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[Mcfly616]

Sonowske21 wrote...

Seems like BioWare is being really stubborn about not changing the ending. My thoughts are: if they really don't want to change the ending, then fine, don't. But don't expect everyone to buy Mass Effect 4.

when did Bioware ever say that they "expected everyone to buy ME4"?

They can be as stubborn as they want. It's their product. If you don't like it, don't buy ME4 and get someone elses product.

[Sonowske21]

Mcfly616 wrote...

Sonowske21 wrote...

Seems like BioWare is being really stubborn about not changing the ending. My thoughts are: if they really don't want to change the ending, then fine, don't. But don't expect everyone to buy Mass Effect 4.

when did Bioware ever say that they "expected everyone to buy ME4"?

They can be as stubborn as they want. It's their product. If you don't like it, don't buy ME4 and get someone elses product.

Thank you for repeating what I just said.

[KevShep]

Jade8aby88 wrote...


The demand is still there... If anything that's a sign of hope. Heck, one of the people tweeting there is a writer herself. And she's calling it a terrible ending lol.....

Oh and btw, while Chris Priestly would probably know what's going on inside BioWare offices, do you *really* think he's going to post crap that would give anything away? He wouldn't be good at his job if he couldn't hide the truth.

The only way to know for sure, is once the dlc cycle is finished. Only then will we know for certain.

The demand maybe high (REALLY high) but they are in no way shape or form going to listen to there own diying fanbase. Its this very thing that is the reason that they are no longer a favorate dev anymore and are a shining example of a turd with sparkles and glitter on it of what NOT to do as a developer.

Modifié par KevShep, 20 décembre 2012 - 06:58 .

[Nightwriter]

I wonder how much of their refusal to make such a DLC is due to financial impracticality, and how much of it is due to a simple unwillingness to create the impression that they "caved in to a petulant fanbase."

[Brovikk Rasputin]

Nightwriter wrote...

I wonder how much of their refusal to make such a DLC is due to financial impracticality, and how much of it is due to a simple unwillingness to create the impression that they "caved in to a petulant fanbase."

No reason to spend resources on something only a loud minority would actually want.

[FreshRevenge]

I wouldn't say a minority at all. BioWare wouldn't even bother with coming up with an extended cut only due to a small minority even as loud as they were. I think it is based on large majority of fans that were loud and got BioWare to redo the ending a bit.

I just would think before they started on ME4 they would make the ending that Mass Effect and my Shepard truly deserves!

[XXIceColdXX]

Brovikk Rasputin wrote...

Nightwriter wrote...

I wonder how much of their refusal to make such a DLC is due to financial impracticality, and how much of it is due to a simple unwillingness to create the impression that they "caved in to a petulant fanbase."

No reason to spend resources on something only a loud minority would actually want.

Im sure its not a minority, say among my friends i am the only one on the BSN, I know at least 6 people who have finished ME3 and were disapointed but would be more than happy to continue on if they were to fix the ending, they just dont come here and talk about it.

[Killdren88]

They are more likely to make a DLC that removes the Breath scene and shows Shepard dying in all the endings just to shut us up rather than to change it for the better.

[xtorma]

XXIceColdXX wrote...

Brovikk Rasputin wrote...

Nightwriter wrote...

I wonder how much of their refusal to make such a DLC is due to financial impracticality, and how much of it is due to a simple unwillingness to create the impression that they "caved in to a petulant fanbase."

No reason to spend resources on something only a loud minority would actually want.

Im sure its not a minority, say among my friends i am the only one on the BSN, I know at least 6 people who have finished ME3 and were disapointed but would be more than happy to continue on if they were to fix the ending, they just dont come here and talk about it.

you can't be sure.

[xtorma]

Killdren88 wrote...

They are more likely to make a DLC that removes the Breath scene and shows Shepard dying in all the endings just to shut us up rather than to change it for the better.

Like that would shut any of these butthurt people up. It would just make it worse.

[RocketManSR2]

xtorma wrote...

Like that would shut any of these butthurt people up. It would just make it worse.

Your trolling and repeated use of the word "butthurt" invalidates any post you make.

[Brovikk Rasputin]

FreshRevenge wrote...

I wouldn't say a minority at all. BioWare wouldn't even bother with coming up with an extended cut only due to a small minority even as loud as they were. I think it is based on large majority of fans that were loud and got BioWare to redo the ending a bit.

I just would think before they started on ME4 they would make the ending that Mass Effect and my Shepard truly deserves!

Oh no, not the "my Shepard deserves.." argument. Stop.

Also, you can't compare the outrage over the original endings with what we have now, which as I said, is just a very loud minority.

[RocketManSR2]

Brovikk Rasputin wrote...
Oh no, not the "my Shepard deserves.." argument. Stop.

Also, you can't compare the outrage over the original endings with what we have now, which as I said, is just a very loud minority.

There the troll goes again. You are full of crap if you claim to know for a fact that those who still hate the endings are the minority. BioWare will find out just how much of a "minority" we are when ME4 sells half of what ME3 did.

[Brovikk Rasputin]

lol. ME4 will sell juuuust fine.

[TheProtheans]

Brovikk Rasputin wrote...

lol. ME4 will sell juuuust fine.

Lol

[Reth Shepherd]

RocketManSR2 wrote...

xtorma wrote...

Like that would shut any of these butthurt people up. It would just make it worse.

Your trolling and repeated use of the word "butthurt" invalidates any post you make.

I've always been curious if the people who keep throwing that word around realize that they're implying Bioware committed a crime? "Butthurt" implies r*pe (of the an*l variety, if anyone wants to get picky). So if we're "butthurt" over Bioware's ending, doesn't that imply that Bioware committed a felony many thousands of times over?

Anyway, don't count on getting anything satisfying next DLC. I've yet to hear anything even remotely encouraging come out of their mouths. Not that I'd believe it if it did, tbh, not with their track record. Calling it now, lots of autodialogue, no change to the endings, and you're going up against Cerberus. I'd predict that it'll cost $15 again, but there's a small chance they might compare number of sales vs previous DLCs and conclude it's not worth it.

[ld1449]

xtorma wrote...


you can't be sure.

You can't dismiss the possibility either.

[hiraeth]

Reth Shepherd wrote...

I've always been curious if the people who keep throwing that word around realize that they're implying Bioware committed a crime? "Butthurt" implies r*pe (of the an*l variety, if anyone wants to get picky). So if we're "butthurt" over Bioware's ending, doesn't that imply that Bioware committed a felony many thousands of times over? 

Anyway, don't count on getting anything satisfying next DLC. I've yet to hear anything even remotely encouraging come out of their mouths. Not that I'd believe it if it did, tbh, not with their track record. Calling it now, lots of autodialogue, no change to the endings, and you're going up against Cerberus. I'd predict that it'll cost $15 again, but there's a small chance they might compare number of sales vs previous DLCs and conclude it's not worth it.

I didn't know we were going up against Cerberus--did Bioware confirm this (I haven't been on recently, so I might have missed something obvious).

EDIT: Oh wait, I just re-read and realized you were making predictions, not citing information that Bioware's released. My b!

Modifié par MassEffectFShep, 20 décembre 2012 - 05:50 .

[Iakus]

Brovikk Rasputin wrote...

FreshRevenge wrote...

I wouldn't say a minority at all. BioWare wouldn't even bother with coming up with an extended cut only due to a small minority even as loud as they were. I think it is based on large majority of fans that were loud and got BioWare to redo the ending a bit.

I just would think before they started on ME4 they would make the ending that Mass Effect and my Shepard truly deserves!

Oh no, not the "my Shepard deserves.." argument. Stop.

Also, you can't compare the outrage over the original endings with what we have now, which as I said, is just a very loud minority.

Of course.  Bioware ran out the clock and people moved on.  They didn't magically decide "You know what?  These endings aren't so bad after all"  They left for greener pastures and started playing Dishonored, The Walking Dead, X-Com, or whatever.

Forget those still exspressing rage.  If they're still here, they think Bioware can still be saved.  What Bioware should worry about are those who walked away is sheer disgust.  How is that crowd going to be won back, if they keep ignoring there's even a problem?

Fans aren't Doritos, Bioware can just "Crunch all we want, we'll make more"

[ME859]

XXIceColdXX wrote...

Brovikk Rasputin wrote...

Nightwriter wrote...

I wonder how much of their refusal to make such a DLC is due to financial impracticality, and how much of it is due to a simple unwillingness to create the impression that they "caved in to a petulant fanbase."

No reason to spend resources on something only a loud minority would actually want.

Im sure its not a minority, say among my friends i am the only one on the BSN, I know at least 6 people who have finished ME3 and were disapointed but would be more than happy to continue on if they were to fix the ending, they just dont come here and talk about it.

In all fairness would you?  Considering all the harasment and ridicule they've gotten.  Not that the harsh criticism of the product isn't well deserved considering what they promised and what we got but there are more then enough people on here that would love to take a personal cheap shot at a higher up.  At this point they've heard so much crap about the ending that it's probably driven them insane. 

However what I'd say is with EC they've at the very least gained enough goodwill from the public where they could justify creating an alternate ending and charging for it.  And why not?  The demand is there.  If this upcoming Citadel DLC is just a side mission thats not going to generate the type of interest they're hoping for.  A well recevied alternate ending on the other hand would have people screaming to take their money.   Then again that might be the problem, they might not know how to make an alternate ending that will please the majority of the holdouts.  

In short it's still complicated but I think I can narrow down the most common demands.

-Ending where Shepard survives and is reunited with the crew.  Or better yet another version where Shepard dies and is given an emotional funeral scene.  

- Ending with minimal sacrifice that destroys the reapers.  IE one or two important characters might die but you wouldn't kill an entire race.  

-  Epic final boss fight.  

- Getting rid of starbrat or at least give him a different form and voice.

Something that touched on all those points would easily win back the fan base though given how they've acted maybe they're not in a hurry to get them back.  It's easy to resent customers when you start looking at them as more trouble then they're worth and even though I loathe the endings I can still see where a lot of people at Bioware might be tempted to tell a good percentage of BSN to kiss off.

Modifié par ME859, 20 décembre 2012 - 07:20 .

[Ithurael]

iakus wrote...

Of course.  Bioware ran out the clock and people moved on.  They didn't magically decide "You know what?  These endings aren't so bad after all"  They left for greener pastures and started playing Dishonored, The Walking Dead, X-Com, or whatever.

Forget those still exspressing rage.  If they're still here, they think Bioware can still be saved.  What Bioware should worry about are those who walked away is sheer disgust.  How is that crowd going to be won back, if they keep ignoring there's even a problem?

Fans aren't Doritos, Bioware can just "Crunch all we want, we'll make more"

Well said sir.

+10

as for me...I am just here for the lemons

[AngryGRG]

wont happen i bet

[Alex_Dur4and]

Brovikk Rasputin wrote...

lol. ME4 will sell juuuust fine.

Rasputin... You really need to get a life!! Trolling the Bioware forums with your stupid non-sens... Do you have anything better to do?

[Brovikk Rasputin]

Alex_Dur4and wrote...

Brovikk Rasputin wrote...

lol. ME4 will sell juuuust fine.

Rasputin... You really need to get a life!! Trolling the Bioware forums with your stupid non-sens... Do you have anything better to do?

You don't know what trolling means. 

[Dr_Extrem]

there are not many people left ...

even multiplayer is relatively empty ...


if something hurts you, you are not dealing with it forever .. you move on.

masochists are the exception. ... be prepared of a very empty bsn in the future .. well exept the cod-crowd who will demand to get rid of the dialogue in me5 .. "cause it takes to much time"