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[HiroVoid]

Dragon Age should have as much physical customization as Dragon's Dogma.

[Allan Schumacher]

The thing that most folks may not have noticed about Geralt's swords is that the only thing that was different about them was their hilts. The blades are all of uniform length, shape, and width. The crossguard and the pommels differed, but all steel swords and all silver swords all still had the same respective dimensions in order for the animations and scabbards to work with them.

I think there are some slight differences in the shape, but yes, I think there's a fairly well defined bounding box of where the weapons must go.

I imagine that it could be easy to fix such issues in Dragon Age. All that would have to happen is that all weapons of each type must adhere to standardized sizes and shapes for certain parts, specifically the area where the hands grip, and the area around where the weapon attaches to the back. If you can guarantee that the 3D space around the weapon's attachment point will always be the same size, then the developers can get rid of the floatiness and possibly even toss in a scabbard or a carrying strap. If they vary in size, shape, and look, then this rapidly becomes a much more expensive endeavor.

Yeah. I mean, it's just a different type of restriction on the design (one which I think I mentioned), and it is possible. Geralt's armor is customizable too, but in a quick look on the wikia page, unsurprisingly there's a bounding box constraint there too.

If Geralt could also be more "heavy plate" or mage like, there would have had to be restrictions there.

[Maria Caliban]

I'd actually like a (wait for it) weapon visability toggle like the one for helmets. Yes, there are a number of times when the weapons look cool on the back, but there are just as many when they look out of place and unattractive.

[Beerfish]

I hope they tone down the size of weapons, the massively big staves and swords and axes and mauls looked stupid in my mind.

[bombspy]

Allan Schumacher wrote...

Yeah. I mean, it's just a different type of restriction on the design (one which I think I mentioned), and it is possible. Geralt's armor is customizable too, but in a quick look on the wikia page, unsurprisingly there's a bounding box constraint there too.

If Geralt could also be more "heavy plate" or mage like, there would have had to be restrictions there.

So if DAI had a similar armor system as Mass Effect 2 and 3 with just partial customization it would be possible to get rid of floating weapons by standardize the bounding boxes of weapons and armor?

If so I'd prefer standard outfit with partial customization over floating weapons. I guess most players just use the armor with the best stats anyway and don't care how it looks.

[Twisted Path]

Maria Caliban wrote...

I'd actually like a (wait for it) weapon visability toggle like the one for helmets. Yes, there are a number of times when the weapons look cool on the back, but there are just as many when they look out of place and unattractive.

There are mods for that in DA:O and DA2 that I always play with now (along with the no-gibbing mod. Can't image playing DA2 without that.)  Making that a feature would be really nice, especially for people playing on console. It's a shame you have to play on PC and mod your game to remove superficial stuff that you find distracting/ugly/unessisary.

[Overdosing]

This can go with having a sword, being an archer, or a dual-weapon wielder. I don't think the weapons are strapped or sealed to their backs. It's like their backs and armor are goddamn magnets or something...it's pretty odd.

Modifié par Overdosing, 20 décembre 2012 - 01:56 .

[Fiddzz]

For me I have never really minded weapons on the back floating, I even think I prefer it. Most of the DA games (and games like it, WoW, 3rd person rpgs, etc) you are always looking at the back of your character, I like seeing my new awesome weapon with its fire enchant than my characters cloak.

[nightscrawl]

Allan Schumacher wrote...

Situations where weapons did need to be drawn in a cinematic, and stuff like that. Might not be too difficult to do. I wouldn't know the finer details of what all is involved, unfortunately.

In both DAO and DA2 there are scenes where your character is required to have a weapon: for DAO there is the death blow to the Archdemon, and DA2 with the Arishok. Even if you are a rogue or a warrior with your own bladed weapons equipped, even if you just finished using those weapons on that very boss, you are shown using the weapon the cinematic designers have put in there.

Blair Brown wrote...

For me I have never really minded weapons on the back floating, I even think I prefer it. Most of the DA games (and games like it, WoW, 3rd person rpgs, etc) you are always looking at the back of your character, I like seeing my new awesome weapon with its fire enchant than my characters cloak.

I would like 1-handed weapons to float at the hip instead.

In WoW, weapons "sheath" on the hip or back depending on weapon model. All 2-handers and staves go on the back, all daggers (and I think maces also) go on the hip. Most 1-handed swords go on the hip unless they are very large, then those also go on the back.

There are also some inconsistencies in that some weapons with the same model will have some versions that sheath on the back while others go on the hip; Phantom Blade (back) vs Continuum Blade (hip). This is not restricted to caster or melee weapons, as there are some melee weapons that have the same inconsistency.

Modifié par nightscrawl, 20 décembre 2012 - 04:29 .

[Little Princess Peach]

I would like to see somthing holding the staffs while they are held on the persons back, in the last two games the staffs seemed to flaot behind the mage

[DragonAgeLegend]

I also don't even care the slightest that the weapons on the backs float. Seriously, there's a massive story going on with amazing fighting scenes and secrets to unlock, why would you even think about the weapons floating let alone care? DA is good as it is, I say keep the weapons as they are, as this allows more flexibility during cut scenes and what not.

[Gibb_Shepard]

Blair Brown wrote...

 I like seeing my new awesome weapon with its fire enchant than my characters cloak.

That's a good point. I guess it can be argued that the lack of a scabbard can also be an artistic choice, as opposed to a consequence of an overly convoluted development process.

[NRieh]

Look at Harry Potter, he don't use staff but a wand. in fairy tales most Mages use wand.

Other games like Diablo 2 and 3 use a variety of weapons for Mages, not only staff but wand and orbs, and there is a sword for a Mage as i remember.

*imagined DA2 Gallows confrontation with Anders using the wand instead of staff and shouting Thedas version of "Avadakedavra" ...wishes to unimagine it back*

I think I'm fine with mages using staves. Yes, that's a stereotype, but I see this one more fitting DA series than wands or orbs. Wynne or Morrigan with Godmother Fairy animation?...no, thanx. And also it has some minor chances to be useful in close-combat situation.

Another possible option is no weapon at all (bare hands casting) with some stats-trinket that occupies invisible slot. Anders healed boy with his staff in the corner of the room. Probably, the cheapest one (as you don't need to draw all those cool looking things)...but, hey, people like cool-looking things.

Where to put them off-combat? Hard question, because it's not lightsaber that can be turned off and it can hardly be folded like ME sniper rifles. Busy hands make a lot of common animation impossible. Having staff behind back is ok, unless they do not forget to turn it off while character takes a seat in cut scene. THAT one does look wierd. 8)

Modifié par Nrieh, 20 décembre 2012 - 12:52 .

[NRieh]

In both DAO and DA2 there are scenes where your character is required to have a weapon: for DAO there is the death blow to the Archdemon, and DA2 with the Arishok. Even if you are a rogue or a warrior with your own bladed weapons equipped, even if you just finished using those weapons on that very boss, you are shown using the weapon the cinematic designers have put in there.

With Archdemon it had some sense - Warden uses the nearby sword, (s)he takes it during cut-scene. Still looks awfully stupid for a mage. But where did my archer lady get that sword to finish Arishok - I have no idea (if I'm remembering the scene right, that's not much like her daggers that exist somewhere for close-combat moments)

[Vilegrim]

Blair Brown wrote...

For me I have never really minded weapons on the back floating, I even think I prefer it. Most of the DA games (and games like it, WoW, 3rd person rpgs, etc) you are always looking at the back of your character, I like seeing my new awesome weapon with its fire enchant than my characters cloak.

where as I prefer scabbarded swords, may have something to do with actually owning live blades irl and realising the 'oops I just maimed myself' possiblities of unsheathed blades anywhere near squishy flesh.

[macrocarl]

I don't mind floaty stuff on my toon's back but when they sit in a chair and still have the weapon in it looks real sloppy. Not just in DA but any game. It's nit picky I know but ti's literally the only thing I don't like about DA games!

[Fiddzz]

For context as well, when I game I don't do "massive immersion". So floaty weapons and other things like that don't pull me out of the game and break the roleplay like it does for some people.

[NoForgiveness]

i have more of a problem with the templars not seeing the staff. like normal people just carry magical staffs around all day

[CrazyRah]

I think i prefer having the staff at the back kind of "floating". Ito would feel like as if something was missing if i didn't have a staff there

[Cyne]

Maria Caliban wrote...

I'd actually like a (wait for it) weapon visability toggle like the one for helmets. Yes, there are a number of times when the weapons look cool on the back, but there are just as many when they look out of place and unattractive.

I would love a toggle switch too. It would be cool to have choice.

[Spedfrom]

MR_PN wrote...

i have more of a problem with the templars not seeing the staff. like normal people just carry magical staffs around all day

Yes, that has major implications in a game where staff-bearers are supposed to be locked up in a tower. You need only to do basic critical thinking to understand that the game isn't reacting according to its own lore and that breaks immersion more than anything else.

I have confidence that the devs are taking that into consideration for DA3.

[schalafi]

Besides the problem of how they sit with a 6 foot staff on their back, when they turn sideways you can see the air space between the staff and the mage, and warriors with swords have the same problem, which looks really odd. Also in certain love scenes, Anders and my fem Hawke mage both have their staffs on. I think there should be a way to remove the staff at certain times...either with a toggle, or something.

Modifié par schalafi, 21 décembre 2012 - 03:13 .

[deuce985]

Return of the mysterious floating weapons and no bow strings! It's a Dragon Age trademark by now. It's ok if it comes back.





It's almost as mysterious as the mythical Murder Knife and its origins. Just another piece of untapped lore in the DA universe!

On a serious note, I thought scabbards were a REALLY nice touch in Witcher 2. It must be something that costs a lot of resources because the majority of fantasy RPGs suffer similar problems to DA.

Modifié par deuce985, 21 décembre 2012 - 04:17 .

[KR4U55]

The bowstring would be really nice. I don't mind floating weapons in the back, really. But the bows. Bowstrings would be really nice now I think about it.