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December 18th Balance Changes


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#76
unclemonster

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Great job Bioware thank you!!!

One question: will there be more MP DLC?????

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llandwynwyn

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>Base backfire damage decreased 300 to 250

*sigh*

Awful, useless changes like always.

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Return of the acolyte! Oh baby I missed you so much ....
I can vanguard with it again.

And very nice to release all 3 remaining kits and unlock all hazards. Chuffed.

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Eh, it's not like I used the backfire for damage anyway, I mainly used it for stun and potential tech bursts if left alone.

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Very nice! Thank you, and happy holidays.

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Grumpy Old Wizard

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So the acolyte is now complete crap for casters but an ok side arm for shooties who can melt bosses in 3 seconds anyways.  Gotcha. :crying:

Modifié par Grumpy Old Wizard, 18 décembre 2012 - 07:04 .


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llandwynwyn wrote...

>Base backfire damage decreased 300 to 250

*sigh*

Awful, useless changes like always.


While I dislike the damage Nerf, the cooldown fix will likey make it viable.

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Grumpy Old Wizard wrote...

So the acolyte is now complete crap for casters but an ok side arm for shooties who can melt bosses in 3 seconds anyways.  Gotcha. :crying:


You are obviously uncapable of holding down the shoot button for a short moment before firing. Its easy to use if you practice for say - 30 seconds. 
Its better now for casters since it has had its damage returned to normal. And no more annoying delay between firing a shot and reloading/switching weapons.

Learn to acolyte. 

#84
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I have to admit, I'm rather disappointed with these balance changes. Was a decrease to Sabotage's backfire damage really necessary? Given the number of times this power has been reduced in effectiveness the cooldown reduction should've been done for free in my mind. I'm not sure what the developers see in this power that they feel the need to nerf it in some form (almost) every time it's adjusted.

The Acolyte reversion also makes me sad as I hate charge weapons. I can deal with having to lead targets or having to account for drop, but I want the gun to fire when I press the mouse button. Time to reacclimate I suppose.

Modifié par Najarati, 18 décembre 2012 - 07:12 .


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Jaded4Chaos

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Fantastic! Thanks for all you do BioWare!

#86
TriniWarlord

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I hope there are UR's in that arsenal pack cause I've thrown millions down the drain tryin to level up my UR weapons and only gotten IV equipment :( I could use at least one UR unlock for Christmas.

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:) :)thanks for the early Christmas present!!!! love you bioware!!!!! happy holidays to everyone!!!

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Glad to see the Acolyte back to its former glory. I can use it again now!

Not happy about YET ANOTHER Sabotage NERF, but a trade off from damage to cooldown does make it more viable for the new kits with the power, but this chage DOES HURT the QFI. I guess too many people were using her. Poor sabotage, I think at this point its time to toss it out and replace it with something else since BW doesn't seem to know what to do with it.

The new paks should be interesting though.

Modifié par OuterRim, 18 décembre 2012 - 07:16 .


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Grumpy Old Wizard wrote...

So the acolyte is now complete crap for casters but an ok side arm for shooties who can melt bosses in 3 seconds anyways.  Gotcha. :crying:


Quite opposite actually...

You can lob an acolyte and a cyro blast simultaneously now.  Or an acolyte and singularity...  On the fury you can fire it while running into AF/Throw combo without stopping like a '****** to fire it...  Or charge it then cloak and stay cloaked, fire it and stay cloaked - shadow strike 1-2 plat phantom w/ ease.... Charge it then biotic charge to autoshoot for a 1-2 punch.  Fire and quick switch to primary weapon...  higher rof etc... It went back to the absolutely amazing gun it was and not the pos it was nerfed to.

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Happy holidays Bioware !

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llandwynwyn

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MrScottBear wrote...

While I dislike the damage Nerf, the cooldown fix will likey make it viable.


How many times has Sabotage being nerfed? Does it need to be now, when we have even more OP things? Why does Inferno Grenade gets buffs when it can kill entire Gold spawns with just 2 or 3 nades used?

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The original Krysae damage and fire-rate for Holidays only could be a great Christmas present.

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Grumpy Old Wizard

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Striker93175 wrote...

Grumpy Old Wizard wrote...

So the acolyte is now complete crap for casters but an ok side arm for shooties who can melt bosses in 3 seconds anyways.  Gotcha. :crying:


Quite opposite actually...

You can lob an acolyte and a cyro blast simultaneously now.  Or an acolyte and singularity...  On the fury you can fire it while running into AF/Throw combo without stopping like a '****** to fire it...  Or charge it then cloak and stay cloaked, fire it and stay cloaked - shadow strike 1-2 plat phantom w/ ease.... Charge it then biotic charge to autoshoot for a 1-2 punch.  Fire and quick switch to primary weapon...  higher rof etc... It went back to the absolutely amazing gun it was and not the pos it was nerfed to.


Sadly squishies don't have the damage reduction and thousands of health/barriers that Krogods have and can't afford to stand in the open to charge it.  The only classes it is better for with a charge are vanguards and infiltrators. It sucks for squishy casters.

Sadly Bioware forgot they made the gun to help biotics, for whom the gun is now worthless.

Modifié par Grumpy Old Wizard, 18 décembre 2012 - 07:29 .


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Well, non-asari acolyte is back, time to find out how to mod those bs-descriptions (especially charge-acolyte=asari-gun) into something that makes sense.

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Lawrence0294

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Wow, very nice indeed.

Happy Holidays.

#96
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The Sabotage changes are quite confusing.. Backfire damage (even with tech vulnerabilty) isn't that great without TC bonus damage. Why the hell are they nerfing the damage.. It seems that the balance is geared towards QFI but Infiltrators doesn't care about CDs.. And again non-infiltrator kits with sabotage are hit harder with the damage nerf...

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Why does anyone like the original acolyte pos gun now not happy. At least I already got all challenges with it. Sabotage sucks the way it is better cool down time equals yay less backfire damage why?

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ImHimTheButcher

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I like no charge time acolyte they need to come out for a no charge version for people that like it that way and keep a charge version for people that like that one.

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Sabotage has had a long sad history. I still think it needs to be buffed and the Backfire nerf was unnecessary.

Let's go through a list of nerfs and buffs, why don't we?

Nerf: 8 sec. base cooldown increased to -> 10 sec.
Nerf: 2 hacked targets decreased to -> 1 target
Nerf: +100% Berserk damage decreased to -> 50%
Nerf: 2 sec. base hack duration decreased to -> 10 seconds
Nerf: 2 sec. delay for enemies attacking hacked targets increased to -> 10 seconds
Nerf: 100% Tech Vulnerability decreased to -> 50%
Nerf: Tech Vulnerability stacking removed
Buff: 30% Backfire damage bonus increased to -> 60%
Buff: 2 sec. Backfire delay decreased to -> 1.5 sec.
Buff: 150 base Backfire damage incraesed to -> 250

<_<

Modifié par ZombieGambit, 18 décembre 2012 - 07:56 .


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Very nice indeed Bioware. Thank you.