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[gohan661]

Because Acolyte is in handgun slot and saber is in AR I like these two guns on my batarian solider

[jlee375]

It doesn't always have to be about stats...sometimes I use a weapon because I like how it fits lore-wise or whatnot. I love both guns, though the paladin is more accurate, at least for me. It does however preclude taking the acolyte, which is a large drawback.

But the sound is nice and it has a larger clip size.

[GordianKnot42]

Magazine size: big DPS difference between 3 shots and 8 shots. And for me personally, I find it a lot easier to land headshots with the Saber than the Paladin without a scope.

Oh, and the Saber sound is cooler.

[Sable Dove]

Better question:
Why do people think the Paladin is good?
I always see people compare the Saber to the Paladin. Why not compare to the Arc Pistol, which is better than the Paladin, and is only Rare?

[oXTheReverendXo]

I agree that--for whatever reason--the Saber seems more accurate. Also, I like the extended mag, even if the reload on the Paladin isn't too bad. I like both guns, but if class/weight wasn't an issue, I'd pick the Saber every time.

[SPAC3G0ST]

i think what the OP really meant was why is there so much hype around the Saber. on the basis of even comparing it to the Paladin, which is a weapon that is known to be good, that would automatically make the Saber a good weapon.

[lightswitch]

wolfstanus wrote...

One thing that has and continues to trouble me in games is.
Semi auto doesn't an assault rifle make.
That's all that bothers me about this weapon.

Saber is more of a Battle Rifle. Sort of a Mass Effect equivelant to the M14.

[DeadeyeCYclops]

yup since no classes get a pistol dmg bonus, that has some parts to do with it, coupled with DAT SOUND and the clip size, and the fact that i have had saber x for months while my paladin just hit rank 6 or 7 the other day.... and for some people this game isn't just about numbers

Modifié par DeadeyeCYclops78, 17 décembre 2012 - 11:42 .

[ArcaptSSX]

The main reason is mostly the clip, though comparing 3 to 8 always seems weird to me. I think it's fair to compare Paladin+ext. barrel (or HVB)+mag vs Saber+ext. barrel+stability. Or even mag mod for Saber if you take the stability consumable. but having 14 shots rather than 8 doesn't feel as much as 5 vs 3.

The Saber does feels rather unimpressive at similar level compared to a Paladin, but the Acolyte is a major argument in faver of the former, as long as no other light weapon can fill its role(SMG ideally).

[tutzdes]

I love the mag size, thermal scope, sound and the fact you can use both Saber + Acolyte or Scorpion. Paladin+Falcon is much worse.

[DSxCallOfBooty-]

cowwy wrote...
The only thing that the Saber has over the Paladin is a bigger clip size (and more spare ammo), and even that doesn't matter so much because the Paladin's reload time isn't long at all.

Because of it's higher clip size, it works out so that the Saber has a higher sustained DPS.  Thanks to right-hand-advantage, it will do more damage under sustained fire than the Paladin.

It also sounds much better.

On the whole though, Paladin > Saber.  But, the difference between the two isn't tremendous, and the Saber lets you take advantage of certain Gears, for example the one that gives you AR damage and spare grenades. (If it exists, that is.  I don't have it, but I seem to remember someone mentioning it.)

[cowwy]

GordianKnot42 wrote...

Magazine size: big DPS difference between 3 shots and 8 shots. And for me personally, I find it a lot easier to land headshots with the Saber than the Paladin without a scope.

Oh, and the Saber sound is cooler.

Fire rate make more of a difference, hence the reason why the Paladin's DPS destroys the Saber's.

[ToLazy4Name]

Saber has alot more bullets per clip, meaning it's better from cover and for taking out multiple targets/bosses, and it doesn't punish someone who's inaccurate nearly as much as the Paladin does.

[Tarelgeth]

Because it's awesome. It may not be great, but it is awesome.

[Bonza99]

In my opinion all guns with in a synergy with other classes.

Strap and saber on a high DPS class with some stability or rate of fire advantage, e.g. TGI, GI, or on an infiltrator with debuff, e.g. SI, QMI, etc.

Watch that rate of fire chew stuff up. It can pretty much one clip an unshielded prime at level III.

You may argue the Paladin can do similar however don't forget the need to reload/reload cancel.

The Saber III, Harrier X and pre-nerf Typhoon I are my favorite AR's, I never bother with anything else unless I'm trying to apply ammo powers.

[Sable Dove]

cowwy wrote...

GordianKnot42 wrote...

Magazine size: big DPS difference between 3 shots and 8 shots. And for me personally, I find it a lot easier to land headshots with the Saber than the Paladin without a scope.

Oh, and the Saber sound is cooler.

Fire rate make more of a difference, hence the reason why the Paladin's DPS destroys the Saber's.

Only its Burst DPS, which is the least important DPS for any weapon with a magazine. Saber has higher sustained DPS, and higher accuracy. 

Burst DPS is only really significant for the CSR, PPR, and CSMG, or any weapon/class combo that can be fired indefinitely.

[enigmagtx]

I like the name and the power also looks kool

[cowwy]

mpompeo27 wrote...

Larger clip size, coolest sound of any gun in the game, and on my builds with no cooldowns I can then carry both a Saber and a Talon.

Also, nowhere in your argument OP do you actually provide evidence that the Saber is a bad gun. You only provide evidence that it's not as good as the Paladin, and "not as good as the Paladin" does not equal "not a good gun period".

Becuase nowhere in the OP did I intend to make the statement that the Saber is a bad gun, I'm saying that it's slightly inferior (due to the heavy weight) to the Paladin. From what I gather the common sentiment is that the extra magazine size is enough for people to use the Saber over the Paladin, but I think that the Saber needs a buff to justify the weight in my opinion.

Sable Dove wrote...

cowwy wrote...

GordianKnot42 wrote...

Magazine
size: big DPS difference between 3 shots and 8 shots. And for me
personally, I find it a lot easier to land headshots with the Saber than
the Paladin without a scope.

Oh, and the Saber sound is cooler.

Fire rate make more of a difference, hence the reason why the Paladin's DPS destroys the Saber's.

Only
its Burst DPS, which is the least important DPS for any weapon with a
magazine. Saber has higher sustained DPS, and higher accuracy. 

Burst DPS is only really significant for the CSR, PPR, and CSMG, or any weapon/class combo that can be fired indefinitely.

While the Saber does have a higher sustained DPS, I would say that the margin of difference between the two is so insignificant that it doesn't matter at all once you put mods on the guns, especially if you put on the Heavy Barrel, in which case the Paladin would outperform the Saber there as well, especially because the extra weight wouldn't be added to the Paladin due to that one weird glitch.

[Najarati]

DSxCallOfBooty- wrote...
...the Saber lets you take advantage of certain Gears, for example the one that gives you AR damage and spare grenades. (If it exists, that is.  I don't have it, but I seem to remember someone mentioning it.)

The grenade capacity + assault rifle damage would be the Warfighter Package.  There is also its shotgun counterpart:  Shock Trooper Upgrade.

Personally, I prefer the Sabre due to its larger magazine size, especially if you go with the Magazine Upgrade with Extended Barrel and AP rounds.  The MQM handles this weapon quite well.  Oh, and Sabre's report sounds awesome.

TLDR;  Because dat mag size and dat sound.

[lightswitch]

It would be amazing if they gave it a more significant buff. I'd rather have a higher base rate of fire than more damage. Heh, could you imagine it with Marksman if the base RoF was already decent enough to use on bosses? That would be boss.

[solidprice]

mpompeo27 wrote...

Larger clip size, coolest sound of any gun in the game, and on my builds with no cooldowns I can then carry both a Saber and a Talon.

Also, nowhere in your argument OP do you actually provide evidence that the Saber is a bad gun. You only provide evidence that it's not as good as the Paladin, and "not as good as the Paladin" does not equal "not a good gun period".

this^^^

and to beat a dead horse:

Shampoohorn wrote...

stefbomb wrote...

Dat Saber sound....

[heybigmoney]

I prefer the arc pistol over both.

[joker_jack]

Because the saber is secretly a better sniper rifle than most sniper rifles.