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[ZoM_Head]

 I maxed out TC to give 120% power damage, plus evo 6 for an additional 40%. So that is a massive 160% power damage boost.

The Asari Huntress evo 4 gives 30% power damage as well.

That is 190% damage to powers.

So, if my math is correct, how come a biotic explosion on a Brute (DC + Warp), firing each power when cloaked, removed 3 bars of his armor on Gold?

I get that from a standard Asari Adept with Warp + Throw.

Not to mentioned the Adaptive War Amp (+ 15% biotics) and Power Amp level II (+ 20%).

Is there something still off with this character? it should bring a brute from full health down to half no?

Modifié par ZoM_Head, 19 décembre 2012 - 05:30 .

[Bessy067]

Biotic damage doesn't affect biotic explosion damage.

[Cloaking_Thane]

lol BE's are always same no matter what, kinda lame, but I understand Y

[ZoM_Head]

Bessy067 wrote...

Biotic damage doesn't affect biotic explosion damage.

Seriously?

So, it is better to spec her for max damage, and ignore any BE boosts? seriously?

[Ziegrif]

http://social.biowar.../index/15336981

Lulz.

http://social.biowar.../index/15336980

Again!

Modifié par Ziegrif, 19 décembre 2012 - 05:35 .

[ZoM_Head]

Bessy067 wrote...

Biotic damage doesn't affect biotic explosion damage.

Im sorry, but that makes no sense.

A Biotic Explosion is based on Biotics, meaning it is technically biotic damage.

I can not get my head around that.

[PsychoticBiotic]

The best thing you can do with her is Dark Channel then shoot at the enemy with Warp Ammo. You'll do massive damage. Cast Warp during the next cloak cycle to finish them off with a BE.

[IllusiveManJr]

I guess the third time really is a charm.

[K_Os2]

Bessy067 wrote...

Biotic damage doesn't affect biotic explosion damage.

[Bessy067]

ZoM_Head wrote...

Bessy067 wrote...

Biotic damage doesn't affect biotic explosion damage.

Seriously?

So, it is better to spec her for max damage, and ignore any BE boosts? seriously?

Yep, but don't ignore BE boosts.  They're still useful.  BE strength is determined by the level of the two powers causing it and any BE modifiers on those powers.  So a level 6 dark channel and level 6 warp will create a stronger explosion than a level 6 dark channel and level 3 warp.  How much damage the powers do individually doesn't change how much damage the explosion does.

Modifié par Bessy067, 19 décembre 2012 - 05:35 .

[DeadeyeCYclops]

yeah ideally you do not want to BE her powers, just let them run thier course for the best outcome
as it stands now, she basically has a long range Geth soldier power maxed flamer, that is biotic. from what i can tell

[ZoM_Head]

Bessy067 wrote...

ZoM_Head wrote...

Bessy067 wrote...

Biotic damage doesn't affect biotic explosion damage.

Seriously?

So, it is better to spec her for max damage, and ignore any BE boosts? seriously?

Yep, but don't ignore BE boosts.  They're still useful.  BE strength is determined by the level of the two powers causing it and any BE modifiers on those powers.  So a level 6 dark channel and level 6 warp will create a stronger explosion than a level 6 dark channel and level 3 warp.  How much damage the powers do individually doesn't change how much damage the explosion does.

I was under the impression, that with TC and 160% damage from TC alone, the BE would do more damage.

[StrawHatMoose]

Yeah, anything that says "power damage" doesn't apply to power combos... I thought we covered this a few times, especially about the passives not affecting BE damage at all...
The only things (that I can think of on the spot) that affect power combos are debuffs with "from all sources in them " and the special evos for the powers that say they boost power combo damage.
Also, nice job on the three threads.

[Cloaking_Thane]

You're wrong ZOM, we've told you how to dominate. Go profit bud

[DeadeyeCYclops]

yeah this is exactly why stuff like pull even at rank 6 is garbage, it only makes the lifted target take more dmg from the BE, not the surrounding enemies, because they were unaffected by pull...... many ppl fail to realize this I know i didn't realize it for a very long time.. lol

Modifié par DeadeyeCYclops78, 19 décembre 2012 - 05:42 .

[ZoM_Head]

StrawHatMoose wrote...

Yeah, anything that says "power damage" doesn't apply to power combos... I thought we covered this a few times, especially about the passives not affecting BE damage at all...
The only things (that I can think of on the spot) that affect power combos are debuffs with "from all sources in them " and the special evos for the powers that say they boost power combo damage. 
Also, nice job on the three threads.

Who is "we"? i was informed just moments ago by you guys about this.

Cloaking_Thane wrote...

You're wrong ZOM, we've told you how to dominate. Go profit bud

No idea what you are on about.

[MetalDeggial]

Are you even using the detonate (4b) and pierce (6a) evos in Warp? The Asari Huntress is flat-out overpowered currently in terms of raw, biotic damage, so I dunno what the heck are you doing wrong.

Also, biotic explosions have their damage determined by skill tree ranks and the occasional explosion increase evo. And not only the biotic explosion does damage when you detonate one: the powers you use also add damage on top of that. If you are doing such poor damage with BEs, then you must be using a bad build.

[Cloaking_Thane]

What I'm on about is that after the revelation that B/Es are the same no matter what you kept going on about it.

Maybe I'm just tired...good luck with the new found info and hope you can dominate w/ huntress now

[SPAC3G0ST]

i have my huntress spec full power on TC and debuffs/BE buffs on my DC and Warp...i do massive damange..and lets not forget if you play the class correctly, you DC a target (preferably a weaker enemy, detonate them with warp and let the DC xfer to the nxt and detonate them again with warp..chain BE is havoc and if have other asari in the group (Justicar) or even Drell Adept with REAVE then its just ridiculous against reapers and such

[staindgrey]

ZoM_Head wrote...

StrawHatMoose wrote...

Yeah, anything that says "power damage" doesn't apply to power combos... I thought we covered this a few times, especially about the passives not affecting BE damage at all...
The only things (that I can think of on the spot) that affect power combos are debuffs with "from all sources in them " and the special evos for the powers that say they boost power combo damage. 
Also, nice job on the three threads.

Who is "we"? i was informed just moments ago by you guys about this.

The usuals here on BSN figured this out the week the Huntress was released.

Essentially, TC boosts your initial power damage AND the DoT (damage over time) even after your cloak turns off. What it doesn't do is affect the BE, since that is a separate value (which is why most powers have a certain evolution specifically tailored to BEs, like Warp's evo4, Throw's evo5, and Pull's evo6).

The Huntress isn't great for BEs. If you want BEs, go Justicar or AA or N7 Adept. Dark Channel's strength is its DoT, as can be Warp's. You should be throwing DC on boss enemies and ONLY throwing BEs when they're surrounded by smaller enemies, because once you do, the damage bonus from TC is gone.

The Huntress is a damage machine, one of the best Platinum kits. But you have to learn to play her differently than biotic characters.

[mackfactor]

DeadeyeCYclops78 wrote...

yeah ideally you do not want to BE her powers, just let them run thier course for the best outcome
as it stands now, she basically has a long range Geth soldier power maxed flamer, that is biotic. from what i can tell

Dark Channel will remain active even if you detonate it.

[GordianKnot42]

I never noticed. I get most of my kills from the Claymore I arm her with.

[ZoM_Head]

mackfactor wrote...

DeadeyeCYclops78 wrote...

yeah ideally you do not want to BE her powers, just let them run thier course for the best outcome
as it stands now, she basically has a long range Geth soldier power maxed flamer, that is biotic. from what i can tell

Dark Channel will remain active even if you detonate it.

True, but one cannot throw warp and detonate BE again.

[Badpanzer]

mackfactor wrote...

DeadeyeCYclops78 wrote...

yeah ideally you do not want to BE her powers, just let them run thier course for the best outcome
as it stands now, she basically has a long range Geth soldier power maxed flamer, that is biotic. from what i can tell

Dark Channel will remain active even if you detonate it.

Yes and DC retains the cloak damage bonus for its full duration which is just sweeeet:)
Dark channel is a good power on any adept but on the huntress its brutal.

[kazumasoju]

 Biotic Explosions Scale with each difficulty, So they cause the same percentage of damage on every difficulty. Dark Channel and Warp both cause damage over time so the power boost from tactical cloak will affect the damage they do over time. :3 Hope that helps!