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[Ledgend1221]

I like it much better now.

[Ryan Torant]

redBadger14 wrote...

Ryan Torant wrote...

redBadger14 wrote...

Ryan Torant wrote...

redBadger14 wrote...

OP you must suck at the game.

Acolyte was always meant to wipe out enemy shields/barriers. The revert back to charge up and previous damage hardly did anything. I used the Acolyte yesterday on Platinum, it still wipes out barriers and shields easily. And if you actually know how to use it, you account for the charge-up time and shoot it from a safe distance.

So, quit whining and learn2play.

Im so hurt, Im really am *cry*cry*
 "previous damage hardly did anything" And im the one that sucks. 

Let me teach you proper reading comprehension.

"The revert back to charge up and previous damage hardly did anything."

This is saying the Acolyte revert from yesterday hardly affected its effectiveness. Thus, it is still good.

Good lord, the idiocy here.

I saw what you wrote before the edit turned south, so let me say this...

I realize that your OP was a sh*tstorm, but you should have just removed it completely. However, I apologize for being abrasive.

That being said, yes, the damage after all the buffs was great, but the Acolyte is still very effective after everything has been reverted. Not sure what level your Acolyte is, but I have an Acolyte X and I can strip Banshee barriers in two shots, Atlas shields about two-to-three shots, Primes about two-three shots, and Praetorians two-to-three shots. If you aim well and keep your distance, you can easily account for the charge-up time and travel speed/drop-off. Smaller enemies with shields and barriers usually just take one hit from the Acolyte to take them out. In fact, the damage loss from the revert is negligible. 

I think we are not in the same page. Im not talkig about the damage, I never said anything about the damage. I think that the damage is perfect. The only thing i hate is not beeing able to shoot when i pull the trigger. That delay killed me a lot when the gun first came out, so i rarely used it. Then they change it, and i used it in like every adept or class without shield stripping abilities. Now that they are back to the charge, i have to switch to the hurricane or the talon.

[Ashen One]

Without the charge the gun was a total noob tube.

I'm glad they reverted it.

[Ryan Torant]

Ashen Earth wrote...

Without the charge the gun was a total noob tube.

I'm glad they reverted it.

And what is your problem with that? it affects you? is this a pvp game? do you get more points if YOU kill more?
The answers : no, no,no,and NO.

[ASSUMINGDIRECTC0NTR0L]

It was overused. Glad they changed it back to the way it was. Also, it should have been reverted back to its original state much sooner since changing it did not prevent people from glitching.

[Ashen One]

Ryan Torant wrote...

Ashen Earth wrote...

Without the charge the gun was a total noob tube.

I'm glad they reverted it.

And what is your problem with that? it affects you? is this a pvp game? do you get more points if YOU kill more?
The answers : no, no,no,and NO.

The scoreboard is everything, and now the noobs won't be able to keep up with me.

Go back to bronze scrub

[Ashen One]

Lord_Sirian wrote...

Ashen Earth wrote...

Without the charge the gun was a total noob tube.

I'm glad they reverted it.

 

It also wasn't as good as before. (I mean without the charge it wasn't as good as it was with) :|

I don't like it much either way. Doesn't bother me.

Yeah, because it actually has a faster RoF now and no annoying delay before you can reload it.

People are complaining about a buff.

[Ryan Torant]

Ashen Earth wrote...

Ryan Torant wrote...

Ashen Earth wrote...

Without the charge the gun was a total noob tube.

I'm glad they reverted it.

And what is your problem with that? it affects you? is this a pvp game? do you get more points if YOU kill more?
The answers : no, no,no,and NO.

The scoreboard is everything, and now the noobs won't be able to keep up with me.

Go back to bronze scrub

You appear to be a poor litle man/woman. "The scoreboard is everything" In a CO-OP game? Get a life.

[TheCandlejack]

Ashen Earth wrote...

Ryan Torant wrote...

Ashen Earth wrote...

Without the charge the gun was a total noob tube.

I'm glad they reverted it.

And what is your problem with that? it affects you? is this a pvp game? do you get more points if YOU kill more?
The answers : no, no,no,and NO.

The scoreboard is everything, and now the noobs won't be able to keep up with me.

Go back to bronze scrub

 Nice

[TheCandlejack]

Ryan Torant wrote...

Ashen Earth wrote...

Ryan Torant wrote...

Ashen Earth wrote...

Without the charge the gun was a total noob tube.

I'm glad they reverted it.

And what is your problem with that? it affects you? is this a pvp game? do you get more points if YOU kill more?
The answers : no, no,no,and NO.

The scoreboard is everything, and now the noobs won't be able to keep up with me.

Go back to bronze scrub

You appear to be a poor litle man/woman. "The scoreboard is everything" In a CO-OP game? Get a life.

It's called sarcasm OP, try it. Also, if he had no life, he wouldn't be alive =P

[Ryan Torant]

Ashen Earth wrote...

Lord_Sirian wrote...

Ashen Earth wrote...

Without the charge the gun was a total noob tube.

I'm glad they reverted it.

 

It also wasn't as good as before. (I mean without the charge it wasn't as good as it was with) :|

I don't like it much either way. Doesn't bother me.

Yeah, because it actually has a faster RoF now and no annoying delay before you can reload it.

People are complaining about a buff.

I dosent shoot when you press the button. Thats the problem and nothing else.

[elamo73]

Completely agree, you should be able to build your Asari adepts to fit the powers you want to play with and not as support for the gun you going to use.

[Ryan Torant]

TheCandlejack wrote...

Ryan Torant wrote...

Ashen Earth wrote...

Ryan Torant wrote...

Ashen Earth wrote...

Without the charge the gun was a total noob tube.

I'm glad they reverted it.

And what is your problem with that? it affects you? is this a pvp game? do you get more points if YOU kill more?
The answers : no, no,no,and NO.

The scoreboard is everything, and now the noobs won't be able to keep up with me.

Go back to bronze scrub

You appear to be a poor litle man/woman. "The scoreboard is everything" In a CO-OP game? Get a life.

It's called sarcasm OP, try it. Also, if he had no life, he wouldn't be alive =P

It might be sarcasm, it might be not. You never know in the extranet.

Modifié par Ryan Torant, 20 décembre 2012 - 05:13 .

[Ashen One]

Ryan Torant wrote...

Ashen Earth wrote...

Lord_Sirian wrote...

Ashen Earth wrote...

Without the charge the gun was a total noob tube.

I'm glad they reverted it.

 

It also wasn't as good as before. (I mean without the charge it wasn't as good as it was with) :|

I don't like it much either way. Doesn't bother me.

Yeah, because it actually has a faster RoF now and no annoying delay before you can reload it.

People are complaining about a buff.

I dosent shoot when you press the button. Thats the problem and nothing else.

The problem is you.

Because why actually learn how to use the weapon in the way it was intended to be used, when you can just complain about it instead?

[TheCandlejack]

Ryan Torant wrote...

TheCandlejack wrote...

Ryan Torant wrote...

Ashen Earth wrote...

Ryan Torant wrote...

Ashen Earth wrote...

Without the charge the gun was a total noob tube.

I'm glad they reverted it.

And what is your problem with that? it affects you? is this a pvp game? do you get more points if YOU kill more?
The answers : no, no,no,and NO.

The scoreboard is everything, and now the noobs won't be able to keep up with me.

Go back to bronze scrub

You appear to be a poor litle man/woman. "The scoreboard is everything" In a CO-OP game? Get a life.

It's called sarcasm OP, try it. Also, if he had no life, he wouldn't be alive =P

It might be sarcasm, it might be not. You never know in the extranet.

It is sarcasm, I've talked and played with Ashen before.

[Najarati]

The Acolyte did its job just fine in either form--stripped barriers/shields. What's aggravating about the charged version is having to keep your head out of cover to charge the weapon and then fire. This isn't too bad when few enemies are on the field, but when you're in a heavy firefight you want to get shots off with as little exposure time as possible, particularly when you’re one of the squishier classes. Soft cover mitigates this to a degree, but it's not always optimal compared to hard cover--no damage reduction and seeking shots (like the Prime's blasts) can still arc and hit you.

Before I could "quick-scope" the Acolyte, launch a Cryoblast, and duck down in the time it takes me to charge the current Acolyte. Many times a rocket or rifle shot strikes my cover immediately after doing this; meaning, had I been up any longer (say to charge the Acolyte) I would have taken the attack to the face rather than avoiding it and having a frozen target (or targets) waiting for me to quick-scope and Incinerate (and presumeably cryo explode).

That said, the biggest downside to the -chargeless- Acolyte for me was when I wanted to change weapons--quite a noticeable pause there. However, I could do that from behind cover. Also, I'm not sure why some people have an aversion to hard cover (other than getting glued to it at an inopportune time). You can still slide along it as well as slide around corners without exposing yourself so the mobility is still there.

[SilentStep79]

i was fine with the original charge.
i learned to be okay without the charge.
for the third time i'm relearning this gun.
BW, make up your minds this is getting old.
gonna take more than f****** with this gun to stop missile glitchers.

[TheCandlejack]

Lord_Sirian wrote...

Ryan Torant wrote...

TheCandlejack wrote...

Ryan Torant wrote...

Ashen Earth wrote...

Ryan Torant wrote...

Ashen Earth wrote...

Without the charge the gun was a total noob tube.

I'm glad they reverted it.

And what is your problem with that? it affects you? is this a pvp game? do you get more points if YOU kill more?
The answers : no, no,no,and NO.

The scoreboard is everything, and now the noobs won't be able to keep up with me.

Go back to bronze scrub

You appear to be a poor litle man/woman. "The scoreboard is everything" In a CO-OP game? Get a life.

It's called sarcasm OP, try it. Also, if he had no life, he wouldn't be alive =P

It might be sarcasm, it might be not. You never know in the extranet.

 

It is sarcasm. When it's that blatant and obvious you can't even invoke Poe's Law, sorry.

Not sure if OP knows what that is. He's one of the denser ones we've met.

[Ryan Torant]

Lord_Sirian wrote...

Ryan Torant wrote...

TheCandlejack wrote...

Ryan Torant wrote...

Ashen Earth wrote...

Ryan Torant wrote...

Ashen Earth wrote...

Without the charge the gun was a total noob tube.

I'm glad they reverted it.

And what is your problem with that? it affects you? is this a pvp game? do you get more points if YOU kill more?
The answers : no, no,no,and NO.

The scoreboard is everything, and now the noobs won't be able to keep up with me.

Go back to bronze scrub

You appear to be a poor litle man/woman. "The scoreboard is everything" In a CO-OP game? Get a life.

It's called sarcasm OP, try it. Also, if he had no life, he wouldn't be alive =P

It might be sarcasm, it might be not. You never know in the extranet.

 

It is sarcasm. When it's that blatant and obvious you can't even invoke Poe's Law, sorry.

Facts: I dont know the guy, English is not my natural language.
Anyway, if it was sarcasm, i take it partialy back. I'm still yet to find a reasonable argument about why it is bad if the gun is noob-friendly in this game. I understand it in a PVP, for example, i hate in World of Tanks when some noob in my team with a kv-2 belives hes/shes invisible with the derp and dies in the first minute, but I dont understand it in me.
PS: i didnt knew about poe's law, but a quick search provided the info.

Modifié par Ryan Torant, 20 décembre 2012 - 05:24 .

[Eriseley]

Because coop doesn't automatically mean Borderlands lollerskates i mash hed on keybord we win herp, some people still want the game to present some challenge.

[Ryan Torant]

Eriseley wrote...

Because coop doesn't automatically mean Borderlands lollerskates i mash hed on keybord we win herp, some people still want the game to present some challenge.

If you want challange, dont use it. Simple as that.

[Ashen One]

Ryan Torant wrote...

Facts: I dont know the guy, English is not my natural language.
Anyway, it it was sarcasm, i take it partialy back. I'm still yet to find a reasonable argument about why it is bad if the gun is noob-friendly in this game. I understand it in a PVP, for example, i hate in World of Tanks when some noob in my team with a kv-2 belives hes/shes invisible with the derp and dies in the first minute.

When everyone plays the same class, fights the same enemies on the same maps using the same weapons the game gets boring very quickly.

All rare weapons should be competitive with one another in terms of usefulness & utility because it promotes variety. What's the point of having all of these different guns when one is objectively better than the rest in it's class? The Acolyte without the charge function was incredibly easy to use and the kind of power/utility that comes with the Acolyte should have some drawback... like the charge feature. Without a drawback, the gun becomes hilariously unbalanced in comparision to other weapons.

Next you'll post a thread asking for the removal of the PPR's charge up time, and 600 base spare ammo capacity for the Harrier.

Modifié par Ashen Earth, 20 décembre 2012 - 05:28 .

[Poison_Berrie]

Ryan Torant wrote...

I'm still yet to find a reasonable argument about why it is bad if the gun is noob-friendly in this game. I understand it in a PVP, for example, i hate in World of Tanks when some noob in my team with a kv-2 belives hes/shes invisible with the derp and dies in the first minute.

Because the Falcon and the Scorpion. 

I find RoF or DPS isn't as important and generally lackluster on these explosive weapons, they generally fulfil a utility role by staggering, applying ammo and damaging multiple enemies. To keep them staggered timing is more important. 
As such the increased DPS of the Scorpion holds little to the better ammo application and ease of use of the Acolyte. Meanwhile the Falcon is outclassed in everything, but AoE.