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#201
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please remove the charge time. now i hate the acolyte just like i hated it before...

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elamo73 wrote...

Eriseley wrote...

I'm confused how the change specifically affects asari adepts.


I like having the choice of ranking my adepts depending on the way I use their powers, for example love the justicar's Pull then Reave combo, in gold and platinum games if you find yourself without team support and being rushed by shielded enemies you're best choice would be to run, making the Asari adepts too dependant.  Not to mention doing solo gold and platinum games, I like my character to be able to give and take in a straight up fight, but you can't do that from cover.

Oh, and yes I know you can use biotic sphere then draw them in, bu I want to use pull.  It's about choice.

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I actually prefer the charge myself...

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CYB3RFR34K wrote...

please remove the charge time. now i hate the acolyte just like i hated it before...

keep the hate flowing.  maybe if enough people keep their nonsensical whining up, it will acutally get a damage buff:O

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Dilandau3000 wrote...

The Acolyte's charge only takes 1 second. If you get used to it, you can actually get a higher fire rate now than when the charge was removed. Putting the charge back also removes the delay before reloading, makes it possible to fire it under cloak without breaking cloak, and makes it possible to fire it while running.

Charge is harder to use, but it's not purely a disadvantage.



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I love it with the charge. I was using it heavily when it first came out, still do. Still the best pistol for shield/barrier stripping.

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ok this is going nowhere. can anyone point me in how to make a poll? I would like to, and think is the best, a poll about keeping the charge, taking it out, or allowing charged/uncharged, ala arc pistol.

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I'm happy with the buff, andokay with the charge again, but can we get the limit raised back to 5 before reload

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anyone knows how to make polls?

#210
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My complaint about acolyte needing to be charged is ... My trigger finger gets cramped .... Had to stop playing after 1 match because of this medical issue.

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It would be nice if it had both fire modes with slight changes.

Regular Shot- Low damage & low chance to stagger.
Charged Shot- High damage & high chance to stagger.

Don't care about the whole "casual & pro" argument, I would just like to see it regain it's usage of the past couple of weeks- where more and more random players were willing to take it along to strip shields and barriers off enemies.

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To make a poll go to the My Content tab in the top left, I think.

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tyhw wrote...

Ashen Earth wrote...

Lord_Sirian wrote...

Gonna be posting an all Acolyte GI run (probably tomorrow).

Don't hate on my build you elitist DB. It's beastly.


I'll just be over here with my Javelin, Piranha, Harrier, Particle Rifle, Claymore, Raider, and Black Widow :whistle:


You forgot the Hurricane and the Talon.


Better suited to casters imo, but I sometimes use those as sidearms to sniper rifles.

A Talon isn't going to incinerate an entire spawn like the Particle Rifle.

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Ashen Earth wrote...

tyhw wrote...

Ashen Earth wrote...

Lord_Sirian wrote...

Gonna be posting an all Acolyte GI run (probably tomorrow).

Don't hate on my build you elitist DB. It's beastly.


I'll just be over here with my Javelin, Piranha, Harrier, Particle Rifle, Claymore, Raider, and Black Widow :whistle:


You forgot the Hurricane and the Talon.


Better suited to casters imo, but I sometimes use those as sidearms to sniper rifles.

A Talon isn't going to incinerate an entire spawn like the Particle Rifle.

 

lol.

Maybe not on console.

On PC the Hurricane and Talon are easily two of the best choices for the GI. In CQC the Talon is basically a 7 shot Claymore with a faster reload (you can one shot any non-boss in the game, as well as things like Ravagers etc.) and takes down bosses at incredible speeds too.

And the Hurricane just shreds everything, with good aim and recoil control it's arguably the best choice for the GI.

Modifié par Lord_Sirian, 20 décembre 2012 - 07:27 .


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Ryan Torant wrote...

anyone knows how to make polls?

Go to the Polls tab at the top of the page. Everything should be clear from there.

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born2beagator wrote...

CYB3RFR34K wrote...

please remove the charge time. now i hate the acolyte just like i hated it before...

keep the hate flowing.  maybe if enough people keep their nonsensical whining up, it will acutally get a damage buff:O


Just like all the "nonsensical whining" that was done to get the charge restored...... hypocrites:D.

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wes60620 wrote...

born2beagator wrote...

CYB3RFR34K wrote...

please remove the charge time. now i hate the acolyte just like i hated it before...

keep the hate flowing.  maybe if enough people keep their nonsensical whining up, it will acutally get a damage buff:O


Just like all the "nonsensical whining" that was done to get the charge restored...... hypocrites:D.

 

It wasn't nonsensical whining. It was pointing out the fact that changing how a weapon functioned to stop missile glitchers would be all well and good if missile glitching actually stopped when the Acolyte was changed. It was NOT.

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Eriseley wrote...

I'm confused how the change specifically affects asari adepts.

Honestly it does not affect them at all, because it was always inferior compared to Paladin/Carnifex/Viper on them.
It is useful when you are the last survivor and there is nothing but Atlas/Primes left on Platinum, so you might use Viper+Acolyte, but aside from that situation it never was worth using.

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No. It's so much better this way and now takes skill to use, And doesen't lock you into reloading, And you can fire it on the run.

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Lord_Sirian wrote...

Ashen Earth wrote...

tyhw wrote...

Ashen Earth wrote...

Lord_Sirian wrote...

Gonna be posting an all Acolyte GI run (probably tomorrow).

Don't hate on my build you elitist DB. It's beastly.


I'll just be over here with my Javelin, Piranha, Harrier, Particle Rifle, Claymore, Raider, and Black Widow :whistle:


You forgot the Hurricane and the Talon.


Better suited to casters imo, but I sometimes use those as sidearms to sniper rifles.

A Talon isn't going to incinerate an entire spawn like the Particle Rifle.

 

lol.

Maybe not on console.

On PC the Hurricane and Talon are easily two of the best choices for the GI. In CQC the Talon is basically a 7 shot Claymore with a faster reload (you can one shot any non-boss in the game, as well as things like Ravagers etc.) and takes down bosses at incredible speeds too.

And the Hurricane just shreds everything, with good aim and recoil control it's arguably the best choice for the GI.


Your false assumption that I would find it difficult to use a Hurricane or Talon with an Xbox controller is cute. We get it already, headshots are EZ mode on PC.

But really, neither of those weapons are even competition for a fully amped up Particle Rifle with Incendiary ammo IV and all of the GI's absurd weapon bonuses. 

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Ashen Earth wrote...

Lord_Sirian wrote...

Ashen Earth wrote...

tyhw wrote...

Ashen Earth wrote...

Lord_Sirian wrote...

Gonna be posting an all Acolyte GI run (probably tomorrow).

Don't hate on my build you elitist DB. It's beastly.


I'll just be over here with my Javelin, Piranha, Harrier, Particle Rifle, Claymore, Raider, and Black Widow :whistle:


You forgot the Hurricane and the Talon.


Better suited to casters imo, but I sometimes use those as sidearms to sniper rifles.

A Talon isn't going to incinerate an entire spawn like the Particle Rifle.

 

lol.

Maybe not on console.

On PC the Hurricane and Talon are easily two of the best choices for the GI. In CQC the Talon is basically a 7 shot Claymore with a faster reload (you can one shot any non-boss in the game, as well as things like Ravagers etc.) and takes down bosses at incredible speeds too.

And the Hurricane just shreds everything, with good aim and recoil control it's arguably the best choice for the GI.


Your false assumption that I would find it difficult to use a Hurricane or Talon with an Xbox controller is cute. We get it already, headshots are EZ mode on PC.

But really, neither of those weapons are even competition for a fully amped up Particle Rifle with Incendiary ammo IV and all of the GI's absurd weapon bonuses. 



 

If it's not a case of them being harder to use properly on xbox (no matter what you say xbox players CANNOT kill as fast as PC players, the horrible controls make sure of that), then the fact that you think of them as "caster weapons" is rather odd. Makes me think you haven't bothered to try them.

I kill just as quickly with a Talon/Hurricane as I do with a PPR. If not more quickly.

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Ashen Earth wrote...

Your false assumption that I would find it difficult to use a Hurricane or Talon with an Xbox controller is cute. We get it already, headshots are EZ mode on PC.

But really, neither of those weapons are even competition for a fully amped up Particle Rifle with Incendiary ammo IV and all of the GI's absurd weapon bonuses. 




Well, maybe not for a fully amped PPR.  But both are arguably better overall, and definitely better than the Claymore, Piranha, Harrier, or BW.  I'd put both ahead of the Raider and Javelin as well

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Lord_Sirian wrote...

On PC the Hurricane and Talon are easily two of the best choices for the GI. In CQC the Talon is basically a 7 shot Claymore with a faster reload (you can one shot any non-boss in the game, as well as things like Ravagers etc.) and takes down bosses at incredible speeds too.

And the Hurricane just shreds everything, with good aim and recoil control it's arguably the best choice for the GI.


FINALLY!

I thought I was the only one who used these type of weapons on a Infiltrator...
It's good there's those who know what they're talking about from Experience.

also: Paladin is another good choice of weapon (though mine is level X) so yes, it's very powerful.

Claymore will always be The Choice of Weapon for all classes

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N7Dropout1 wrote...

Seriously, I've come to notice only the top hardcore players and trolls like this change. I think it was a monumentally bad decision to nerf it(and yes, it is a hard nerf).

The excuse about rocket glitching being the factor is so inane and stupid. Yeah, right. Bioware's just mad everyone was using this gun to even the playing field against phantoms, which are their top mary-sue enemy unit.


Well, I'm not a hardcore player, but I do like the charge mechanic. It synergizes with powers beautifully. Just keep it charged all the time and fire a power and the acolyte at the same time. It will destroy everything in your path.

Once you learn to use it, you will see that it works.

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Whoa whoa, Talon GI is freaking amazing. A fully amped up PPR might be just as good but it's not fully amped up all the time. Sorta like Sirian said, it feels like a 7-shot wraith on a GI, except it fires faster.