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[Maniccc]

sH0tgUn jUliA wrote...

Well I've thought about it. If ME4 is the start of a new trilogy. I'll get ME4 if ME6 ends well. I'm not going to invest the emotion into the series like I did this last one. The trust just isn't there.

This is where I'm at, too.  IF they make a trilogy/duology or whatever, not until after the whole thing is said and done would I consider it, and then only if the players/fans have lots of positive things to say.

I think they'll just make a one off, though, and I expect it to be a prequel.

[Mathias]

Maniccc wrote...

sH0tgUn jUliA wrote...

Well I've thought about it. If ME4 is the start of a new trilogy. I'll get ME4 if ME6 ends well. I'm not going to invest the emotion into the series like I did this last one. The trust just isn't there.

This is where I'm at, too.  IF they make a trilogy/duology or whatever, not until after the whole thing is said and done would I consider it, and then only if the players/fans have lots of positive things to say.

I think they'll just make a one off, though, and I expect it to be a prequel.

They would have to have an unfathomable amount of stupidity to even attempt to try and pull what they did with ME3 ever again. Assuming they're still around in 6-8 years where they complete a new trilogy, chances are they'd think harder this time, or at least play it safe.

Or one would think...

Modifié par Mdoggy1214, 22 décembre 2012 - 12:46 .

[3DandBeyond]

Shepard108278 wrote...

3DandBeyond wrote...

FreshRevenge wrote...

How can they have a ME4 when they still need to fix ME3? I am sorry but those choices at the end are just pathetic!

I thought I would be able to destroy the Reapers without destroying the Geth and Edi. I think they need to refocus their efforts in making the ending a lot better before they start on making a new game!

This is the core issue.  I can't be sure they won't trash a new series as they did this one and as yet they have failed to finish this in a way that is acceptable to me (and I'm not alone in this).  It's about trusting them to do something worth my money.

I don't agree. THey did fine with ME3 and I have faith they will do fine with ME 4 or whatever is next.

I said it is not acceptable to me so this is how I see it.  You have faith and as I've asked some, what about if they make an ME4 prologue that is everything I wanted to see at the end of ME3?  And that totally smashes what you liked about ME3.  Considering anything could happen, where's your faith then? I have lack of faith because of a lot of what they said, even after the EC was released and because they can't possibly be able to see and avoid problems they don't think ever existed.  But no matter what someone is going to be pissed.

The thing is if they disappoint me, then it's what I expect and so do a lot of other people.  But those who think they can do no wrong, if they do something I'd like, they most likely will be disappointed.  How do they still then have faith in Bioware?  I'm hoping for a debacle in which those who love ME3's ending will hate the beginning of ME4 that fixes ME3 and they can't complain about it, because of all the disgust they had for people that complained about ME3's ending.  It would be kind of funny.  This is my head canon and will never happen, so rest easy.

Modifié par 3DandBeyond, 22 décembre 2012 - 12:43 .

[Destr1er]

I have no faith in Bioware as a creative entity any longer. They have sold out and are now in the business of fleecing their loyal fans.

I will wait and see, most likely get it when it hits the bargain bin. Unless they can recapture the magic.

[N7 Lisbeth]

Unless Shepard returns as the main character, I'm not purchasing ME4.

[Targy90]

I'm not interested in prequels, the only thing I'd consider buying would be a sequel.

[Mr. Gogeta34]

If I buy ME4 it won't be through pre-order or at full price. Bioware has to earn that back and return to telling complete stories that don't end with huge plot holes/gaps/inconsistencies at even its basic levels.  Would also appreciate major contextual plot points not being sold as separate DLC at launch while still ending in a way that tells the player to 'image what happened to your character yourself.'

To be honest, I bought ME3 to 'see' how it would end... not speculate on how it ended (don't need to buy a game to do that).

Modifié par Mr. Gogeta34, 22 décembre 2012 - 05:06 .

[Dark_Caduceus]

Dridengx wrote...

Dark_Caduceus wrote...

Not unless it is free.

Sounds like you need a job. mcdonalds should meet your qaulifications

Dem "qaulifications".

[Dark_Caduceus]

Dridengx wrote...

Only a fool wouldn't pick up Mass Effect 4. It's a brand new character, new everything. Even if you are left bitter it's new! 33% of people who took that poll shouldn't even be here lol but they continue to be here almost a YEAR later and will continue, and will also continue to purchase the next Mass Effect because no matter how disappointed they claim to be, they are addicted because they know, no other franchise or company has this much customization and choice. They are more guaranteed to buy future games because they can't help themselves and they prove it by remaining here posting negative rants months after a game is released.

The rest of the world has moved on to other new games and anticipating upcoming games yet these individuals remain dwelling.

What customization or choice? We made choices, which barely impacted anything until the very end of the game, and even then they were literally labelled "Red", "Blue", and "Green". Customization? Mass Effect 1 created the illusion of customization, Mass Effect 2 barely had any, and Mass Effect 3 (finally) has some decent customization but a great deal of it wasn't even consistent with the established lore (barrel length=more damaging projectiles... what?).

It won't be a new character, or new "everything" (which is pretty much impossible) because guess what? Your vaunted Bioware/EA makes formulaic games. Don't believe me? Take a look at this:

infothread.org/Video%20Games%20and%20Gaming/BioWare%20Cliche%20Chart.png

Now, there isn't anything necessarily wrong with developing a good formula and sticking to it, but saying "everything" will be new seems like the epitome (or rock bottom?) of group-think and denial. More than likely we will have another rushed out the door title, which seems somewhat above average on the surface and makes everyone who pays any attention to detail and story scratch their heads (i.e- not you).

[Shepard108278]

sH0tgUn jUliA wrote...

Well I've thought about it. If ME4 is the start of a new trilogy. I'll get ME4 if ME6 ends well. I'm not going to invest the emotion into the series like I did this last one. The trust just isn't there.

Sorry you feel that way me I have complete faith in Bioware.

Modifié par Shepard108278, 22 décembre 2012 - 06:04 .

[Shepard108278]

3DandBeyond wrote...

Shepard108278 wrote...

3DandBeyond wrote...

FreshRevenge wrote...

How can they have a ME4 when they still need to fix ME3? I am sorry but those choices at the end are just pathetic!

I thought I would be able to destroy the Reapers without destroying the Geth and Edi. I think they need to refocus their efforts in making the ending a lot better before they start on making a new game!

This is the core issue.  I can't be sure they won't trash a new series as they did this one and as yet they have failed to finish this in a way that is acceptable to me (and I'm not alone in this).  It's about trusting them to do something worth my money.

I don't agree. THey did fine with ME3 and I have faith they will do fine with ME 4 or whatever is next.

I said it is not acceptable to me so this is how I see it.  You have faith and as I've asked some, what about if they make an ME4 prologue that is everything I wanted to see at the end of ME3?  And that totally smashes what you liked about ME3.  Considering anything could happen, where's your faith then? I have lack of faith because of a lot of what they said, even after the EC was released and because they can't possibly be able to see and avoid problems they don't think ever existed.  But no matter what someone is going to be pissed.

The thing is if they disappoint me, then it's what I expect and so do a lot of other people.  But those who think they can do no wrong, if they do something I'd like, they most likely will be disappointed.  How do they still then have faith in Bioware?  I'm hoping for a debacle in which those who love ME3's ending will hate the beginning of ME4 that fixes ME3 and they can't complain about it, because of all the disgust they had for people that complained about ME3's ending.  It would be kind of funny.  This is my head canon and will never happen, so rest easy.

Your right on one point. No matter what they do someone will hate it.

[Archonsg]

Farcry 3 is shaping up very well as a Shooter RPG. With a story and ending that ls more than decent.

Bioware is being out Biowared, which is kinda sad when you come to think of it.

[CR121691]

Yes. Day one pre order.

[Kalas Magnus]

 Yes, I luv biower.

[OnyxFuego]

Seems like a lot of people are burned out over the ME3 ending. Does anyone want ME3-2: Sheppard Returns?

Seriously, the next game is going to be a next gen console game so you'll have to invest in either a new graphics card if you are pc or a new XStation420. There is the price of that investment to consider.

That being said, running on a new game engine along with new hardware is going to require that this game is big budget. I'm expecting a sick trailer to entice people and decent pre order bonuses. So to answer the question, yes. I'm totally going to get the next game.

I can see people waiting to for the all 3 games to come out first before playing them. That's easily a 6-8 year wait. That wouldn't really work for me because I'd like to get hype for the next game after I'm done with the first game. Waiting to play all of the games in succession like that would be too much of a time commitment consecutively in my adult life. I'd rather span it out as they come along.

Plus, I may not even make it though the first game (looking at you FF12) so waiting for all of them to get released and then being pissed off about the first game sucking so bad that I wasted time and hype waiting for it is not something I'd look forward to. I'd rather find out I'm not going to like it earlier than later if that's will be the case.

I guess I'll just wait and see.

What's the ETA Q2 2014?

[AlanC9]

OnyxFuego wrote...

Seems like a lot of people are burned out over the ME3 ending. Does anyone want ME3-2: Sheppard Returns?
 

Is there a Kickstarter equivalent for paying a company to not make stuff? I'd put in $20 or so to stop that.

[chidingewe8036]

Shepard's Return - YES YES YES YES NO DOUBT

No Shepard - HEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEELL NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Bioware - "no more Shepard"

Me - "well that is one fan down plenty more to go chumps"

[PinkysPain]

If it's a sequel and has multiplayer I'll get it ... if it's a pre/mid/inter-quel I won't get it.

I'm not going to reward Mac and Casey for burning down the house as they left in their fit of artistic integrity ... either Casey eats crow and makes a sequel or no money from me.

Modifié par PinkysPain, 23 décembre 2012 - 12:49 .

[IscrewTali]

ME3 was way overhyped by the fans, bioware and ea. Too much info given out too early, which resulted in blowbacks when the game was finalized and it wasnt as promised.

It's fine to give out some info here and there to sate the fans and encourage pre orders, but saying there are 16 endings all vastly different from each other when it isnt true, hurts both the fans and the companies. Then people express their disappointment, making bw/ea look bad.

So far we know it will be on the frostibte 2 engine(good), we know Shepard's story is done, giving room for new stories(good), its a fairly safe assumption to say that Mac Walters is involved(bad), bw still under ea's tyranny(bad).

What will i do? Ill wait untill release to see if a massive fan rage breaks loose before i decide.

[Xa1u5]

Since they demonstrated their incompetence to continue the franchise with ME3 ... never ever...

[The_Other_M]

sH0tgUn jUliA wrote...

Well I've thought about it. If ME4 is the start of a new trilogy. I'll get ME4 if ME6 ends well. I'm not going to invest the emotion into the series like I did this last one. The trust just isn't there.

^^Hmmm, that's not a bad idea....

[MacroSpamMK]

They aren't going to remake Mass Effect 3 because to many people (I am among them), Mass Effect 3 wasn't bad and whilst the endings weren't that great, they weren't going to ruin the whole game for me.

Also brb, going to make a decision about a game I've heard nothing about.

[3DandBeyond]

Shepard108278 wrote...

sH0tgUn jUliA wrote...

Well I've thought about it. If ME4 is the start of a new trilogy. I'll get ME4 if ME6 ends well. I'm not going to invest the emotion into the series like I did this last one. The trust just isn't there.

Sorry you feel that way me I have complete faith in Bioware.

Well, in order for me to have that faith, it would have to be even wilder than blind faith.  I'd have to totally ignore all that they've said (MP not needed for SP, the galaxy will be a wasteland postME3-oh, where did people get the idea the galaxy would be destroyed, no ABC ending, the endings will be so varied it will be like no two people are playing the same game, choices matter, you don't condemn a race to extinction based upon what might happen, ME3 is the perfect entry point into the series and it will be like who cares if you romanced someone-it's all out war, you won't even care what happened in the other 2 games and who'd remember that, anyway-I can't remember something that happened 8 years ago, choices matter, all of the player's questions will be answered at the end, and more). 

I can't forget how they considered us all to be too dim to understand what the original endings were about-that we needed clarification (that is for something that is unclear to the viewer, yet most of us understood what the choices meant just fine) and closure (something they patently did not even provide).  And upon release and on twitter, they kept saying (implying) it was the fans' problem and not their own.  Faith, good for you.  I have faith in some things based upon either past good experiences or blind faith when my heart knows something my head may not.  But when someone appears intent upon smashing trust and faith, I figure they don't want it so I don't give it.

The difference between you and I is that I have faith that they could do something great, but you believe the facts prove that they will do something great.  They have shown me they are in some crucial moments unable to follow through on what they could do and I believe you ignore much of their past behavior.  I have no reason why, but I think it's a choice that a lot of people make.  They don't think hype should have to be lived up to-even when it exists to get people to pre-order and when it's found to be untrue.  I believe that unfulfilled hype is a lie.  I don't trust or have faith when people do that.  It's not hate-it's reality.  There's a vast difference between what they could do and what they've shown themselves to be willing to do.  And to top it off they seem very willing to say anything in order to bridge that gap.  I want to have faith, but like trust it now has to be earned.  I never said I wouldn't buy, but for me there are conditions. 

[3DandBeyond]

AlanC9 wrote...

OnyxFuego wrote...

Seems like a lot of people are burned out over the ME3 ending. Does anyone want ME3-2: Sheppard Returns?
 

Is there a Kickstarter equivalent for paying a company to not make stuff? I'd put in $20 or so to stop that.

Makes me wish they were really intending to bring Shepard back all along.