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dreman9999 wrote...

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Why would I want to watch it, if I was never interested in it from the beginning

Why go into a topic about a moive to give a bad comment on a movie you have no interest in?

There plenty of movies and shows I have no interest in and I doing go out of my way to make harsh comments about them in random topics.


Because he has the freedom to do so and why are you so upset about it-you have done the same thing repeatedly.  Everyone appears to be free to go where they are not welcome and since you've done it, stop complaining when others do it too.

The movie looks awful, is about a character that should have had more exposition in the game.  The movie (juvenile, low production value, light on lore cartoon) features an attempt to explain things that should have been in the game, but are not.  The fact that the books and comics are all used by people (including you OP) as well-known lore to support their position on things speaks to AresKeith's point.  External products related to this game (including twitter) are used as if they are in game fact.  And if no one is actively assuring the quality of the product that has their own IP's name on it, then it shows they couldn't care less about this creation of theirs and how it's perceived or presented.  They might as well create toilets with the Mass Effect logo on it that features Shepard saying "I'm Commander Shepard and this is my favorite place to take a dump...gurgle, gurgle".

And once again you confuse hate (actually it's more like revulsion and disgust) of an inanimate object with no feelings with something really destructive, the nasty treatment that shows contempt for real people.  The two are not equal.  And before you say it's because people are heaping hate on BW-no, actually people are responding with disgust and with some awe and wonder that people at BW could show so little care and concern for products they put their name on, products that are their face to the world, products that if they were some form of art or creativity would be like their babies.  Real artists care about stuff their name goes on-and creative people often do feel like their projects are their babies.  Paragon Lost doesn't look like anyone cared that much about it.  And Casey Hudson thought Deception was really good.  Again, proof that they don't care.

The fact that you made a post this long means there is hate.


Can't tell if serious or trolling

I hope your trolling

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AresKeith wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

3DandBeyond wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

AresKeith wrote...

Why would I want to watch it, if I was never interested in it from the beginning

Why go into a topic about a moive to give a bad comment on a movie you have no interest in?

There plenty of movies and shows I have no interest in and I doing go out of my way to make harsh comments about them in random topics.


Because he has the freedom to do so and why are you so upset about it-you have done the same thing repeatedly.  Everyone appears to be free to go where they are not welcome and since you've done it, stop complaining when others do it too.

The movie looks awful, is about a character that should have had more exposition in the game.  The movie (juvenile, low production value, light on lore cartoon) features an attempt to explain things that should have been in the game, but are not.  The fact that the books and comics are all used by people (including you OP) as well-known lore to support their position on things speaks to AresKeith's point.  External products related to this game (including twitter) are used as if they are in game fact.  And if no one is actively assuring the quality of the product that has their own IP's name on it, then it shows they couldn't care less about this creation of theirs and how it's perceived or presented.  They might as well create toilets with the Mass Effect logo on it that features Shepard saying "I'm Commander Shepard and this is my favorite place to take a dump...gurgle, gurgle".

And once again you confuse hate (actually it's more like revulsion and disgust) of an inanimate object with no feelings with something really destructive, the nasty treatment that shows contempt for real people.  The two are not equal.  And before you say it's because people are heaping hate on BW-no, actually people are responding with disgust and with some awe and wonder that people at BW could show so little care and concern for products they put their name on, products that are their face to the world, products that if they were some form of art or creativity would be like their babies.  Real artists care about stuff their name goes on-and creative people often do feel like their projects are their babies.  Paragon Lost doesn't look like anyone cared that much about it.  And Casey Hudson thought Deception was really good.  Again, proof that they don't care.

The fact that you made a post this long means there is hate.


Can't tell if serious or trolling

I hope your trolling

What is a person to think if you go out of your way to make a comment that long in something you have zero intrest in  within a topic not generalized to you?

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What is a person to think if you go out of your way to make a comment that long in something you have zero intrest in  within a topic not generalized to you?


So, a lot of words and sentences are equal to hate?  Wow, you need a new dictionary.  And when did topics not directed at you and your likes ever keep you from posting comments.

I don't have zero interest in this cartoon at all.  I have let's say -100 interest in it, but since it's difficult to write with a negative number of words, I decided to go with the positive amount. 

The emotional intent of a person's words cannot be derived from the number of words being used, but rather from the meaning contained in the use of the words.  For instance, you can merely say, "I hate this" and that's pretty clear, so I fail to see what word count has to do with anything.

What is a person to think indeed?  A person must read first and think after having read the words.  Apparently the last book I read, which claimed it was a book of humorous stuff, was all about hate.  It had a lot of words.

Modifié par 3DandBeyond, 20 décembre 2012 - 04:12 .


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3DandBeyond wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

What is a person to think if you go out of your way to make a comment that long in something you have zero intrest in  within a topic not generalized to you?


So, a lot of words and sentences are equal to hate?  Wow, you need a new dictionary.  And when did topics not directed at you and your likes ever keep you from posting comments.

I don't have zero interest in this cartoon at all.  I have let's say -100 interest in it, but since it's difficult to write with a negative number of words, I decided to go with the positive amount. 

The emotional intent of a person's words cannot be derived from the number of words being used, but rather from the meaning contained in the use of the words.  For instance, you can merely say, "I hate this" and that's pretty clear, so I fail to see what word count has to do with anything.

This is a topic thatis not related to you at all. To go into it ready for a fight and fill with bile givesan impression.
The question ask in the topic was never directed to you. The issue is why go out of you way to do this?]
Why go out of the way to say you hate something you never fully watch in a topic asking the opinion of those who have fully watched it?
 You may not get the full emotional intent out of a persons word, but you easily can do so based on that persons actions. And you going out of your way to make such statment in a topic not applied to you leave alot to read.

Modifié par dreman9999, 20 décembre 2012 - 04:16 .


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dreman9999 wrote...

3DandBeyond wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

What is a person to think if you go out of your way to make a comment that long in something you have zero intrest in  within a topic not generalized to you?


So, a lot of words and sentences are equal to hate?  Wow, you need a new dictionary.  And when did topics not directed at you and your likes ever keep you from posting comments.

I don't have zero interest in this cartoon at all.  I have let's say -100 interest in it, but since it's difficult to write with a negative number of words, I decided to go with the positive amount. 

The emotional intent of a person's words cannot be derived from the number of words being used, but rather from the meaning contained in the use of the words.  For instance, you can merely say, "I hate this" and that's pretty clear, so I fail to see what word count has to do with anything.

This is a topic thatis not related to you at all. To go into it ready for a fight and fill with bile givesan impression.
The question ask in the topic was never directed to you. The issue is why go out of you way to do this?]
Why go out of the way to say you hate something you never fully watch in a topic asking the opinion of those who have fully watched it?


Image IPB Who said we hated the movie, all we said is that we had no intentions of seeing it

That doesn't mean the person hates it

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AresKeith wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

3DandBeyond wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

What is a person to think if you go out of your way to make a comment that long in something you have zero intrest in  within a topic not generalized to you?


So, a lot of words and sentences are equal to hate?  Wow, you need a new dictionary.  And when did topics not directed at you and your likes ever keep you from posting comments.

I don't have zero interest in this cartoon at all.  I have let's say -100 interest in it, but since it's difficult to write with a negative number of words, I decided to go with the positive amount. 

The emotional intent of a person's words cannot be derived from the number of words being used, but rather from the meaning contained in the use of the words.  For instance, you can merely say, "I hate this" and that's pretty clear, so I fail to see what word count has to do with anything.

This is a topic thatis not related to you at all. To go into it ready for a fight and fill with bile givesan impression.
The question ask in the topic was never directed to you. The issue is why go out of you way to do this?]
Why go out of the way to say you hate something you never fully watch in a topic asking the opinion of those who have fully watched it?


Image IPB Who said we hated the movie, all we said is that we had no intentions of seeing it

That doesn't mean the person hates it

You...

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Deception the movie

Tell me what this means.

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And that means I hate it how?

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Its bad... couldnt watch the whole thing.

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dreman9999 wrote...

This is a topic thatis not related to you at all. To go into it ready for a fight and fill with bile givesan impression.
The question ask in the topic was never directed to you. The issue is why go out of you way to do this?]
Why go out of the way to say you hate something you never fully watch in a topic asking the opinion of those who have fully watched it?
 You may not get the full emotional intent out of a persons word, but you easily can do so based on that persons actions. And you going out of your way to make such statment in a topic not applied to you leave alot to read.


When has that ever stopped you.  You have consistently done this yourself.  Someone posts a topic saying the catalyst makes no sense and do you avoid it-no, you post in it.  And I didn't fill it with bile-you are applying your own interpretation and imagining things that do not exist.  I haven't attempted to fight.  I stated an opinion, in a thread with an opinion poll.  If I voted, that would be something different altogether. 

I never said I hated anything-you keep using that word to describe people not liking something that has no feelings, a movie. 

You don't take your own advice and not post in threads that don't agree with your opinions, so I'm just here reading what others say about the movie.  For all I know, you never even watched the thing.  How do we know you did?

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And that means I hate it how?

You graded it by comparing it with the most hated story in the series...A story so bad it only positive why of reading it is through a rage comicmade to make fun of it, that even if all the lore errors were fixed, it would still be a horrible story that makes no sense.

This with out watching the movie...

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And that means I hate it how?

You graded it by comparing it with the most hated story in the series...A story so bad it only positive why of reading it is through a rage comicmade to make fun of it, that even if all the lore errors were fixed, it would still be a horrible story that makes no sense.

This with out watching the movie...


No, it isn't really hated at all.  And not everyone agrees that it's bad.  Casey liked it.  And comparing it to Deception does rightly indicate it has lore errors.

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3DandBeyond wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

This is a topic thatis not related to you at all. To go into it ready for a fight and fill with bile givesan impression.
The question ask in the topic was never directed to you. The issue is why go out of you way to do this?]
Why go out of the way to say you hate something you never fully watch in a topic asking the opinion of those who have fully watched it?
 You may not get the full emotional intent out of a persons word, but you easily can do so based on that persons actions. And you going out of your way to make such statment in a topic not applied to you leave alot to read.


When has that ever stopped you.  You have consistently done this yourself.  Someone posts a topic saying the catalyst makes no sense and do you avoid it-no, you post in it.  And I didn't fill it with bile-you are applying your own interpretation and imagining things that do not exist.  I haven't attempted to fight.  I stated an opinion, in a thread with an opinion poll.  If I voted, that would be something different altogether. 

I never said I hated anything-you keep using that word to describe people not liking something that has no feelings, a movie. 

You don't take your own advice and not post in threads that don't agree with your opinions, so I'm just here reading what others say about the movie.  For all I know, you never even watched the thing.  How do we know you did?

You mean when I made a counter argument in one of your topics about the ending...The very ending I watched as well and can make a valid opinion one....

Sure, you , who has not watched the movie , are doing the same thing as I was doing with your discussions on the ending, which I fully saw.

It somehow exactly the same./Sarcasm.

Added, ifyoustatedstufflike this...

"The movie looks awful, is about a character that should have had more exposition in the game.  The movie (juvenile, low production value, light on lore cartoon) features an attempt to explain things that should have been in the game, but are not.  The fact that the books and comics are all used by people (including you OP) as well-known lore to support their position on things speaks to AresKeith's point.  External products related to this game (including twitter) are used as if they are in game fact."

It hard to see how you don't hate it.
 Andas foryou comment. Jame tells you this already in ME3 before the movie came out. Nothing in it is new.

Modifié par dreman9999, 20 décembre 2012 - 04:39 .


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3DandBeyond wrote...

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And that means I hate it how?

You graded it by comparing it with the most hated story in the series...A story so bad it only positive why of reading it is through a rage comicmade to make fun of it, that even if all the lore errors were fixed, it would still be a horrible story that makes no sense.

This with out watching the movie...


No, it isn't really hated at all.  And not everyone agrees that it's bad.  Casey liked it.  And comparing it to Deception does rightly indicate it has lore errors.

3d, please. Don't embarrassed your self. Go and make a poll or look up past topics on the book. You going to see that there is no love for Deception.

It was hated so badly the the mass effect wiki for a time refused to include it on the web site.

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3DandBeyond wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

AresKeith wrote...

And that means I hate it how?

You graded it by comparing it with the most hated story in the series...A story so bad it only positive why of reading it is through a rage comicmade to make fun of it, that even if all the lore errors were fixed, it would still be a horrible story that makes no sense.

This with out watching the movie...


No, it isn't really hated at all.  And not everyone agrees that it's bad.  Casey liked it.  And comparing it to Deception does rightly indicate it has lore errors.


This

All I did was compare it to the fact it has lore errors as Deception

Your the one putting words our mouth about hate

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AresKeith wrote...

3DandBeyond wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

AresKeith wrote...

And that means I hate it how?

You graded it by comparing it with the most hated story in the series...A story so bad it only positive why of reading it is through a rage comicmade to make fun of it, that even if all the lore errors were fixed, it would still be a horrible story that makes no sense.

This with out watching the movie...


No, it isn't really hated at all.  And not everyone agrees that it's bad.  Casey liked it.  And comparing it to Deception does rightly indicate it has lore errors.


This

All I did was compare it to the fact it has lore errors as Deception

Your the one putting words our mouth about hate

 Don't embarrassed your self. Go and make a poll or look up past topics on the book. You going to see that there is no love for Deception.

It was hated so badly the the mass effect wiki for a time refused to include it on the web site.
 The owners of the site themselves made a plea on their site asking bw to fix the book.

Modifié par dreman9999, 20 décembre 2012 - 04:41 .


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Ok? And what does that have to do with me only comparing it to lore errors only

And 3D is right, not everyone hates Deception

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Ok? And what does that have to do with me only comparing it to lore errors only

And 3D is right, not everyone hates Deception

Find me one perosn or even a significat number of people that liked deception.

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Casey Hudson

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AresKeith wrote...

Casey Hudson

......Who was too busy to read it.

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dreman9999 wrote...

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Casey Hudson

......Who was too busy to read it.


Um no, he reviewed it himself basically liking it

"Finished my final review of the #MassEffect Deception novel. A really
fun lead-in to #ME3! Kai Leng is a badass. January 31 release." - Casey Hudson.

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AresKeith wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

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Casey Hudson

......Who was too busy to read it.


Um no, he reviewed it himself basically liking it

"Finished my final review of the #MassEffect Deception novel. A really
fun lead-in to #ME3! Kai Leng is a badass. January 31 release." - Casey Hudson.

He made acomment on it just to getit to sell. He did not read it.

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You can deny all you want, but the fact is even though the majority of people didn't like Deception there are some who did like it.

And you also need to get off your high-horse of acting like you know what everyone is thinking because Reality check: You don't

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Prove that Casey didn't read it then...

The omen is on you to prove that, because he said himself that he did.

Also, Grey_Nayr. There you go, just the other day he was supporting Deception.

Please, Dreman, stop embaressing yourself.

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Prove that Casey didn't read it then...

The omen is on you to prove that, because he said himself that he did.

Also, Grey_Nayr. There you go, just the other day he was supporting Deception.

Please, Dreman, stop embaressing yourself.

That does not stop Deception from being bad nor used to define something bad.

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Nice back-peddle there Dreman