Mass Effect 3: Reckoning.
#751
Posté 26 janvier 2013 - 10:50
#752
Posté 26 janvier 2013 - 11:31
Homey C-Dawg wrote...
I don't get these "it isn't worded right" excuses. This is the description of the proposed leak...The day of reckoning is nigh! The Reckoning Multiplayer Expansion brings six new never before seen co-op story missions to the game and new co-op gameplay modes. It provides four new maps to conquer and hazard variations of the Earth maps. It also enables reinforcement packs that offer new kits for the salarians, krogans, humans and volus. In-game reinforcement packs now include three new weapons (Chakram Launcher, Blood Pack Punisher and Adas Anti-Synthetic Rifle).
This is the description for Retaliation and Rebellion...Harbingers Black Arks have arrived. Mass Effect 3 Retaliation unleashes the Collectors against the allied forces, adding an all new fourth faction to the battle. Cerberus Dragoons and Geth Bombers reinforce their troops, and the allies fight back with new weapons, mods, kits, and ammo types. Six firebases are now swept by hazards as well as enemies.
The Rebellion Multiplayer expansion opens two new fronts against the reapers: Firebase Jade's jungle reservior and Firebase Goddess on Thessia. In-game reinfocement packs as well as equipment, consumables, and six new classes. Quarian Engineer and Infiltrator, Vorcha Soldier and Sentinel, Phoenix Adept and Vanguard.
Maybe it's just me, but after re-reading the old DLC descriptions, I feel that the proposed leak is actually perfectly in line with how they've been described so far.
1. Notice how none of the previous descriptions are as repetitive. "unleashes collectors", "adding a new faction" etc. etc.
The current reddit leak literally goes "adds X and Y. adds A and B."
2. Bioware already stated that adding new game-modes is a no-go.
3. As someone pointed out, Bioware DO know their plurals. "Multiple Krogan" not "multiple Krogans".
4. New Volus kits seem unlikely due to mediocre reception. They also wouldn't simply ignore the Turian Female art assets they already have which would require little effort to port into MP. Also, more Krogan and human classes - but no Drell? Those were also heavily asked for by fans.
5. What about the rest of the weapons - specifically, the Venom executioner shotgun - that OTS predicted? After all, he's a credible source with a flawless record.
6. Why are the three new weapons in brackets? That screams "illegit" to me.
Modifié par BlackbirdSR-71C, 26 janvier 2013 - 11:33 .
#753
Posté 26 janvier 2013 - 11:37
Doesn't really matter, it's all speculation on both sides at this point. You choose to write it off as BS, I choose to take it with a grain of salt due to the existing pattern.
#754
Posté 26 janvier 2013 - 11:45
Chakram Launcher
Adas Rifle
BP Punisher SMG
BP Executioner Pistol
Venom Shotgun
#755
Posté 26 janvier 2013 - 11:47
N7-RedFox wrote...
The reddit leak has to be bullsh** because they said only 3 new weapons. There are 5 new weapons not 3.
Chakram Launcher
Adas Rifle
BP Punisher SMG
BP Executioner Pistol
Venom Shotgun
Hmm guess I might as well jump on the bandwagon, eh?
Reddit leak is BS because it says kits when it clearly should say characters.
#756
Posté 26 janvier 2013 - 11:47
Homey C-Dawg wrote...
I think you're really grasping at straws with those "discrepancies". Every description is going to be a bit different. Go read the rest of the DLC descriptions and you'll find just as many small differences in each.
Doesn't really matter, it's all speculation on both sides at this point. You choose to write it off as BS, I choose to take it with a grain of salt due to the existing pattern.
Not really, only three of my reasons pertain to how the description is worded.
Two of the other three I can't see how anyone could dimsiss them, the third isn't a hard fact either but it'd severly go against the tendencies.
#757
Posté 26 janvier 2013 - 11:52
N7-RedFox wrote...
The reddit leak has to be bullsh** because they said only 3 new weapons. There are 5 new weapons not 3.
Chakram Launcher
Adas Rifle
BP Punisher SMG
BP Executioner Pistol
Venom Shotgun
Yes, but in every single DLC (if I remember well) comes out with just 3 new guns. In any event, I don't believe this supposed leak neither.
#758
Posté 26 janvier 2013 - 11:58
BlackbirdSR-71C wrote...
Homey C-Dawg wrote...
I think you're really grasping at straws with those "discrepancies". Every description is going to be a bit different. Go read the rest of the DLC descriptions and you'll find just as many small differences in each.
Doesn't really matter, it's all speculation on both sides at this point. You choose to write it off as BS, I choose to take it with a grain of salt due to the existing pattern.
Not really, only three of my reasons pertain to how the description is worded.
Two of the other three I can't see how anyone could dimsiss them, the third isn't a hard fact either but it'd severly go against the tendencies.
Okie dokie loki, here goes..
Points 1, 3 and 6 are regarding the description.
Points 4 and 5 regards the description too. Look at the retaliation description. They didn't mention a lot of stuff by name. Lack of reference does not mean lack of inclusion.
Point 2 is the only one I couldn't argue against, except I never read that dev post and you didn't site your reference.
#759
Posté 27 janvier 2013 - 12:05
#760
Posté 27 janvier 2013 - 12:06
#761
Posté 27 janvier 2013 - 12:06
Homey C-Dawg wrote...
BlackbirdSR-71C wrote...
Homey C-Dawg wrote...
I think you're really grasping at straws with those "discrepancies". Every description is going to be a bit different. Go read the rest of the DLC descriptions and you'll find just as many small differences in each.
Doesn't really matter, it's all speculation on both sides at this point. You choose to write it off as BS, I choose to take it with a grain of salt due to the existing pattern.
Not really, only three of my reasons pertain to how the description is worded.
Two of the other three I can't see how anyone could dimsiss them, the third isn't a hard fact either but it'd severly go against the tendencies.
Okie dokie loki, here goes..
Points 1, 3 and 6 are regarding the description.
Points 4 and 5 regards the description too. Look at the retaliation description. They didn't mention a lot of stuff by name. Lack of reference does not mean lack of inclusion.
Point 2 is the only one I couldn't argue against, except I never read that dev post and you didn't site your reference.
You can't just dismiss 5 or even 4 like that. If the description says "3 new weapons" that means we'll get 3 new weapons, not 5 or 6.
Look: If you were selling a product and it had quite a lot points going for it, why on earth would you not point them out?
It's true, the description for Retaliation didn't name every single class. It did however state that we'd get 16 new classes, and no more than 16 classes did we get. Not to mention that 12 of those were (sometimes badly) copy-pasted classes, so there's a reason not all of those were named.
As for my source on number 2: http://social.biowar...3&lf=8#14615853
#762
Posté 27 janvier 2013 - 12:07
OneTrueShot wrote...
Just to state, I did not author that reddit post, nor will I confirm or deny the rumors.
Do you know the user derptemp? He leaked Rebellion I believe, as well as Hearthfire for Skyrim. But he hasn't posted anything in a long time - do you know what happened to him?
#763
Posté 27 janvier 2013 - 12:09
BlackbirdSR-71C wrote...
OneTrueShot wrote...
Just to state, I did not author that reddit post, nor will I confirm or deny the rumors.
Do you know the user derptemp? He leaked Rebellion I believe, as well as Hearthfire for Skyrim. But he hasn't posted anything in a long time - do you know what happened to him?
No comment, apologies.
#764
Posté 27 janvier 2013 - 12:12
BlackbirdSR-71C wrote...
You can't just dismiss 5 or even 4 like that. If the description says "3 new weapons" that means we'll get 3 new weapons, not 5 or 6.
Look: If you were selling a product and it had quite a lot points going for it, why on earth would you not point them out?
It's true, the description for Retaliation didn't name every single class. It did however state that we'd get 16 new classes, and no more than 16 classes did we get. Not to mention that 12 of those were (sometimes badly) copy-pasted classes, so there's a reason not all of those were named.
As for my source on number 2: http://social.biowar...3&lf=8#14615853
I understand your point of view, I just don't share it. Thanks for the link btw, I missed that thread.
All we can do is wait and see.
#765
Posté 27 janvier 2013 - 12:20
BW calls them kits in house. This came up last time when the info was talking about new Volus/Turian kits.Homey C-Dawg wrote...
N7-RedFox wrote...
The reddit leak has to be bullsh** because they said only 3 new weapons. There are 5 new weapons not 3.
Chakram Launcher
Adas Rifle
BP Punisher SMG
BP Executioner Pistol
Venom Shotgun
Hmm guess I might as well jump on the bandwagon, eh?
Reddit leak is BS because it says kits when it clearly should say characters.
#766
Posté 27 janvier 2013 - 12:23
I have no real desire to see this in MP, its ludicrously OP in its current state.N7-RedFox wrote...
The reddit leak has to be bullsh** because they said only 3 new weapons. There are 5 new weapons not 3.
Chakram Launcher
Adas Rifle
BP Punisher SMG
BP Executioner Pistol
Venom Shotgun
#767
Posté 27 janvier 2013 - 12:25
#768
Posté 27 janvier 2013 - 12:28
Asebstos wrote...
I have no real desire to see this in MP, its ludicrously OP in its current state.N7-RedFox wrote...
The reddit leak has to be bullsh** because they said only 3 new weapons. There are 5 new weapons not 3.
Chakram Launcher
Adas Rifle
BP Punisher SMG
BP Executioner Pistol
Venom Shotgun
The fantastic world of balancing, which not to sound snarky, has happened to every single weapon. Even before being added (Argus for example).
#769
Posté 27 janvier 2013 - 12:35
#770
Posté 27 janvier 2013 - 12:43
#771
Posté 27 janvier 2013 - 01:06
That's true, but they have yet to get a weapon 'right' without a few weeks of balance changes after it was imported to the MP.Doommarine23 wrote...
Asebstos wrote...
I have no real desire to see this in MP, its ludicrously OP in its current state.N7-RedFox wrote...
The reddit leak has to be bullsh** because they said only 3 new weapons. There are 5 new weapons not 3.
Chakram Launcher
Adas Rifle
BP Punisher SMG
BP Executioner Pistol
Venom Shotgun
The fantastic world of balancing, which not to sound snarky, has happened to every single weapon. Even before being added (Argus for example).
#772
Posté 27 janvier 2013 - 02:21
BlackbirdSR-71C wrote...
5. What about the rest of the weapons - specifically, the Venom executioner shotgun - that OTS predicted? After all, he's a credible source with a flawless record.
When?
#773
Posté 27 janvier 2013 - 03:32
BlackbirdSR-71C wrote...
You can't just dismiss 5 or even 4 like that. If the description says "3 new weapons" that means we'll get 3 new weapons, not 5 or 6.
Look: If you were selling a product and it had quite a lot points going for it, why on earth would you not point them out?
It's true, the description for Retaliation didn't name every single class. It did however state that we'd get 16 new classes, and no more than 16 classes did we get. Not to mention that 12 of those were (sometimes badly) copy-pasted classes, so there's a reason not all of those were named.
As for my source on number 2: http://social.biowar...3&lf=8#14615853
Stop posting BlackbirdSR-71C, you're really dumb. The only valid point you bring up is about the "new co-op story missions and co-op gameplay modes" because the dev did actually say they wouldn't be able to do that 3 months ago......I guess maybe it's possible that they managed to get it done.
#774
Posté 27 janvier 2013 - 03:46
Cdr. Pwn wrote...
BlackbirdSR-71C wrote...
You can't just dismiss 5 or even 4 like that. If the description says "3 new weapons" that means we'll get 3 new weapons, not 5 or 6.
Look: If you were selling a product and it had quite a lot points going for it, why on earth would you not point them out?
It's true, the description for Retaliation didn't name every single class. It did however state that we'd get 16 new classes, and no more than 16 classes did we get. Not to mention that 12 of those were (sometimes badly) copy-pasted classes, so there's a reason not all of those were named.
As for my source on number 2: http://social.biowar...3&lf=8#14615853
Stop posting BlackbirdSR-71C, you're really dumb. The only valid point you bring up is about the "new co-op story missions and co-op gameplay modes" because the dev did actually say they wouldn't be able to do that 3 months ago......I guess maybe it's possible that they managed to get it done.
That's what I'm hoping for. If there is one thing Bioware has shown it's that the rules can change depending on the circumstances.
#775
Posté 27 janvier 2013 - 03:52




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