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KBomb wrote...

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Thanks, I'm thinking of eating more salads, but I prefer Ranch. Is Light Ranch a good alternative even if it has a bit more calories though. Instead of fruits, can I mix them into a smoothie instead. I'm not a big fan of fruits but I love smoothies.


Here is what you do if you have to have some low-fat ranch. Put about a teaspoon on the side and dip your fork in it, then put some salad on your fork. That way, you still have some of the ranch taste, but you'll be able to control how much your taking in.

Also, stay away from diet soda. Try some green tea or maybe some Crystal Lite. It comes in a variety of flavors. Don't forget to include some sweets into your eating habits. Try eating a cup of frozen yogurt with some fresh fruit or a small square of dark chocolate once a day. Denying yourself something sweet will cause you to binge.

Honestly, you should stay clear of diet foods. Try eating fresh, heathly foods that you can prepare yourself. You'll feel more full and energized and you'll be able to eat larger portions if the food is healthy. Those little diet tv dinners and such won't fill you up and you'll probably end up eating more. Instead, grill a chicken breast with three servings of steamed vegetables. As I said, no diets. Make it a lifestyle change.

That is a great suggestion. I usually just poor in around 1 "shot" worth of Ranch into my salads. I could reduce the amount it if I dip instead of pouring. I'll try it tonight to see how it work out. Probably add some baked chicken for protein and flavor alongside with the salads. I admit that the Subway sandwich doesn't fill me up and I usually just play games until I fall asleep to distract myself. I try to see if I can use grilled or baked chicken breast with salads for a fuller meal. At the moment, I'm still on the process of losing weight, so I'll probably eat lower portion then after I lose my goal weight, I'll increase the portion.

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There have been studies that "show" that diet soda "makes you fatter". You've probably noticed the quotes. That's because it's based on a typical misinterpretation of statistics. Correlation, not causation.

Someone notices that fat people drink more diet soda. Therefore, diet soda makes people fat. Brilliant deduction! Usually, a real scientist proves a correlation and an overeager journalist misrepresents the findings.

That said, diet soda is still bad for you because of all the nasty stuff in it (sweeteners, artifical coloring, ...), but I don't think anyone ever managed to prove that it makes you fat. I try to drink much less of it these days because of the caffeine mainly.


Replacing regular, sugared soda with diet actually makes people lose weight. Regular soda contains A LOT of sugar, so if you can't live without you're Coca Cola, going for the diet version is definitely the best option. There have been some rumors about diet soda being bad for you because of the sweetener that's being used in it, but for that sweetener to have a negative effect on your health you would have to drink about... I don't know, more than 5 gallons of the stuff I believe it was. It was a ridiculous amount at least. Drinking that much regular soda is not a very good idea either, so...

Drinking water or green tea would still be the best option, but purely from a caloric perspective, diet soda should work. It does not make you fat at least.

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Thanks, I'm thinking of making a fruit smoothie which has milk, banana, and strawberries in it. They should supplement my fruit intake. Maybe a grill salmon or ham on a wheat sandwich with lettuce and tomatoes for dinner. I did a quick surf on the net and some people lose 5-10 a month with 500 calories intake. I have 800 caloies a day, I'm just saying that with treadmill, it will go down to 500 calories, not that I only eat 500 calorie worht of food though. It's a quick burst diet, and I will go back to at least 1200-1500 once I lost the weight I desire.


I understood what you were saying, and 800 calories is really, really little and not enough to lose weight in a healthy way. Honestly, if you eat breakfast, lunch and dinner plus two snacks (as in fruit), you will be able to lose weight. Your body needs a certain amount of carbohydrates, fats, proteins, vitamins, etc. When you only eat for 800 calories of food a day (or worse: 500 calories) you don't get enough of all those essential nutrients. That's why it's better to take it slower and diet in a healthy way. A crash diet will only confuse your body and make it think it's starving. In that case your metabolism will slow down, and that is not what you want when you want to lose weight. Exercising is the best way to keep your metabolism up, as you won't only burn plenty of calories during the exercise itself, you will also build up muscle tissue, and muscles require a lot of energy to maintain. So in addition to the treadmill exercise you could consider doing some exercises that strengthen your muscles. Squats, push-ups and sit-ups are easy to do at home. You don't have to become a bodybuilder for it to have effect. With 2 or 3 days a week you will increase your muscle tissue. 

It depends on how active the rest of your lifestyle is, but I consider 1200-1500 calories as not that much either. It's an amount with which people usually lose weight already.

Oh, about the smoothy: although it's healthy, you might reconsider taking all your fruit at once as a fluid. Fluids are far less satiating than solid fruits, even when it contains the exact same aount of calories, fibres, etc., and since your diet plan seems so strict, I'd say it's better to spread out what calories you do want to allow yourself. So eating two separate pieces of fruit at different times a day (between lunch and dinner and after dinner for instance) would probably make the diet more bearable. The glass of milk you can still take with your breakfast, since it's one of the most important sources of calcium.

The gym is next to my dorm, so I usually go there for treadmill and other exercises. I know that exercise will increase the metabolism that's why I want to incorporate it into my diet. I see your point though. I think I'll try to go up to 1200-1300 calorie a day plus treadmill. I'm thinking of spreading out lunch and dinner into 5 separate smaller meals if possible, so that I don't go hungry the whole day. I admit after 3 days, I feel a bit sluggish, so I don't think I should reduce it any lower.

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renjility wrote...

Drinking water or green tea would
still be the best option, but purely from a caloric perspective, diet
soda should work. It does not make you fat at least.


Yes, definitely. And regular soda is pretty ridiculous in the first place. I have my blood pressure to worry about personally, so I have tried cutting down on other things as well. Supposedly soda is bad, and salt definitely is.

Anyway, exercise has been great for me. Can't stress this enough. It even made my supposedly bad knee feel better. Apparently, sitting at a desk all day and not exercising at all is really bad for you. Who would have thought!

Battlebloodmage wrote...
The gym is next to my dorm, so I
usually go there for treadmill and other exercises. I know that exercise
will increase the metabolism that's why I want to incorporate it into
my diet. I see your point though. I think I'll try to go up to 1200-1300
calorie a day plus treadmill. I'm thinking of spreading out lunch and
dinner into 5 separate smaller meals if possible, so that I don't go
hungry the whole day. I admit after 3 days, I feel a bit sluggish, so I
don't think I should reduce it any lower.


Feeling sluggish is not a good sign. Exercising is supposed to give you more energy. Hope you're careful with that.

Modifié par termokanden, 19 décembre 2012 - 11:23 .


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Try not to over do your exercising. I think most people make the mistake of doing it every single night and they wear themselves--and their bodies out. Choose a few exercises that you enjoy and alternate them. Every four weeks, try something new. A spinning class or pilates or try walking a different route. Boredom and exhuastion is the main reason most give up on exercise. Give yourself a couple of days off and do something you find fun or relaxing as a treat for yourself and give your body a rest.

And look for farmer markets in your area. They'll have a greater variety of fruits and vegetables and they are much cheaper than supermarkets.

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I thought Farmer Markets would be more expensive since a lot of their food are organic. There's one near my school, so I'll probably head there today to see what's available.

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termokanden wrote...


Battlebloodmage wrote...
The gym is next to my dorm, so I
usually go there for treadmill and other exercises. I know that exercise
will increase the metabolism that's why I want to incorporate it into
my diet. I see your point though. I think I'll try to go up to 1200-1300
calorie a day plus treadmill. I'm thinking of spreading out lunch and
dinner into 5 separate smaller meals if possible, so that I don't go
hungry the whole day. I admit after 3 days, I feel a bit sluggish, so I
don't think I should reduce it any lower.


Feeling sluggish is not a good sign. Exercising is supposed to give you more energy. Hope you're careful with that.

I don't think it has anything to do with excercising. I just am hungry. I usually eat a lot so just change it to one subway a day is a drastic cut.

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Battlebloodmage wrote...

I thought Farmer Markets would be more expensive since a lot of their food are organic. There's one near my school, so I'll probably head there today to see what's available.


Well, I am a huge fan of organic foods and I think the extra cost is worth it. However, not all the produce at a farmer's market is organic. Most of it is just local produce and the great thing about farmer's markets is that you can haggle! The downside is that it's mostly seasonal, but that is actually what saves you money.

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I don't think it has anything to do with excercising. I just am hungry. I usually eat a lot so just change it to one subway a day is a drastic cut.


That is because you're burning more fuel than you're putting in. If you're hungry: eat. It's that simple. That is why it's so important to always carry some snacks. Fruits and nuts are something I always have with me. Eating a handful of almonds is a lot better than an order of fries at McDonalds. Just watch your portions. A good trick is to use your palm as a guide. Have a palmful of dried fruit or nuts and you'll keep that energy level up and won't feel so sluggish.

Modifié par KBomb, 19 décembre 2012 - 11:39 .


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Yeah. I had that too when I tried starving. Exercising gave me more energy, on the other hand.

Modifié par termokanden, 19 décembre 2012 - 11:36 .


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I could live on Subway. <3

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Honestly you could go on a diet of anything and potentially lose weight, as long as you managed things like your Calorie intake, and exercise schedule.
And far as I can see, you've got everything in order.

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Don't forget about your basal metabolic rate (calories that you spend simply by being alive and existing).  A sedentary individual (someone that isn't active) is suggested to eat around 1500 calories a day.  My personal basal metabolic rate is pretty much 2000 calories.  This means my body will burn about 2000 calories while at rest!



Exercise is important (which you're doing), as it helps build muscle mass which can increase your basal metabolic rate, helping you drop excess weight.


I dropped about 20 lbs (from 200 to 180) in a year a couple years ago over a year simply with the "don't eat stupid" diet (cut out sugars, snacks, and drank more water) with exercise (cardio and weights) 3-4 times a week.

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Yep, that is pretty much the exact same thing I did. Still lost weight at around 2000 calories or a bit more per day due to cardio and weights and skipping just some of the unhealthy food.

You don't burn as much energy from lifting weights, but it's less boring than running (worst thing about it, it's SO BORING) and I could stay at the gym for 2 hours that way.

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Battlebloodmage wrote...

Do you think it's viable to go on a Subway diet?

The Subway diet is a marketing gimmick.

That said, yes, you might be able to maintain it for a long enough period that you lose weight. The longer you're on it though, the more boring and unappetizing you'll find the sandwiches.

Battlebloodmage wrote...
I try to avoid having too many food in the house since I have very bad self-control, especially at night.

I've had that problem. I find the best thing to do is to have food around that you can stuff yourself full of.

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Eating the same stuff everyday could be tiring.


I've never really had that problem myself. I could eat the same Subway sandwich day in and day out and it'd never grow old to me. Though that could be due to my extremely high metabolism where I'm always hungry.

The only downside of all that is that those sandwiches tend to be loaded with a lot of stuff that could give me ulcers if I ate them repeatedly.

But god damn, the way I make my Subway sandwiches is ****ing awesome. The most delicious sandwich ever.

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Any diet that makes you eat less calories than you expend will make you lose weight, the important thing is that you are still getting the nutrients you need. Gimmicky diets that prescribe meal replacement shakes or eating the same food every day or such, are less effective in that regard because they lack variety.

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Do whatever seems to be working for you. If you like subway go for it. It's far better to go to subway each day and load up on veggies on the sub of your choice than it is to try and maintain a diet that takes more effort. Subway is quick and if you just modify the type of things you are having on the subs a bit each few days (as in cut out cheese or stuff like mayo) you will make progress.

Also, when people are telling you 'just eat healtheri with more veggies and such that IS a diet.

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Beerfish wrote...

Do whatever seems to be working for you. If you like subway go for it. It's far better to go to subway each day and load up on veggies on the sub of your choice than it is to try and maintain a diet that takes more effort. Subway is quick and if you just modify the type of things you are having on the subs a bit each few days (as in cut out cheese or stuff like mayo) you will make progress.

Also, when people are telling you 'just eat healtheri with more veggies and such that IS a diet.


No, it isn't. Eating healthy shouldn't be considered a diet. Eating healthy is what everyone should be doing, regardless of their weight.

Eating fast food and junk food isn't a normal diet, that is why the human body reacts poorly to it. Eating healthy carries more benefit than just losing weight. It combats disease, makes you have more energy and improves your overall quality of life. Stuffing your body with things like sugar and transfat isn't a dietary need. Vitamins, minerals and nutrition are. That is why you should make it a lifestyle change. Then there won't be a need to go on diets at all.

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No, it isn't. Eating healthy shouldn't be considered a diet. Eating healthy is what everyone should be doing, regardless of their weight.

Precisely. Eating absolutely nothing but sandwiches doesn't come off necessarily as the "Optimal" meal plan. As mentioned in previous posts, I'd personally prefer a balance between vegetables/fruits, more of the crackery/carb-based variety and whatnot. I avoid soda, diet included - it's an acidic, sugar-filled drink that could've been replaced with something just as enjoyable, and far more productive for your body. I usually do Ice cold water, Milk, and Juices(with a straw to protect the teeth). I'd try to stray away from too much sugar per day - all things in moderation.

I also would reccomend taking a daily vitamin pill, if you're missing out on anything for said meal plan. As far as exercise, do what's fun for you, or what's most convenient.

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Actually, a diet is simply a set of food that something (or someone) habitually eats. Yes, it's commonly associated with "an attempt to control calories in order to lose weight," but it can be used as a noun and a healthy diet is one that will get someone enough calories, vitamins, and other nutrients, to have a healthy body.

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/diet

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Battlebloodmage wrote...

Do you think it's viable to go on a Subway diet?


If you have the money to spend, then sure. Subway has some healthy choices and is a good choice when you want something fast.

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Calories aside, subway doesn't seem all that healthy with its cured meats and ready cooked dealios.
Eat fresh, my arse

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Allan Schumacher wrote...

Actually, a diet is simply a set of food that something (or someone) habitually eats. Yes, it's commonly associated with "an attempt to control calories in order to lose weight," but it can be used as a noun and a healthy diet is one that will get someone enough calories, vitamins, and other nutrients, to have a healthy body.

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/diet

Thank you for sparing me the trouble. :)


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Calories aside, subway doesn't seem all that healthy with its cured meats and ready cooked dealios.
Eat fresh, my arse

I'm going to assume that your objection is to the high sodium content in the meats. That's something to watch out for, but you can have two 6 inch subs a day and stay below guidelines.

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KBomb wrote...

Beerfish wrote...

Do whatever seems to be working for you. If you like subway go for it. It's far better to go to subway each day and load up on veggies on the sub of your choice than it is to try and maintain a diet that takes more effort. Subway is quick and if you just modify the type of things you are having on the subs a bit each few days (as in cut out cheese or stuff like mayo) you will make progress.

Also, when people are telling you 'just eat healtheri with more veggies and such that IS a diet.


No, it isn't. Eating healthy shouldn't be considered a diet. Eating healthy is what everyone should be doing, regardless of their weight.

Eating fast food and junk food isn't a normal diet, that is why the human body reacts poorly to it. Eating healthy carries more benefit than just losing weight. It combats disease, makes you have more energy and improves your overall quality of life. Stuffing your body with things like sugar and transfat isn't a dietary need. Vitamins, minerals and nutrition are. That is why you should make it a lifestyle change. Then there won't be a need to go on diets at all.



Wrong. 

If a person eats in one fashion and as with most nutrionists the person says "Diets don't work!  Don't go on a diet! All yiou have to do is eat more fruits and veggies, more fiber and more lean meats!"

That is a change in persons diet and thus will fail just like a 'diet' will fail.  If the old mantra of 'just eat healthy' worked this hemisphere would not be in the shape it is.

Any change from one eating pattern to another is in fact a diet.

It's convenient to just change a label from 'diet' to 'lifestuyle change' as it pertains to eating.  They are one in the same.

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fdgvdddvdfdfbdfb wrote...

Calories aside, subway doesn't seem all that healthy with its cured meats and ready cooked dealios.
Eat fresh, my arse


Depends on what meats to go for in the sub.  The one thing that subway is very good at is displaying the data for their subs, down to the type of bread you chose and such.