sH0tgUn jUliA wrote...
AlanC9 wrote...
Usually it's a good idea to read a post if you're quoting it, guys.
It is not an in game canon. It is the twitter canon. I just watched the refuse ending on Youtube. It doesn't mention that they used the crucible. That is someone's head canon.
I did, you're saying they didn't fight a war. Which isn't entirly accurate, what they said is that they "didn't have to fight a terrible war", which doesn't mean the next cycle didn't fight, just that the war wasn't very devestating since they were prepared for it. You're are trying to use this suggest that this statement is proof the next cycle used the crucible. Again there's no garuntee they did, they could have used the advanced warning to develop different a weapon since they didn't sit around on their asses till the last minute like our cycle did. They never said they won because they used the Crucible.Our_Last_Scene wrote...
Which means you never read my post that you quoted.
Our_Last_Scene wrote...
sH0tgUn jUliA wrote...
AlanC9 wrote...
Usually it's a good idea to read a post if you're quoting it, guys.
It is not an in game canon. It is the twitter canon. I just watched the refuse ending on Youtube. It doesn't mention that they used the crucible. That is someone's head canon.
Twitter canon means head canon to you?
What does heads have to do with Twitter?
Neizd wrote...
Good topic. Refuse is the best choice if you consider ME3 to be RPG-game.
In RPG you are playing character while "being him". With this knowledge in mind you should look at the choices from Shepard's point of view.
1. Shepard does NOT know if the catalyst is telling the truth or no. All he gets is the possibility to toss a coin and choose one of three choices that may as well doom everyone.
2. Shepard worked really hard for YEARS to achieve the victory. He assembled squad, cheated death, tried to help everyone and convince them that the Reapers threat is true. He gathered allies in ME3 so the question is: "Does he trusts in his own hard work?"
In short: By refusing shepard is not choosing to do nothing. He simply chooses to believe in his own hard work, in his allies and that it is enough to win the war with the Reapers. He again chooses to toss a coin to get a small chance of victory, but by doing so, this time he also chooses to trust in others and has the thing called "hope".
spirosz wrote...
Refuse
Yes, she says that, but also about the information, so either the crucible, or whatever else Liara put in the beacon, so in a sense, that equals victory.
I DO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!The Spamming Troll wrote...
vigil said a united galaxy can beat the reapers.
so why loose hope because udina, or some idiot NPC says we cant beat the reapers.
ive said this a million times, and ill say it again. who doesnt love an underdog story???
Modifié par Jade8aby88, 18 décembre 2012 - 08:32 .
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Jade8aby88 wrote...
Damn, I shouldn't have posted this just before I had to leave, too much to reply to and frankly, some of these posters don't even deserve a response...
So I'll just say this.Neizd wrote...
Good topic. Refuse is the best choice if you consider ME3 to be RPG-game.
In RPG you are playing character while "being him". With this knowledge in mind you should look at the choices from Shepard's point of view.
1. Shepard does NOT know if the catalyst is telling the truth or no. All he gets is the possibility to toss a coin and choose one of three choices that may as well doom everyone.
2. Shepard worked really hard for YEARS to achieve the victory. He assembled squad, cheated death, tried to help everyone and convince them that the Reapers threat is true. He gathered allies in ME3 so the question is: "Does he trusts in his own hard work?"
In short: By refusing shepard is not choosing to do nothing. He simply chooses to believe in his own hard work, in his allies and that it is enough to win the war with the Reapers. He again chooses to toss a coin to get a small chance of victory, but by doing so, this time he also chooses to trust in others and has the thing called "hope".
Thank you to:
TheProtheans
Bill Casey,
Nimrodell,
Angry Frozen Water,
Shotgun Julia,
AresKeith
All your posts brightened up my day, as you all at least have the empathy enough to understand the choice even if you don't accept it.spirosz wrote...
Refuse
Yes, she says that, but also about the information, so either the crucible, or whatever else Liara put in the beacon, so in a sense, that equals victory.
- "We built the Crucible, but it did not work."
- Next cycle goes and uses Crucible.
- Seems legit.I DO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!The Spamming Troll wrote...
vigil said a united galaxy can beat the reapers.
so why loose hope because udina, or some idiot NPC says we cant beat the reapers.
ive said this a million times, and ill say it again. who doesnt love an underdog story???
Modifié par BringBackNihlus, 18 décembre 2012 - 04:05 .
Greylycantrope wrote...
I did, you're saying they didn't fight a war. Which isn't entirly accurate, what they said is that they "didn't have to fight a terrible war", which doesn't mean the next cycle didn't fight, just that the war wasn't very devestating since they were prepared for it. You're are trying to use this suggest that this statement is proof the next cycle used the crucible. Again there's no garuntee they did, they could have used the advanced warning to develop different a weapon since they didn't sit around on their asses till the last minute like our cycle did. They never said they won because they used the Crucible.Our_Last_Scene wrote...
Which means you never read my post that you quoted.
Modifié par Jade8aby88, 18 décembre 2012 - 05:10 .
Modifié par grey_wind, 18 décembre 2012 - 04:28 .
Modifié par sH0tgUn jUliA, 18 décembre 2012 - 06:35 .
grey_wind wrote...
Refuse is the only ending that guarnatess Admiral Steven Hackett's death. If I must doom the entire galaxy to kill him, I will. Natural selection demands that something as appallingly idiotic and incompetent as Hackett (and his kin) must never be allowed to pass on its genes to future generations.
David7204 wrote...
And what exactly is it that Hackett does that is so 'idiotic'?
Modifié par David7204, 18 décembre 2012 - 04:45 .
I had no idea sarcasm was incomprehensible.David7204 wrote...
The first complaint is petty and stupid. Pretty much every RPG in existence features a threat that can be held off in favor of doing sidequests. Sidequests that the BSN has been constantly and continually requesting, need I remind you.
Modifié par grey_wind, 18 décembre 2012 - 04:46 .
TheBlackBaron wrote...
Yes it is.
Refuse is the coward's way out. You're not fighting for freedom. You're not fighting for "what you believe is right". You're letting every advanced sentient being in the galaxy die because you're crying about compromising your precious morals.
Shoot the damn tube and be done with it.
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TheBlackBaron wrote...
Yes it is.
Refuse is the coward's way out. You're not fighting for freedom. You're not fighting for "what you believe is right". You're letting every advanced sentient being in the galaxy die because you're crying about compromising your precious morals.
Shoot the damn tube and be done with it.
sH0tgUn jUliA wrote...
There is no mention of them using the crucible or anything like that. That was done via Gamble on Twitter. That is what everyone is mentioning. Thus Gamble's head canon is "they used the crucible." Well that would imply they found the archives early on in the cycle built the thing, attached it to the Citadel and fired it while the reapers were in dark space.
The next cycle win without war, implying they used some sort of superweapon, most likely the Crucible as it's the most advanced one in history and is sitting there ready to be built.
Modifié par AlanC9, 18 décembre 2012 - 05:49 .
grey_wind wrote...
I had no idea sarcasm was incomprehensible.
Does that make me a Reaper?
Modifié par DoomsdayDevice, 18 décembre 2012 - 05:54 .
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