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[mousestalker]

Please note that I really do not recommend doing the following. But it seems as though someone asks how to level up quickly or get loads of cash quickly with some regularity. Here's how to do it in all versions without using cheat codes or corrupting your saved games.

Method One (Lothering)

This requires the traps skill at level 1 or higher. If you want both experience and cash, find Allison in Lothering. She wants traps. She will pay 50 silver for three. Belin in the tavern sells trap triggers in stacks of 99. Buy the triggers, make them into spring traps and sell them to Allison in stacks of three.

If you have no fear of carpal tunnel and are numb to boredom you can level yourself to twenty five doing this. You will also make a great deal of cash. This method works only so long as Lothering is available.

Method Two (crafting for profit)

This requires Herbalism at maximum. You can sell Potent Lyrium Potions at a profit. For maximum gain buy the flasks in Orzimmar from Figor. Buy the lyrium dust from the Quartermaster in the Circle Tower. Buy the other two ingredients from the bartender in the Gnawed Noble Tavern in Denerim. You may sell the potions to any merchant.

If your origin was Dwarf Noble, selling the potions to Gorim in the Denerim market will yield an even greater profit.

Method Three (cheap experience)

After you have finished the Nature of the Beast Quest if you defeated or cured the werewolves then you can buy unlimited stacks of elfroot from Varathorn in the Brecilian outskirts. Turn them into the Allied Supply Chest in your party camp for quick experience.

All three methods work. They are also mind-numbingly dull and repetitive. You really don't need to do any of them ever.

Caveat lector.

[Frogman1975]

This is actually really informative and helpful. Mind numbingly dull to perform, yes... but if you JUST need a few extra coin or another level to get a skill, this could be useful info to put you over the edge (especially options two and three).

[Kruso]

Well, instead of method three you can give gold to the Allied Supply Chest (the soldiers of Redcliffe use it to buy food/equipment or something). I think 30 sovereigns gives you 750 exp.

Another cheat to get money is the "buy/sell back and so forth-cheat".

[Paldarion]

Or you can just use the console

[Gaidren]

Paldarion wrote...

Or you can just use the console

This.

I always find it amusing that people will abuse exploits to get gold/xp and feel much better about it than they would if they had just used the console commands to conjure up some gold, despite the latter method being much quicker. 

[Bibdy]

Well in that case, you're kind of 'working' for it. Its always about the journey, not the destination. If that journey just happens to be HOURS of running back and forth buying/selling stuff, so be it. Humans are weird like that.

[mousestalker]

There are some good reasons not to use the console commands. If you do not have a PC, you can't for example. I suppose roleplaying a master merchant is another.



I put this up for easy future reference for other players. At this point I think I've had every bit of possible equipment on one character or another.

[soteria]

Gaidren wrote...

Paldarion wrote...

Or you can just use the console

This.

I always find it amusing that people will abuse exploits to get gold/xp and feel much better about it than they would if they had just used the console commands to conjure up some gold, despite the latter method being much quicker. 

And I always find it amusing that some people think that cheating to achieve results and working to achieve results are equivalent.  As others have expressed, there's more at stake than just the results.  I mean, I could use the console to to kill the high dragon instantly, or I could use sound tactics and kill it normally.  Why would I want to do it the slow way?!

[knownastherat]

soteria wrote...
  Why would I want to do it the slow way?!

Because it is fun?

Try to make enough Potent Lyrium potions to earn 1000-2000g, and if you find it fun it is none of my business.

[They call me a SpaceCowboy]

Re method 2. Thanks for this. I had heard about this but calculated the prices based on the camp merchant and found out you actually lose money.

[mousestalker]

Shinian2 wrote...

Re method 2. Thanks for this. I had heard about this but calculated the prices based on the camp merchant and found out you actually lose money.

You're welcome.

One of the minor points I love about the game is how every dwarf merchant claims you're getting a discount. Even Ruck. And they all lie.

[KilrB]

They're not exploits.



They are a reward for PLAYing the game instead of cheating.

[grizzengoo]

soteria wrote...


And I always find it amusing that some people think that cheating to achieve results and working to achieve results are equivalent.  As others have expressed, there's more at stake than just the results.  I mean, I could use the console to to kill the high dragon instantly, or I could use sound tactics and kill it normally.  Why would I want to do it the slow way?!

/facepalm

The difference between cheating from a command line and cheating by exploit? lol... There's not one. With the philosophy you exhibited, why are you in a thread called "Money for Nothing, XP For Free?" Or have I misunderstood you in your arguing with yourself?

[They call me a SpaceCowboy]

mousestalker wrote...

Shinian2 wrote...

Re method 2. Thanks for this. I had heard about this but calculated the prices based on the camp merchant and found out you actually lose money.

You're welcome.

One of the minor points I love about the game is how every dwarf merchant claims you're getting a discount. Even Ruck. And they all lie.

Hehe, good point!

[soteria]

grizzengoo wrote...

soteria wrote...


And I always find it amusing that some people think that cheating to achieve results and working to achieve results are equivalent.  As others have expressed, there's more at stake than just the results.  I mean, I could use the console to to kill the high dragon instantly, or I could use sound tactics and kill it normally.  Why would I want to do it the slow way?!

/facepalm

The difference between cheating from a command line and cheating by exploit? lol... There's not one. With the philosophy you exhibited, why are you in a thread called "Money for Nothing, XP For Free?" Or have I misunderstood you in your arguing with yourself?

You fail at logic.  You've definitely misunderstood something.

[stribies]

soteria wrote...

grizzengoo wrote...

soteria wrote...


And I always find it amusing that some people think that cheating to achieve results and working to achieve results are equivalent.  As others have expressed, there's more at stake than just the results.  I mean, I could use the console to to kill the high dragon instantly, or I could use sound tactics and kill it normally.  Why would I want to do it the slow way?!

/facepalm

The difference between cheating from a command line and cheating by exploit? lol... There's not one. With the philosophy you exhibited, why are you in a thread called "Money for Nothing, XP For Free?" Or have I misunderstood you in your arguing with yourself?

You fail at logic.  You've definitely misunderstood something.

No, he's absolutely right. You're cheating one way or the other. Why waste countless hours grinding an exploit when you can actually type a cheat in the console and actually go do something fun?

[soteria]

Well, of course you and he *are* the judges of what is cheating and what is not, so I suppose I should bow to your superior... something? People spend hours running around making money in this game? Those cheaters! How dare they buy materials, use crafting skills, and sell the finished product for a profit!



I don't know why you care how people spend their free time.

[CptPatch]

mousestalker wrote...
Method One (Lothering)[/u]
This requires the traps skill at level 1 or higher. If you want both experience and cash, find Allison in Lothering. She wants traps. She will pay 50 silver for three. Belin in the tavern sells trap triggers in stacks of 99. Buy the triggers, make them into spring traps and sell them to Allison in stacks of three.

Was this exploit blocked by the patch?  I checked an old Save to see how well it worked.  What currently happens is that she will buy THREE traps from you.  Thereafter you can't interact with her other than to have her say, "Thanks for the traps.  I feel much safer now."  And there's no way to show a profit from any more that you have left over.  (Barlin charges 2 silver and some coppers per Trap Trigger.  In return, he will pay you only 37 coppers for a finished Spring Trap.)

[I really, really hate the merchants in this game.  A 5-to-1 exchange rate or worse?  At _best_?  Every time I deal with one, I feel slimed.]

[TUHD]

CptPatch... you're right... it's blocked out now

Also... merchants are there to make you feel robbed. Always. And ever. In RL. Or games.

(Sorry for the much dots)

[mousestalker]

CptPatch wrote...

mousestalker wrote...
Method One (Lothering)[/u]
This requires the traps skill at level 1 or higher. If you want both experience and cash, find Allison in Lothering. She wants traps. She will pay 50 silver for three. Belin in the tavern sells trap triggers in stacks of 99. Buy the triggers, make them into spring traps and sell them to Allison in stacks of three.

Was this exploit blocked by the patch?  I checked an old Save to see how well it worked.  What currently happens is that she will buy THREE traps from you.  Thereafter you can't interact with her other than to have her say, "Thanks for the traps.  I feel much safer now."  And there's no way to show a profit from any more that you have left over.  (Barlin charges 2 silver and some coppers per Trap Trigger.  In return, he will pay you only 37 coppers for a finished Spring Trap.)

[I really, really hate the merchants in this game.  A 5-to-1 exchange rate or worse?  At _best_?  Every time I deal with one, I feel slimed.]

Agreed about the game merchants in general.

As for Allison, my game is fully up to date with patches. When I finish it for the first time, she gives the concluding dialog. Click on her again she says 'thanks for the traps'. Click on her again and she asks if I have any traps.

I don't have any game breaking mods installed so either my version is specially bugged or the fix wasn't fully implemented. My search skills are weak on this forum, but I believe I saw some posts by other people when the last patch came out noting the same behaviour.

[Asylumer]

Gaidren wrote...

This.

I always find it amusing that people will abuse exploits to get gold/xp and feel much better about it than they would if they had just used the console commands to conjure up some gold, despite the latter method being much quicker. 

I like pretending to be a trap maker. I'm providing a service for a poor desperate woman in need of traps. (while making enough $$$ for a jet airplane )

Ok, that's a lie, as I no longer use that method. Now I prefer to mod when I'm cheating, and technically it's a part of the game then. I don't cheat, I rearrange reality!

[tetracycloide]

grizzengoo wrote...
/facepalm

The difference between cheating from a command line and cheating by exploit? lol... There's not one. With the philosophy you exhibited, why are you in a thread called "Money for Nothing, XP For Free?" Or have I misunderstood you in your arguing with yourself?

And you know there's not a difference because a developer told your personally that these were exploits?  Until they're publicly identified as such by the rule setters i.e. the developers of the game their use is at worst questionable and at best perfecly acceptable.  Even if it seems obvious from the design of the rest of the game that this was not intentional it's only equivilant if it is deemed so by the people that make the rules until such time it is, by definition, not equivilant.  The infinite XP glitches, be they conversations or turn ins, are clearly not intentional since they developers have stated multiple times that they intended to have a softcap on XP in the game but infinite gold?  That's still up in the air, it probably is but probably is not equivilance.

[Lord Phoebus]

I think there's also an XP glitch that gives you about 700 XP anytime you enter the mountaintop area where you fight the High Dragon. Don't know if that one was patched out. I think the typical player who does everything will need around 20000 extra XP to hit level 25 at the end of the game (he'll hit 23+change). It is possible to get that XP legitimately by doing everything you can to max out your XP, including disarming every trap and opening every chest. But if you want to hit level 25 at the end, that's probably the amount of XP you'll need to get.



Gold is a strange thing in this game, by the time you have it you don't really need it and when you really need it's as scarce as morals in a politician. Unfortunately, the designers decided to make the best stuff, not counting DLC, merchant only (best dagger (Rose's Thorn), best axe (the Veshialle), best maul (Chasind Great Maul), best staff (Staff of the Magister Lord... come to think of it if you want a staff that's better than tier 4 you have to pay for it), best armor (Evon the Great's Mail, Felon's Coat, Reaper's Vestments), best amulet (Spellward), best ring (Lifegiver), best belt (Andruil's Blessing), best boots (boots of diligence and Bard's dancing shoes). You get a break on swords, shields, two handed axes, gloves, helms and the magus' war boots, and some of the stuff you find is pretty close to the best stuff (except for amulets, rings, belts, mage robes and staves, where the difference is significant) but really you have to buy everything else as well as tomes, runes, recipes and supplies. I don't see why they couldn't have made more of that stuff quest rewards.

[stribies]

soteria wrote...

Well, of course you and he *are* the judges of what is cheating and what is not, so I suppose I should bow to your superior... something? People spend hours running around making money in this game? Those cheaters! How dare they buy materials, use crafting skills, and sell the finished product for a profit!

I don't know why you care how people spend their free time.

You're right, I don't care what you do with your time. I was just trying to be helpful simply because nobody is going to give a damn about what methods you used to cheat in a single player game. It would only make sense to me that you would actually want to have fun, but what do I know?

[mousestalker]

Starfang is questable and is arguably the best sword in the game. Wade's is decent armour and is inexpensive (partially questable). So some top notch stuff doesn't really require cash.



I've had one character out of eight that had all the really best available bling. I'm not planning on repeating that. It just isn't needed.