199 réponses à ce sujet

[GordianKnot42]

cowwy wrote...

GordianKnot42 wrote...

Magazine size: big DPS difference between 3 shots and 8 shots. And for me personally, I find it a lot easier to land headshots with the Saber than the Paladin without a scope.

Oh, and the Saber sound is cooler.

Fire rate make more of a difference, hence the reason why the Paladin's DPS destroys the Saber's.

Yeah, but since I usually miss 2 out of every 3 shots, I get better DPS with the Saber. 

[Badpanzer]

Im not sure these weapons are really comparable...the Paladin is a low weight sniper pistol that allows casters to use a ranged weapon whereas the Sabre is a battle rifle and to heavy for most casters to use.
Personally i dont like the sabre as it fires to slowly so I use the Harrier instead and on my casters I use the talon or the Acolyte.
The Sabre has a good mag size and a cool sound but thats it,basically its less powerful than the Talon and could use a buff.

[FlowCytometry]

Well, some kits have AR-exclusive benefits, like the TGI. Also, larger clip means you visit ammo crates less if you use it as a main weapon, and not using a Paladin means you can use a sidearm like a Talon, Scorp, or Acolyte. Pistols are more diverse than ARs, so having more freedom of choosing one is a plus in my book.

Ofc, some people may have the Saber at a higher level too.

Modifié par FlowCytometry, 18 décembre 2012 - 02:10 .

[Eelectrica]

Needs innate armour piercing.

[iOnlySignIn]

joker_jack wrote...

Because the saber is secretly a better sniper rifle than most sniper rifles.

Indeed. That makes it almost useless, instead of completely useless.

[hotpocketgimme]

because you can't carry a paladin *and* an acolyte?

[UWxMaserati]

The Saber X is glorious on a TSol. No real recoil. Headshot bonus. Marksman ROF increase and the clips are so big I don't ever have to reload because I can autoload by hitting the Marksman again.

One of my favorites

[Titus Thongger]

I love the way the saber looks and sounds. I only use it on the TGI though (inb4l2playnoob) because imo the harrier on the TGI is a little cheese

[wolfstanus]

lightswitch wrote...

wolfstanus wrote...

One thing that has and continues to trouble me in games is.
Semi auto doesn't an assault rifle make.
That's all that bothers me about this weapon.

Saber is more of a Battle Rifle. Sort of a Mass Effect equivelant to the M14.

Exactly *anderson face*

[Asebstos]

heybigmoney wrote...

I prefer the arc pistol over both.

Arc pistol is fairly fantastic, especially since it can one-shot shielded mooks with the right consumables.

[DullahansXMark]

ThatOddGuy wrote...

The stats sheet actually doesn't mention RPM with reload cancelling)

Javikdammit, Cyonan is useless.

[Titus Thongger]

iOnlySignIn wrote...

joker_jack wrote...

Because the saber is secretly a better sniper rifle than most sniper rifles.

Indeed. That makes it almost useless, instead of completely useless.

wut

[cowwy]

Asebstos wrote...

heybigmoney wrote...

I prefer the arc pistol over both.

Arc pistol is fairly fantastic, especially since it can one-shot shielded mooks with the right consumables.

I had completely written off the arc pistol because of how terrible it used to be, maybe I need to try it again but that sound it makes just drives me crazy.

[cowwy]

Lord_Sirian wrote...

Because I've seen Jay use it.

But he's a robot so your argument is invalid.

I am curious to see that video he said he'd post a few pages back.

[OniGanon]

The Saber's larger clip is cancelled by the Paladin's higher ROF, faster reload and access to Heavy Barrel. Saber does not have any real DPS advantage.

Unless you're using a TGI, or a class with a power that really takes advantage of that larger clip (eg: Marksman, Adrenaline Rush), there's no real reason to take the Saber beyond the aesthetic. You'd be better off with a Paladin, Arc Pistol, Valiant or Crusader.

[Titus Thongger]

OniGanon wrote...

The Saber's larger clip is cancelled by the Paladin's higher ROF, faster reload and access to Heavy Barrel. Saber does not have any real DPS advantage.

Unless you're using a TGI, or a class with a power that really takes advantage of that larger clip (eg: Marksman, Adrenaline Rush), there's no real reason to take the Saber beyond the aesthetic. You'd be better off with a Paladin, Arc Pistol, Valiant or Crusader.

this hurts me

but I'm a aesthetic kinda guy. probably the reason why I love the female quarians.

[EricS86]

Beerfish wrote...

I took it out for a spin with my
batarian on silver yesterday and got kick votes after the match as a
result. It was far worse than I remember last time I used it. (I
scored well enough with it but I assume I got kick votes for not
reviving the guy right in front of me because I was trying to kill the
dragoon with melee because the sabre was not hitting much.) Just not a
good weapon for me unless I can incapacitate the enemy with something
like stasis or overload or cryo blast.

It's just you, I can hit things very reliably without any sort of stunning power, at both short and long ranges. Keep practicing. With a clip that large, one or two misses isn't a huge deal.

wolfstanus wrote...

One thing that has and continues to trouble me in games is.
Semi auto doesn't an assault rifle make.
That's all that bothers me about this weapon.

There are assault rifles that are semi-auto only. Even ones that have full-auto and burst fire modes are mostly used in semi-auto mode to conserve ammo, especially at longer ranges.

[DaveT]

I've got to thank the OP. I don't have a Saber, but I do have a Paladin I. I switched out all my casters from their Hurricane/Acolyte combo to the Paladin. It has some serious power to it, and an amazing range. I took out a ravager from across the map.

I've got to research all the good weapons that I don't know about.

[cronshaw]

cowwy wrote...

This is a question for all of you who think the Saber is a good gun. Why do you think that? What quality does it have over the other ARs that makes it a "good" gun? If you think it's a good gun I'd like to compare it to the Paladin for a bit. 

I'm sorry but you ask what makes it better than other ARs and then compare it to the Paladin?
So which is it?
do you want to know if it is a good AR:
it is
or if it is better than the paladin:
debatable

[cowwy]

modok8 wrote...

cowwy wrote...

This is a question for all of you who think the Saber is a good gun. Why do you think that? What quality does it have over the other ARs that makes it a "good" gun? If you think it's a good gun I'd like to compare it to the Paladin for a bit. 

I'm sorry but you ask what makes it better than other ARs and then compare it to the Paladin?
So which is it?
do you want to know if it is a good AR:
it is
or if it is better than the paladin:
debatable

You're arguing semantics. Is it a good AR when compared to the other ARs that have ultra rare status? No. Is it better than a weapon in a different class that also has ultra rare status that has half it's weight that functions in similar ways? No.

For a weapon that is as heavy as the Saber is, it should be objectively superior to the Paladin in almost all facets, save the obvious. If I was going to compare the weapons simply by weight, I'd never take the Saber over another gun, simply because for the encumbrance penalty you have to take you could have so many other and objectively better guns, e.g. Harrier, PPR.

So is it a good AR when compared to some other ARs? Sure, I'd take it over the Striker any day of the week, but if I wanted the best weapon for the weight, Saber would be very low on my list.

[cowwy]

DaveT wrote...

I've got to thank the OP. I don't have a Saber, but I do have a Paladin I. I switched out all my casters from their Hurricane/Acolyte combo to the Paladin. It has some serious power to it, and an amazing range. I took out a ravager from across the map.

I've got to research all the good weapons that I don't know about.

Anytime my friend.

Part of the point of this thread was to help people realize that the Saber isn't all it's cracked up to be. I have a Saber VI but I prefer to use my Paladin II just because it works better for me. Anyway the Saber isn't bad, but it should be a lot better for how heavy it is. From this thread I think I'm going to try out the Arc Pistol as well because I haven't used it in a long time.

[GriM_AoD]

>Magazine<

Dat sound.

[Daihannya]

At the end of the day the saber brings down enemies, and for certain classes that don't care about weight it actually benefits from the heavier thermal scope, and ar high velocity barrel. It also does it better than most other assault rifles.

If DPS is so important, then everyone should be running a grenade class like the MQE, harrier X, and just nuke spawn points, Of course that gets boring fast.

[xsdob]

ThatOddGuy wrote...

The stupid thing about the Saber is that, with reload cancelling, the Claymore fires nearly as quickly... and if it's range you want, Widow... (Saber is 80 RPM, Claymore is 64 RPM, and Widow is 70 RPM. The stats sheet actually doesn't mention RPM with reload cancelling)

Stupid thing about the Saber is its inability to one-shot enemies to the same capability as either of these two weapons.

Anything that you need to use (stunning powers) to make Saber servicable, the Paladin is better with. Faster recharge, headshot mod, heavy barrel...

Yes, but while each weapon specializes in a single fortee, the saber can do all three and switch between being a short range damage dealer, a long range bomber, and a stunning weapon, all at once.