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[dreman9999]

The Night Mammoth wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

The Night Mammoth wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...
1. They build the base around the becaon.
2.The indoctrination starts from the time they found it.

Did they or did they not study Object Rho whilst it was in that location? Did they or did they not then plan to blow up the Alpha Relay because of what they discovered?

3.Sure, they had no idea Shepard was coming, but the reaper did. Indoctrinated pawns don't make the plan, they are just used in them.

What Reaper? How did they know Shepard was coming to the Bahak system?

1.Sure, also Saren was planning to save all organic life by betraying them to the reapers and TIM belevied that controling the reaper was a way to uplift humanity...And it was clear they were both indoctrianted....Indoctrianted is used by reapers to warp the persons beliefs to do what the reapers want without the person knowing. They were pawn of the reapers and did not know. Thus how it became a trap.

They served a purpose. What purpose did outright preventing the Reapers from entering the galaxy serve? If it was a trap, why the f*ck did the Reapers actually let them modify the asteroid?

2. Harbinger. It clear everything happen just so they can capture Shepard. It was a trap, literaly.

Harbinger somehow indoctrinated Hackett and made him ask Shepard to go to the Bahak system? 

1.Indoctrination works slowly.They let them do the project so they would not know they were being indoctrinated.
2. More like Harbingerfound out dr. Kenson works for Hacket and got her to get captured knowing Shepardwould came because ofher reserch with reaper tech and the fact all reaper related project gets overheardby Shepard

[Wayning_Star]

dreman9999 wrote...

3DandBeyond wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...
I did... All I got was this...

Added, I already know youtube would take any recently relesed movie down.

sORRY, if you can't provide a link , I'm call bs.

Well then you don't know how to search.  It's there, is about 300mb and youtube will take it down when they find it, of course.  But then apparently you don't know how youtube works.  They have to find it first.

But sure, call something BS because you can't find it.  I can provide the link but I'm not going to try to get anyone in trouble.  It's up to them what they do.  I'd never put the video up, but that's their responsibility not mine.

Ok, then if you watched it...Tell methe ending, or at least how one peson on the squad dies.

I tried to find it, but it appears to be taboo'd off youtube.. What I seen was a review praising it as ok as ME stuff, with apparent flaws with presentation. I didn't get the swarmers there tho, as they're used later in game. It would seem the alliance wouldn't of been 'mystified' by them by that time if Vega has a run in with them? That pesky lore clash again?

really tho, it seemed to be merely commercial, more than any lore booster.. imho

[3DandBeyond]

dreman9999 wrote...

Ok, then if you watched it...Tell methe ending, or at least how one peson on the squad dies.

Well, please read my posts.  I specifically said I didn't watch the whole thing and I don't need to in order to know I don't like it.  How many times do you want me to say the same thing I've said already.  You don't read posts, you see a post and then imagine what the person has said and then hit reply.  I don't like the cartoon.  I can't get past about ten minutes of it.  I instantly dislike Captain Tony.  I don't care for how Vega is drawn or the inane dialogue at the beginning.  The fact I got through ten minutes of it is a big deal and even that was very tough.  So, I didn't finish it and I'm not interested in the ending.  But if it's now part of ME lore, in the end Shepard gets to make one of three choices or can refuse to choose.

[The Night Mammoth]

dreman9999 wrote...

The Night Mammoth wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

The Night Mammoth wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...
1. They build the base around the becaon.
2.The indoctrination starts from the time they found it.

Did they or did they not study Object Rho whilst it was in that location? Did they or did they not then plan to blow up the Alpha Relay because of what they discovered?

3.Sure, they had no idea Shepard was coming, but the reaper did. Indoctrinated pawns don't make the plan, they are just used in them.

What Reaper? How did they know Shepard was coming to the Bahak system?

1.Sure, also Saren was planning to save all organic life by betraying them to the reapers and TIM belevied that controling the reaper was a way to uplift humanity...And it was clear they were both indoctrianted....Indoctrianted is used by reapers to warp the persons beliefs to do what the reapers want without the person knowing. They were pawn of the reapers and did not know. Thus how it became a trap.

They served a purpose. What purpose did outright preventing the Reapers from entering the galaxy serve? If it was a trap, why the f*ck did the Reapers actually let them modify the asteroid?

2. Harbinger. It clear everything happen just so they can capture Shepard. It was a trap, literaly.

Harbinger somehow indoctrinated Hackett and made him ask Shepard to go to the Bahak system? 

1.Indoctrination works slowly.They let them do the project so they would not know they were being indoctrinated.

I'd think the Reapers would draw the line at letting them convert the asteroid into a giant missile and set it on a collision course. 

2. More like Harbingerfound out dr. Kenson works for Hacket and got her to get captured knowing Shepardwould came because ofher reserch with reaper tech and the fact all reaper related project gets overheardby Shepard

It's conjecture then. Shepard is only there because Hackett asked her to go. Not ordered, asked. It's very easy for Shepard to just not go and some marines do the deed instead. Kenson is also minutes away from being tortured and likely killed. 

If it was a trap then it's the stupidest f*cking trap in a long time. 

[AresKeith]

Apparently I heard the ending has James Vega in N7 armor

[Wayning_Star]

3DandBeyond wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

Ok, then if you watched it...Tell methe ending, or at least how one peson on the squad dies.

Well, please read my posts.  I specifically said I didn't watch the whole thing and I don't need to in order to know I don't like it.  How many times do you want me to say the same thing I've said already.  You don't read posts, you see a post and then imagine what the person has said and then hit reply.  I don't like the cartoon.  I can't get past about ten minutes of it.  I instantly dislike Captain Tony.  I don't care for how Vega is drawn or the inane dialogue at the beginning.  The fact I got through ten minutes of it is a big deal and even that was very tough.  So, I didn't finish it and I'm not interested in the ending.  But if it's now part of ME lore, in the end Shepard gets to make one of three choices or can refuse to choose.

it does have a fanon gist to it, from what little I seen. I've not read any of the extra game stuff either. The story should hold it's own without external props, in any event.

[Wayning_Star]

AresKeith wrote...

Apparently I heard the ending has James Vega in N7 armor

Yeah, he bought them off a Volus. Got a good deal on'em..

[3DandBeyond]

Wayning_Star wrote...


I tried to find it, but it appears to be taboo'd off youtube.. What I seen was a review praising it as ok as ME stuff, with apparent flaws with presentation. I didn't get the swarmers there tho, as they're used later in game. It would seem the alliance wouldn't of been 'mystified' by them by that time if Vega has a run in with them? That pesky lore clash again?

really tho, it seemed to be merely commercial, more than any lore booster.. imho

Check your messages.

[dreman9999]

The Night Mammoth wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

The Night Mammoth wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

The Night Mammoth wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...
1. They build the base around the becaon.
2.The indoctrination starts from the time they found it.

Did they or did they not study Object Rho whilst it was in that location? Did they or did they not then plan to blow up the Alpha Relay because of what they discovered?

3.Sure, they had no idea Shepard was coming, but the reaper did. Indoctrinated pawns don't make the plan, they are just used in them.

What Reaper? How did they know Shepard was coming to the Bahak system?

1.Sure, also Saren was planning to save all organic life by betraying them to the reapers and TIM belevied that controling the reaper was a way to uplift humanity...And it was clear they were both indoctrianted....Indoctrianted is used by reapers to warp the persons beliefs to do what the reapers want without the person knowing. They were pawn of the reapers and did not know. Thus how it became a trap.

They served a purpose. What purpose did outright preventing the Reapers from entering the galaxy serve? If it was a trap, why the f*ck did the Reapers actually let them modify the asteroid?

2. Harbinger. It clear everything happen just so they can capture Shepard. It was a trap, literaly.

Harbinger somehow indoctrinated Hackett and made him ask Shepard to go to the Bahak system? 

1.Indoctrination works slowly.They let them do the project so they would not know they were being indoctrinated.

I'd think the Reapers would draw the line at letting them convert the asteroid into a giant missile and set it on a collision course. 

2. More like Harbingerfound out dr. Kenson works for Hacket and got her to get captured knowing Shepardwould came because ofher reserch with reaper tech and the fact all reaper related project gets overheardby Shepard

It's conjecture then. Shepard is only there because Hackett asked her to go. Not ordered, asked. It's very easy for Shepard to just not go and some marines do the deed instead. Kenson is also minutes away from being tortured and likely killed. 

If it was a trap then it's the stupidest f*cking trap in a long time. 

1. Yet some how they never make the team disable it.
2.The reapers well know the Shepard and his allies are hunting down any lead to info of the reapers, so it's clear the reapers can anticipated the reaction Shepard and his allies would take. They knew that in some way Shepard would here's about a scientist that can prove the reapers and if that scientist was captured, Shepard would come for that scientist. They estimated it as a probability.

Added, it's clear it was a trap being that they did capture Shepard. It almost worked if not for Shepard's implants.

[3DandBeyond]

Ok, so now here's another problem with this thread OP. Apparently people are required to prove they have watched the whole movie by including spoilers (you asked me to describe the ending), but you say this thread contains no spoilers. So how can someone do this? And now you are including spoilers because you are discussing whole parts of the thing. I think you need to change the topic title. Just a suggestion, because of the spoilers.

[AresKeith]

Ok so I just watched the whole movie and I have to say that movie was...... amazing

[3DandBeyond]

AresKeith wrote...

Ok so I just watched the whole movie and I have to say that movie was...... amazing

Hmm sounds about right.

[dreman9999]

3DandBeyond wrote...

Ok, so now here's another problem with this thread OP. Apparently people are required to prove they have watched the whole movie by including spoilers (you asked me to describe the ending), but you say this thread contains no spoilers. So how can someone do this? And now you are including spoilers because you are discussing whole parts of the thing. I think you need to change the topic title. Just a suggestion, because of the spoilers.

No ..just youhave to prove it being that you came in the topi c head first saying you didn't watch it.

I don't care if you like it or not. If someone come in and said they watch it and hated it, I would be ok with it. They at least made the effort.
Adde, you can always pm me the info.

Modifié par dreman9999, 21 décembre 2012 - 08:47 .

[dreman9999]

AresKeith wrote...

Ok so I just watched the whole movie and I have to say that movie was...... amazing

Now I know you're trolling me.

[Bill Casey]

It's certainly great by "anime based on games" standards...
The ending is really good...

Modifié par Bill Casey, 21 décembre 2012 - 08:39 .

[AresKeith]

dreman9999 wrote...

AresKeith wrote...

Ok so I just watched the whole movie and I have to say that movie was...... amazing

Now I know you're trolling me.

No I'm not, 3D sent me the link to the whole movie. I'm surprised at how good it is

[The Night Mammoth]

dreman9999 wrote...
1. Yet some how they never make the team disable it.

And that supports what you're saying how? 

2.The reapers well know the Shepard and his allies are hunting down any lead to info of the reapers, so it's clear the reapers can anticipated the reaction Shepard and his allies would take. They knew that in some way Shepard would here's about a scientist that can prove the reapers and if that scientist was captured, Shepard would come for that scientist. They estimated it as a probability.

Added, it's clear it was a trap being that they did capture Shepard. It almost worked if not for Shepard's implants.

If they Reapers planned to trap Shepard, why did they rely on so many unknown factors, like Hackett, or allow Kenson to be captured and almost tortured and killed for information? 

Too many assumptions. 

[dreman9999]

AresKeith wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

AresKeith wrote...

Ok so I just watched the whole movie and I have to say that movie was...... amazing

Now I know you're trolling me.

No I'm not, 3D sent me the link to the whole movie. I'm surprised at how good it is

Ok...It ether the world realy has ended or I've gone insane.

[dreman9999]

The Night Mammoth wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...
1. Yet some how they never make the team disable it.

And that supports what you're saying how? 

2.The reapers well know the Shepard and his allies are hunting down any lead to info of the reapers, so it's clear the reapers can anticipated the reaction Shepard and his allies would take. They knew that in some way Shepard would here's about a scientist that can prove the reapers and if that scientist was captured, Shepard would come for that scientist. They estimated it as a probability.

Added, it's clear it was a trap being that they did capture Shepard. It almost worked if not for Shepard's implants.

If they Reapers planned to trap Shepard, why did they rely on so many unknown factors, like Hackett, or allow Kenson to be captured and almost tortured and killed for information? 

Too many assumptions. 

1.It counters your point.
2.It's an issue that if it did fail, they still would not lose. It the same case with the collector ship trap they did. There was no 100% asserance Shepard would come but they did the trap any way.

[AresKeith]

dreman9999 wrote...

AresKeith wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

AresKeith wrote...

Ok so I just watched the whole movie and I have to say that movie was...... amazing

Now I know you're trolling me.

No I'm not, 3D sent me the link to the whole movie. I'm surprised at how good it is

Ok...It ether the world realy has ended or I've gone insane.

One of the best things I've seen since Deception

[The Night Mammoth]

dreman9999 wrote...

The Night Mammoth wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...
1. Yet some how they never make the team disable it.

And that supports what you're saying how? 

2.The reapers well know the Shepard and his allies are hunting down any lead to info of the reapers, so it's clear the reapers can anticipated the reaction Shepard and his allies would take. They knew that in some way Shepard would here's about a scientist that can prove the reapers and if that scientist was captured, Shepard would come for that scientist. They estimated it as a probability.

Added, it's clear it was a trap being that they did capture Shepard. It almost worked if not for Shepard's implants.

If they Reapers planned to trap Shepard, why did they rely on so many unknown factors, like Hackett, or allow Kenson to be captured and almost tortured and killed for information? 

Too many assumptions. 

1.It counters your point.

How?

2.It's an issue that if it did fail, they still would not lose. It the same case with the collector ship trap they did. There was no 100% asserance Shepard would come but they did the trap any way.

The difference being that they actively lured Shepard to the Collector ship, and did f*ck all to lure her to the Bahak system. 

The Reapers could have just had one of their indoctrinated thralls contact Shepard and tell her all about it, but no, they relied on a complete unknown to just let Shepard know the project existed. 

[dreman9999]

The Night Mammoth wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

The Night Mammoth wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...
1. Yet some how they never make the team disable it.

And that supports what you're saying how? 

2.The reapers well know the Shepard and his allies are hunting down any lead to info of the reapers, so it's clear the reapers can anticipated the reaction Shepard and his allies would take. They knew that in some way Shepard would here's about a scientist that can prove the reapers and if that scientist was captured, Shepard would come for that scientist. They estimated it as a probability.

Added, it's clear it was a trap being that they did capture Shepard. It almost worked if not for Shepard's implants.

If they Reapers planned to trap Shepard, why did they rely on so many unknown factors, like Hackett, or allow Kenson to be captured and almost tortured and killed for information? 

Too many assumptions. 

1.It counters your point.

How?

2.It's an issue that if it did fail, they still would not lose. It the same case with the collector ship trap they did. There was no 100% asserance Shepard would come but they did the trap any way.

The difference being that they actively lured Shepard to the Collector ship, and did f*ck all to lure her to the Bahak system. 

The Reapers could have just had one of their indoctrinated thralls contact Shepard and tell her all about it, but no, they relied on a complete unknown to just let Shepard know the project existed. 

1.It shows that the reapers did leave the project going even with everyone was indoctrianted.
2.They are trying to make it not look like a trap and the project can't make out going communication or they would be found by the batarians. Added the fastest way to contact Shepard, who is on a stelth ship that has very little ways for someone not associated the Shepard and his crew to contact is through Shepard's allies. Hacket is one of Shepard's allies.

[dreman9999]

AresKeith wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

AresKeith wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

AresKeith wrote...

Ok so I just watched the whole movie and I have to say that movie was...... amazing

Now I know you're trolling me.

No I'm not, 3D sent me the link to the whole movie. I'm surprised at how good it is

Ok...It ether the world realy has ended or I've gone insane.

One of the best things I've seen since Deception

Glad to say I was right to say you were trolling me.

[The Night Mammoth]

dreman9999 wrote...

1.It shows that the reapers did leave the project going even with everyone was indoctrianted.

Ah, it's confirmed, the Reapers are just idiots.

2.They are trying to make it not look like a trap and the project can't make out going communication or they would be found by the batarians.

They were already found out by the batarians.

What you're saying is their plan was to not actually do anything to lure Shepard there at all, as part of their master plan to lure her into a trap. 

So their plan to lure Shepard into a trap was to... not lure her into a trap.

Don't you think there's something wrong there? 

Added the fastest way to contact Shepard, who is on a stelth ship that has very little ways for someone not associated the Shepard and his crew to contact is through Shepard's allies. Hacket is one of Shepard's allies.

Relying on Hackett to contact him independantly doesn't make any sense. 

Modifié par The Night Mammoth, 21 décembre 2012 - 09:08 .

[3DandBeyond]

dreman9999 wrote...


Ok...It ether the world realy has ended or I've gone insane.

Is this a trick question?  I mean do we have to pick one?  It makes me uncomfortable when one clearly isn't true and the other is well, compelling.

Modifié par 3DandBeyond, 21 décembre 2012 - 09:12 .