basis that that, even: some token or momento that really was Shepard's. Something like Shepard's dog tags could be considered circumstantial support: not proof, since there are other ways to get them no doubt, but something that offers credibility to the claim.

The fact that it doesn't have to be true makes it interesting. It should also be impossible to prove unless you got a Liara romance flag in an imported game.

Even then: if you avoid establishing that she's Liara daughter, but leave it open to interpretation, you leave the fans to bicker debate the issue and compare/contrast their own views and reasons.

It also depends if control is used in the next game, then some semblance of Shepards memories would still be around... Even if it might not be that easy to get the citadels attention.

It'd amuse me, but bug some to no end (hence my amusement) if the Shepalyst said some variation of 'I can't prove or disprove it either.'

[Dean_the_Young]

Ieldra2 wrote...

This is my first reaction to the idea:



Note that this is a purely emotional, knee-jerk reaction. In-world, I see it could be plausible, but I hate the idea as a story hook. You did ask how people *feel* about it.

This is the funniest, and my favorite, disagreement in the thread.

(some time later):
The reason why I hate it is this plot is built on the human intuition that whose child you are is somehow intrinsically important, that being the child of someone special makes you special, too. The appropriate reaction to such a revelation should be "so what?"

That was the intent about the 'tell her to get over it' resolution: it's not simply discouraging her from identifying with Shepard, but making just that point. Being Shepard's child (or not) wouldn't make her special: being special in her own right would, and to do that she should leave behind the baggage of assoication.

[Aurora313]

Hate Liara, hate the Asari in general with the sole exceptions of Samara, Rila and Falare. Thessia's fall served em right.

If the protagonist of the next game was an asari claiming to be the descendant of Shepard and disregarded every other human/turian/Quarrian romance in the game?

Would literally feel too much outrage and comtempt for words.

Modifié par Aurora313, 18 décembre 2012 - 02:04 .

[Kia Purity]

Get out.

[Vexille]

Impossible, Shepard's genes are so badass that any female who coupled with Shepard would give birth to a human shepbaby