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[Paranoidal nemesis]

David7204 wrote...

I see. The amount of people who purchase and play a product is "completely irrelevant." I'll remember that the next time I hear about a work of fiction selling millions.

In your mind Michael Bay > Ingmar Bergman?

[Brovikk Rasputin]

ld1449 wrote...

Brovikk Rasputin wrote...

You've been told a million times we won't get any more ending related DLC. Get over it and move on. This is a waste of internet space.

Yes you are

Welcome to second grade. Want a glass of milk?

[GimmeDaGun]

I'm not into this whole ending business. I'm fine with the endings: actually I like them (and no, it's not up to debate from my part, sorry...at this point everybody made up their minds about the endings and everybody who is here is very passionate and emotionally invested, so it wouldn't make sense).

So I wouldn't bother buying a traditional "happy ending" by Hollywood recipe for the story as a dlc. I'm more interested in more story related dlc-s which expand the experience, reveal new secrets, give me more adventures in the universe (yeah "collecting useless war assetts which don't change the endings" - again I have no ending fixation) rather then an ending mod which you have to pay for. I would also find it a stupid move from a business and artistic point of view: I mean changing the ending ("the one I meant to tell") of "my" story (yeah, I don't mean to be immersion breaking but we all know that despite the smart marketing slogens, it's still - and always was - Casey and co.'s story) because of certain demands, FOR MONEY? Selling this new ending to those fans just to make them stfu? I would find it a very disgusting move, really. 

Before some of you want to burn me at the stake, it is just my opinion. I know most of you disagree with it, but please don't start to claim that I am a troll, fanboy, "stupid" or "artsy" or one who says "I'm happy so stfu".



EDIT: Fixed for people who might misunderstand this part: "I mean changing the ending ("the one I meant to tell") of "my" story". - it aims to say it from the writer-developer's point of view, not from mine.

Modifié par GimmeDaGun, 19 décembre 2012 - 10:41 .

[GimmeDaGun]

Paranoidal nemesis wrote...

David7204 wrote...

I see. The amount of people who purchase and play a product is "completely irrelevant." I'll remember that the next time I hear about a work of fiction selling millions.

In your mind Michael Bay > Ingmar Bergman?

Maaaan! You know Bergman? Finally, someone! I thought I was the only one here who likes his films.

Modifié par GimmeDaGun, 19 décembre 2012 - 08:39 .

[MaximizedAction]

Soon...

[TheProtheans]

GimmeDaGun wrote...

I'm not into this whole ending business. I'm fine with the endings: actually I like them (and no, it's not up to debate from my part, sorry...at this point everybody made up their minds about the endings and everybody who is here is very passionate and emotionally invested, so it wouldn't make sense).

So I wouldn't bother buying a traditional "happy ending" by Hollywood recipe for the story as a dlc. I'm more interested in more story related dlc-s which expand the experience, reveal new secrets, give me more adventures in the universe (yeah "collecting useless war assetts which don't change the endings" - again I have no ending fixation) rather then an ending mod which you have to pay for. I would also find it a stupid move from a business and artistic point of view: I mean changing the ending ("the one I meant to tell") of "my" story (yeah, I don't mean to be immersion breaking but we all know that despite the smart marketing slogens, it's still - and always was - Casey and co.'s story) because of certain demands, FOR MONEY? Selling this new ending to those fans just to make them stfu? I would find it a very disgusting move, really. 

Before some of you want to burn me at the stake, it is just my opinion. I know most of you disagree with it, but please don't start to claim that I am a troll, fanboy, "stupid" or "artsy" or one who says "I'm happy so stfu".

It's not your story, you like Mass effect 3 so you of everyone should know that.
Most prefer an ending that makes sense, remove all the plot holes.

Your opinion is bad, but that could be explained by you being an artsy fanboy.

[Phobius9]

@TheProtheans

An excellent example of nearly everything that's wrong with these forums, summed up in one post. Good skills.

[GimmeDaGun]

TheProtheans wrote...

GimmeDaGun wrote...

I'm not into this whole ending business. I'm fine with the endings: actually I like them (and no, it's not up to debate from my part, sorry...at this point everybody made up their minds about the endings and everybody who is here is very passionate and emotionally invested, so it wouldn't make sense).

So I wouldn't bother buying a traditional "happy ending" by Hollywood recipe for the story as a dlc. I'm more interested in more story related dlc-s which expand the experience, reveal new secrets, give me more adventures in the universe (yeah "collecting useless war assetts which don't change the endings" - again I have no ending fixation) rather then an ending mod which you have to pay for. I would also find it a stupid move from a business and artistic point of view: I mean changing the ending ("the one I meant to tell") of "my" story (yeah, I don't mean to be immersion breaking but we all know that despite the smart marketing slogens, it's still - and always was - Casey and co.'s story) because of certain demands, FOR MONEY? Selling this new ending to those fans just to make them stfu? I would find it a very disgusting move, really. 

Before some of you want to burn me at the stake, it is just my opinion. I know most of you disagree with it, but please don't start to claim that I am a troll, fanboy, "stupid" or "artsy" or one who says "I'm happy so stfu".

It's not your story, you like Mass effect 3 so you of everyone should know that.
Most prefer an ending that makes sense, remove all the plot holes.

Your opinion is bad, but that could be explained by you being an artsy fanboy.

Ok, I see where you misunderstood me: that "the one I meant to tell" and that "my" is not meant to be read as it was my (GimmeDaGun's) viewpoint, but the actual creator's, writer's, developer's point of view. Note the quotation marks and the context it was written in.  But I will fix it for you as much as I can in my post.

Oh and thanks for behaving in a cool, grown up manner. Very refreshing. 

Modifié par GimmeDaGun, 19 décembre 2012 - 10:46 .

[Brovikk Rasputin]

Just ignore TheProtheans. He's a well known troll on here.

[ioannisdenton]

Suppose this DLC is omega quality and style then i am DONE with ME. Wont bother with ME4 as it will sure going to be more pew pew pew less story to care.
I wont buy the trilogy pack and NOT going to support Mass Effect team anymore.

[Darth_Trethon]

Eryri wrote...

Jade8aby88 wrote...

devSin wrote...

No, we're not.

The demand is still there... If anything that's a sign of hope. Heck, one of the people tweeting there is a writer herself. And she's calling it a terrible ending lol.....

Oh and btw, while Chris Priestly would probably know what's going on inside BioWare offices, do you *really* think he's going to post crap that would give anything away? He wouldn't be good at his job if he couldn't hide the truth.

The only way to know for sure, is once the dlc cycle is finished. Only then will we know for certain.

Anyway, I thought he'd been on holiday since late November? He even tweeted at one point that he was "out of the loop".

THIS^^^^ a trillion times this. Chris is NOT a developer and he's posted similar missinformation A LOT in the past. Not sure if he intends to lie or just isn't kept up to date with development but he's proven to be extremely unreliable in the past....prior to ME2 releasing he was bussy repeating a million times that Tali was never intended to be an LI and would never be one and that's the end of it. But the demand was there and sure enough it happened.

Chris used to play  early builds of BioWare games in the past prior to release or so he claimed anyway but I since Jessica Merizan has taken over as community manager his duties at BioWare have greatly diminished. Not to mention that with DLC they're unlikely to get anearly playable build until they are about done with it and beyond that BioWare has had plenty of problems with leaks as is so I doubt Chris would be told anything about what's being developed now so he's probably just repeating what BioWare was saying months ago prior to the release of the EC but things change by the second and if the demand is there there's a good chance they will make it happen.

[Wowky]

devSin wrote...

No, we're not.

I love how that dude threatens not to buy ME4 in his tweet. OH NO, ONE PERSON HAS SAID THEY WON'T BUY IT! CHANGE EVERYTHING!

[Ithurael]

Wowky wrote...

devSin wrote...

No, we're not.

I love how that dude threatens not to buy ME4 in his tweet. OH NO, ONE PERSON HAS SAID THEY WON'T BUY IT! CHANGE EVERYTHING!

have you seen this forum alone how many ppl won't buy ME4? Have you seen other comments about mass effect 3 across the internets? It is not a minority who are pissed. I would have thought the silence at the VGA's would have shown that people are - in fact - still pissed.

[Gamer790]

Ithurael wrote...

Wowky wrote...

devSin wrote...

No, we're not.

I love how that dude threatens not to buy ME4 in his tweet. OH NO, ONE PERSON HAS SAID THEY WON'T BUY IT! CHANGE EVERYTHING!

have you seen this forum alone how many ppl won't buy ME4? Have you seen other comments about mass effect 3 across the internets? It is not a minority who are pissed. I would have thought the silence at the VGA's would have shown that people are - in fact - still pissed.

I don't watch the VGAs so what is the silence you're talking about?

[Darth_Trethon]

Ithurael wrote...

Wowky wrote...

devSin wrote...

No, we're not.

I love how that dude threatens not to buy ME4 in his tweet. OH NO, ONE PERSON HAS SAID THEY WON'T BUY IT! CHANGE EVERYTHING!

have you seen this forum alone how many ppl won't buy ME4? Have you seen other comments about mass effect 3 across the internets? It is not a minority who are pissed. I would have thought the silence at the VGA's would have shown that people are - in fact - still pissed.

It's a lot simpler than that really.....have you seen how pissed off most of the fans were over the original ending? The reaction was extremely overwhelming and as close to unanimous as you're going to find on the internet with more than 95% of all the players that bothered to provide some kind of feedback pissed off with tens upon tens of thousands across several sites from the BSN to Facebook and youtube and other forums as well. The reaction was always the same.....everyone hated the ending. THAT will be diificult to overcome and convince people that ME4 will be worth bothering with especially since BioWare have proven to have no integrity with the pre-release blatant and deliberate lies.

So yeah....they REALLY do need to take these comments seriously.

Modifié par Darth_Trethon, 19 décembre 2012 - 01:13 .

[Nykara]

devSin wrote...

No, we're not.

That makes me very sad.

Id just started on a ME1 play  through hoping by the time I got through all the games I might have some news to the contrary. Now I've kinda lost my insentive again. :|

[ld1449]

Brovikk Rasputin wrote...

ld1449 wrote...

Brovikk Rasputin wrote...

You've been told a million times we won't get any more ending related DLC. Get over it and move on. This is a waste of internet space.

Yes you are

Welcome to second grade. Want a glass of milk?

[TheProtheans]

GimmeDaGun wrote...

TheProtheans wrote...

GimmeDaGun wrote...

I'm not into this whole ending business. I'm fine with the endings: actually I like them (and no, it's not up to debate from my part, sorry...at this point everybody made up their minds about the endings and everybody who is here is very passionate and emotionally invested, so it wouldn't make sense).

So I wouldn't bother buying a traditional "happy ending" by Hollywood recipe for the story as a dlc. I'm more interested in more story related dlc-s which expand the experience, reveal new secrets, give me more adventures in the universe (yeah "collecting useless war assetts which don't change the endings" - again I have no ending fixation) rather then an ending mod which you have to pay for. I would also find it a stupid move from a business and artistic point of view: I mean changing the ending ("the one I meant to tell") of "my" story (yeah, I don't mean to be immersion breaking but we all know that despite the smart marketing slogens, it's still - and always was - Casey and co.'s story) because of certain demands, FOR MONEY? Selling this new ending to those fans just to make them stfu? I would find it a very disgusting move, really. 

Before some of you want to burn me at the stake, it is just my opinion. I know most of you disagree with it, but please don't start to claim that I am a troll, fanboy, "stupid" or "artsy" or one who says "I'm happy so stfu".

It's not your story, you like Mass effect 3 so you of everyone should know that.
Most prefer an ending that makes sense, remove all the plot holes.

Your opinion is bad, but that could be explained by you being an artsy fanboy.

Ok, I see where you misunderstood me: that "the one I meant to tell" and that "my" is not meant to be read as it was my (GimmeDaGun's) viewpoint, but the actual creator's, writer's, developer's point of view. Note the quotation marks and the context it was written in.  But I will fix it for you as much as I can in my post.

Oh and thanks for behaving in a cool, grown up manner. Very refreshing. 

No problem, at least you didn't insult anyone and call them unintelligent in a burst of rage during a debate.

[MaleShep N7]

I'm generally optimist about everything, but I doubt Mac Walters and Casey Hudson would want to defy artistic integrity.

[WhiteKnyght]

garrusfan1 wrote...

 I hope

Bioware will never lock DLC behind roleplaying decisions.

Your idea forces the player to choose destroy and get the high EMS outcome. Which completely screws over other choices.

https://twitter.com/...793666976927744

Patrick Weekes: No, we wouldn't lock off DLC behind roleplaying plots like that.

Modifié par The Grey Nayr, 19 décembre 2012 - 10:45 .

[Brovikk Rasputin]

ld1449 wrote...

Brovikk Rasputin wrote...

ld1449 wrote...

Brovikk Rasputin wrote...

You've been told a million times we won't get any more ending related DLC. Get over it and move on. This is a waste of internet space.

Yes you are

Welcome to second grade. Want a glass of milk?

Make it clickable, and I might consider checking it out. 

[Peranor]

Nykara wrote...

devSin wrote...

No, we're not.

That makes me very sad.

Id just started on a ME1 play  through hoping by the time I got through all the games I might have some news to the contrary. Now I've kinda lost my insentive again. :|

Did people actually still think that BW would release a post ending DLC?

BW may not have been entirely truthful in their previous statements. But this "We're done with the endings" statement was one that I actually believed to be genuine.

[garrusfan1]

The Grey Nayr wrote...

garrusfan1 wrote...

 I hope

Bioware will never lock DLC behind roleplaying decisions.

Your idea forces the player to choose destroy and get the high EMS outcome. Which completely screws over other choices.

https://twitter.com/...793666976927744

Patrick Weekes: No, we wouldn't lock off DLC behind roleplaying plots like that.

Then they could add something for you control and synthesis fans as well. I imagined they would anyways

[Sonowske21]

Seems like BioWare is being really stubborn about not changing the ending. My thoughts are: if they really don't want to change the ending, then fine, don't. But don't expect everyone to buy Mass Effect 4.

[clennon8]

I wonder, how much "internet space" is there? And how much of can you use before you are wasting it?