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[mopotter]

Aaleel wrote...

Depends on what I hear about it. It definitely won't be a pre-order or a day 1 purchase.

This.

If I hear from people I trust - NOT reviewers - I'll pick it up.  I won't be pre-ordering it.

[Dragoonlordz]

Pointless poll, not a single person here even has slighest idea what in reality the next game will be like or contain. Voting in such a poll without any information on the next game to base a decision on makes all votes redundant (imho). They might release information about the next game that fills you with glee or contempt but at this time this question is pointless and would be better asked when the next game is in production and information released.

Modifié par Dragoonlordz, 21 décembre 2012 - 06:42 .

[AresKeith]

Descy_ wrote...

Vic-TIM of Circumstance wrote...

Honestly it depends. I'm not going to commit on a game not even close to being finished, that's just foolish. We don't really know anything about it.

[Mastone]

Well based on what Bioware delivered and how they have developed Mass effect I would have to say no, I will not buy a 4th.
Maybe if it get's developed by another( perhaps younger) game company I would consider it.

[clarkusdarkus]

Will never be worth buying upon release as there's a continued trend of mediocre gaming lately from bioware, DA2/TOR/ME3.... But i reckon it would be an awesome rental of which i'll proceed to do from now on with bioware games.

[katamuro]

Its not coming out for another 2 years so I would say its a bit early to say anything

[3DandBeyond]

Dridengx wrote...

Only a fool wouldn't pick up Mass Effect 4. It's a brand new character, new everything. Even if you are left bitter it's new! 33% of people who took that poll shouldn't even be here lol but they continue to be here almost a YEAR later and will continue, and will also continue to purchase the next Mass Effect because no matter how disappointed they claim to be, they are addicted because they know, no other franchise or company has this much customization and choice. They are more guaranteed to buy future games because they can't help themselves and they prove it by remaining here posting negative rants months after a game is released.

The rest of the world has moved on to other new games and anticipating upcoming games yet these individuals remain dwelling.

Ok so people have differing opinions and that makes them fools?  What if you buy ME4, 5, and then 6 even though ME4 is about killer clowns who roam the galaxy naked taking people hostage to perform in their circus.  5 is about a killer clown who reforms and wants to help the hero, a giant elephant, save the galaxy from the clowns, and at the end of 6, the killer clowns, still naked, insist that they were there to help and that the elephant must join their circus to stop others from abducting people?  Would this be a definite buy for you?

Ok then to be more real.  What if 4 and 5 are great games with really dark, serious stories that make it clear it's not going to end well and then at the end of 6 some super intelligent unknown being suddenly saves the galaxy and the dying hero is saved with magical omnigel with anti-aging properties.  And it features a long drawn out reunion scene where we get to see the hero's 2 LIs give birth in full technicolor while the alternate LIs are seen building mansions with the hero and their 24 kids?  Would this be a must buy for you?

[3DandBeyond]

Dragoonlordz wrote...

Pointless poll, not a single person here even has slighest idea what in reality the next game will be like or contain. Voting in such a poll without any information on the next game to base a decision on makes all votes redundant (imho). They might release information about the next game that fills you with glee or contempt but at this time this question is pointless and would be better asked when the next game is in production and information released.

Actually, we do have a lot of information upon which to form an opinion as to our attitudes right now.  But most people do allow room to be convinced otherwise.  Like, you might say right now you'd buy it, but then if you saw it and it was way too happy and sappy for no good reason or if there was no story or if there was no shooting, you might decide not to buy it.  I have an opinion right now.  Mine is to wait and see, but tending toward not buying it. 

Definitely not pre-ordering and not buying until it's been out awhile with a lot of videos about it.  This is counter to how I usually like to play games-I don't want to see what they are all about.  But, I mostly feel that even then the decision will be tough because ME wasn't totally ruined until years and then gameplay hours after ME1 was released.  In my opinion.  So, they still could ruin a good ME4 in ME6.  And as yet ME3 only has a decent fanmade ending for me.  The same for a heck of a lot of people.

[johnj1979]

If Mass Effect 4 was to come out tomorrow I definitely say no.

If Mass Effect 4 was sequel to Mass Effect 3 I would say no

If Mass Effect 4 was a prequel to Mass Effect I would consider it.

If Mass Effect 4 was a sequel to Mass Effect 1 & 2 I would buy it only becuase I would have to to complete the story

[argan1985]

Maybe in the bargain bin.

[Dragoonlordz]

3DandBeyond wrote...

Dragoonlordz wrote...

Pointless poll, not a single person here even has slighest idea what in reality the next game will be like or contain. Voting in such a poll without any information on the next game to base a decision on makes all votes redundant (imho). They might release information about the next game that fills you with glee or contempt but at this time this question is pointless and would be better asked when the next game is in production and information released.

Actually, we do have a lot of information upon which to form an opinion as to our attitudes right now.  But most people do allow room to be convinced otherwise.  Like, you might say right now you'd buy it, but then if you saw it and it was way too happy and sappy for no good reason or if there was no story or if there was no shooting, you might decide not to buy it.  I have an opinion right now.  Mine is to wait and see, but tending toward not buying it. 

Definitely not pre-ordering and not buying until it's been out awhile with a lot of videos about it.  This is counter to how I usually like to play games-I don't want to see what they are all about.  But, I mostly feel that even then the decision will be tough because ME wasn't totally ruined until years and then gameplay hours after ME1 was released.  In my opinion.  So, they still could ruin a good ME4 in ME6.  And as yet ME3 only has a decent fanmade ending for me.  The same for a heck of a lot of people.

I disagree about this "a lot of information" you claim to have. Does any of this information actually tell you the story, the characters, the location of this next game? What about features and gameplay mechanics? The only thing you know is that Shepard will not be the protaganist according to Bioware. They do not even know if will be prequel or sequel yet and asking for what people want. Is this information you speak of merely assumptions then or just imaginary trends you percieve? Is this information related to the game at all or just how you feel about the developer or publisher? I am genuinely curious to know this  information you have, I want to see what it is too but only if relates to the actual game and not reliance on assumption.

Modifié par Dragoonlordz, 21 décembre 2012 - 10:39 .

[3DandBeyond]

Dragoonlordz wrote...

3DandBeyond wrote...

Dragoonlordz wrote...

Pointless poll, not a single person here even has slighest idea what in reality the next game will be like or contain. Voting in such a poll without any information on the next game to base a decision on makes all votes redundant (imho). They might release information about the next game that fills you with glee or contempt but at this time this question is pointless and would be better asked when the next game is in production and information released.

Actually, we do have a lot of information upon which to form an opinion as to our attitudes right now.  But most people do allow room to be convinced otherwise.  Like, you might say right now you'd buy it, but then if you saw it and it was way too happy and sappy for no good reason or if there was no story or if there was no shooting, you might decide not to buy it.  I have an opinion right now.  Mine is to wait and see, but tending toward not buying it. 

Definitely not pre-ordering and not buying until it's been out awhile with a lot of videos about it.  This is counter to how I usually like to play games-I don't want to see what they are all about.  But, I mostly feel that even then the decision will be tough because ME wasn't totally ruined until years and then gameplay hours after ME1 was released.  In my opinion.  So, they still could ruin a good ME4 in ME6.  And as yet ME3 only has a decent fanmade ending for me.  The same for a heck of a lot of people.

I disagree about this "a lot of information" you claim to have. Does any of this information actually tell you the story, the characters, the location of this next game? What about features and gameplay mechanics? The only thing you know is that Shepard will not be the protaganist according to Bioware. They do not even know if will be prequel or sequel yet and asking for what people want. Is this information you speak of merely assumptions then or just imaginary trends you percieve? Is this information related to the game at all or just how you feel about the developer or publisher? I am genuinely curious to know this  information you have, I want to see what it is too but only if relates to the actual game and not reliance on assumption.

The lot of information is the team working on it for one thing.  If you liked Omega and the story is less important then you might be more positive.  If MP and Omega are less than what you want in a game, then you might be more negative.  And considering how ME3 and all of this whole debacle was handled and who is at the helm, I'm not encouraged.  So, yes I have a lot of information.  And this all might make you happy, but it is not encouraging for me.  It's not assumption, but rather past acts and acts that have yet to be addressed in any meaningful way.  You disagree and are fine with the events, but not everyone sees it as you do.

Bottom line seems to be if you want more pew pew, you are likely to get it.  If you want a deep rich story well there's less to say that will happen.

As I said, opinions can change, but right now things don't look good to me.

[Dragoonlordz]

3DandBeyond wrote...

The lot of information is the team working on it for one thing.  If you liked Omega and the story is less important then you might be more positive.  If MP and Omega are less than what you want in a game, then you might be more negative.  And considering how ME3 and all of this whole debacle was handled and who is at the helm, I'm not encouraged.  So, yes I have a lot of information.  And this all might make you happy, but it is not encouraging for me.  It's not assumption, but rather past acts and acts that have yet to be addressed in any meaningful way.  You disagree and are fine with the events, but not everyone sees it as you do.

Bottom line seems to be if you want more pew pew, you are likely to get it.  If you want a deep rich story well there's less to say that will happen.

As I said, opinions can change, but right now things don't look good to me.

See I don't think that way. Take the information you say about team working on it I think that some days I might create bad map and some days I might create nice map but I have the potential to create either kind as does the team they (might) use for ME4. Second example wouldbe take DA2, the core game I thought was not great at all, they took onboard some of the things people said and with each DLC even though kept the original core title as was (did not remake to cater to everyones individual desires) the DLC was better handled and did better job with some of the elements. For DA3 except the still human protagnist and still voiced with paraphrasing, everything else they seem to be doing so far we know about is vastly better sounding than previous game. Lastly it is assumption, trending is assumption that nothing will change between x and y of which you do not have much of a trend if liked first 2 out of 3 games and of which I assume including potentially the majority of the third.

[3DandBeyond]

Dragoonlordz wrote...

3DandBeyond wrote...

The lot of information is the team working on it for one thing.  If you liked Omega and the story is less important then you might be more positive.  If MP and Omega are less than what you want in a game, then you might be more negative.  And considering how ME3 and all of this whole debacle was handled and who is at the helm, I'm not encouraged.  So, yes I have a lot of information.  And this all might make you happy, but it is not encouraging for me.  It's not assumption, but rather past acts and acts that have yet to be addressed in any meaningful way.  You disagree and are fine with the events, but not everyone sees it as you do.

Bottom line seems to be if you want more pew pew, you are likely to get it.  If you want a deep rich story well there's less to say that will happen.

As I said, opinions can change, but right now things don't look good to me.

See I don't think that way. Take the information you say about team working on it I think that some days I might create bad map and some days I might create nice map but I have the potential to create either kind as does the team they (might) use for ME4. Second example wouldbe take DA2, the core game I thought was not great at all, they took onboard some of the things people said and with each DLC even though kept the original core title as was (did not remake to cater to everyones individual desires) the DLC was better handled and did better job with some of the elements. For DA3 except the still human protagnist and still voiced with paraphrasing, everything else they seem to be doing so far we know about is vastly better sounding than previous game. Lastly it is assumption, trending is assumption that nothing will change between x and y of which you do not have much of a trend if liked first 2 out of 3 games and of which I assume including potentially the majority of the third.

I know you don't and I don't expect you to.  I said that was my opinion and opinions can change, but I have evidence that for me ME4 will not be a must buy.  I'm not expecting you to agree with me.  But trends can be predictors-unless said company can see they made errors.  You don't think they made errors.  I think they do.  So, which do they go with?  And even they cannot agree with themselves.  One dev says he knows some fans will be angry with ME3's ending, another says no one at Bioware expected fans to be angry and he says they'll do some things differently.  Well, they released the EC and basically stated there were no mistakes made, just fans that didn't understand things.  So, please do tell me what mistakes will they learn from to do things differently?  If they aren't open to even admitting the mistakes to themselves and indicate no understanding of this to fans, what's changed?  And if I think there are mistakes and you don't and you don't want anything changed for the mistakes I think they made, then which version will they work off of?

Consider this, what if the beginning of ME4 is a re-vamped effort for ME3, from Priority Earth on in which we learn that Shepard found more assets that were added to the crucible and the crucible is now just a dark energy weapon that makes the reapers vulnerable and beatable?  And as part of a prologue, we see the galaxy destroy the reapers, the geth and EDI alive and Shepard walks toward his/her LI that either through an imported save or decision maker in ME4, you get to choose.  Shepard's reality is that s/he helped Tali build a Rannoch home, had blue babies with Liara, helped Jack build her own biotic school, got pissing drunk with Garrus before going to Palaven to find his family or help rebuild, or adopted a child with Miranda and became a mentor for people whose lives had been upended by Cerberus, or some other such thing.  What if the beginning of ME4 is a total retcon of the ending of ME3 and it invalidates all that you just loved about those endings?  Would it change your opinion then?

I have zero expectations and that means it's not an automatic buy for me.  If and only if they return to the story being paramount and show and indicate that the characters are the important things and should not be forgotten, and if and only if they have some substantial way to show they "get" what many of us are saying, then it's a possible buy for me.  You see it differently and that's your right.  But unfortunately so far they've only shown me a pimple on their back sides.  I don't expect you to see this, but my opinion is BW has never believed they made any mistakes-they just think its a fan problem of not understanding things.  They can't conceive of people just not liking it, understanding it and not liking it.

Modifié par 3DandBeyond, 21 décembre 2012 - 11:41 .

[BSpud]

I doubt it, if my not caring enough to buy ME3 DLC is anything to go by. But I'll be open to fan reviews changing my mind when the day comes. And there could always be some mindblowing story tidbits released or leaked that could pique my hype (BW is going to have a tough hill to climb on that one, though).

[Photonkun]

Well, I'm saying it now that there won't be any pre-orders from me anymore.

Not even if they throw 3 cool looking weapons for your pre-order.

I've learned from my mistakes.

[FreshRevenge]

How can they have a ME4 when they still need to fix ME3? I am sorry but those choices at the end are just pathetic!

I thought I would be able to destroy the Reapers without destroying the Geth and Edi. I think they need to refocus their efforts in making the ending a lot better before they start on making a new game!

[Shepard108278]

LDS Darth Revan wrote...

Yes, I am. I love Mass Effect 1, Mass Effect 2, and Mass Effect 3, so why not Mass Effect 4.

Same here.

[Maniccc]

If it's a prequel? No.

Sequel? Possibly...on sale.... It's a long way away, but it depends on several things, like what future ME3 SP DLC they release, does ME4 end up with a tie-in to ME3's ending or not, etc.

If I do buy it, it'll probably only happen on a sale when I can pick it up for $20-30, or less, and that's assuming it gets great reviews from players

[Edolix]

I'm still not happy with that ending. If it's still in its current state by the time the DLC cycle for this game has finished, then I most likely won't be getting it.

[3DandBeyond]

FreshRevenge wrote...

How can they have a ME4 when they still need to fix ME3? I am sorry but those choices at the end are just pathetic!

I thought I would be able to destroy the Reapers without destroying the Geth and Edi. I think they need to refocus their efforts in making the ending a lot better before they start on making a new game!

This is the core issue.  I can't be sure they won't trash a new series as they did this one and as yet they have failed to finish this in a way that is acceptable to me (and I'm not alone in this).  It's about trusting them to do something worth my money.

[Shepard108278]

3DandBeyond wrote...

FreshRevenge wrote...

How can they have a ME4 when they still need to fix ME3? I am sorry but those choices at the end are just pathetic!

I thought I would be able to destroy the Reapers without destroying the Geth and Edi. I think they need to refocus their efforts in making the ending a lot better before they start on making a new game!

This is the core issue.  I can't be sure they won't trash a new series as they did this one and as yet they have failed to finish this in a way that is acceptable to me (and I'm not alone in this).  It's about trusting them to do something worth my money.

I don't agree. THey did fine with ME3 and I have faith they will do fine with ME 4 or whatever is next.

[sH0tgUn jUliA]

Well I've thought about it. If ME4 is the start of a new trilogy. I'll get ME4 if ME6 ends well. I'm not going to invest the emotion into the series like I did this last one. The trust just isn't there.

[The Spamming Troll]

AresKeith wrote...

Descy_ wrote...

Vic-TIM of Circumstance wrote...

Honestly it depends. I'm not going to commit on a game not even close to being finished, that's just foolish. We don't really know anything about it.

after playing fallout 3, ive been preordering pretty much everything bethesda makes. i got skyrim, dishonored, i skipped on rage tho.  im pretty confident in the quality of game im getting with bethesda.

bioware on the other hand is a developer i feel the opposite about. its the only developer ill question purchasing a game with. and theyll be easier and easier to pass up with the more and more crap bioware tries to sell. ill easily buy EA games, i like alot of EA games so i dont put any disfavore in that direction. ME1 in my opinion was a fluke by bioware. the rest of their games are all pretty mediocre.

Modifié par The Spamming Troll, 22 décembre 2012 - 12:32 .

[FreshRevenge]

sH0tgUn jUliA wrote...

Well I've thought about it. If ME4 is the start of a new trilogy. I'll get ME4 if ME6 ends well. I'm not going to invest the emotion into the series like I did this last one. The trust just isn't there.

That's funny just wait until the end of the trilogy is over before jumping in. I think a lot of fans could of spared themselves the agony of a bad ending if they didn't play from the beginning!