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[inarvan]

I'm all for as many customization options as we can get for our PC. Tattoos, scars, war paint, or whatever.

[Harle Cerulean]

Nizaris1 wrote...

Harle Cerulean wrote...
Yeah, no. For multiple reasons, including but not limited to:
1) Fenris can't 'do magic,' his lyrium has limited applications which more resemble a mix between the abilities of a Templar and a Spirit Warrior than a mage;
2) Fenris was the product of a Tevinter magister's experimenting, this isn't going to be something you can have done in a back alley tattoo parlor; if anyone has knowledge to replicate it, it's going to be other Magisters, and
3) Maybe you missed this, but lyrium is expensive. Tattoos like Fenris' require a fortune to create. You're not going to start out with a fortune of lyrium in your skin.
Also 4) Amnesiac heroes are so overdone.

(Also, we're not in a 'new Age'. It's still the Dragon Age. Nice try, though.)

1. Fenris can do magic because of the Lyrium tattoo,
i. he can grab people heart with his hand
ii. enhanced movement speed
iii. release inner power that give spirit damage
iv. resistance to magic

The only one of those things that's "magic" is the first - and it's not an ability any mage we know of has.  It has more in common with a Spirit Warrior's ability to put their body partially into the Fade than it does a mage's abilities.  He is, in effect, a Spirit Warrior, except using lyrium to grant those abilities rather than a bargain with a spirit.

Nizaris1 wrote...

2. considering how long the time period between DA2 and DA3, maybe it have become popular at the time DA3 take place

You have no idea how long the time period between them is.  And using logic shows that actually, it's not that long.  It makes the most sense for DA3 to occur pretty much directly after Asunder, which is about three-four years after DA2.  In the end, that's speculation as well, but it's logical speculation, where as your suggestion of a long gap is utterly unfounded.

Nizaris1 wrote...

3. expansive or cheap is not an issue at all

Oh really?  So you think just anyone can go and get lyrium tattoos and they'll . . . what, get a loan from the bank?  Take out a mortgage on their skin?

Nizaris1 wrote...

4. Fenris lost memory not because of the Lyrium or the ritual making it, it is totally different thing. Denarius mind wipe him with something else. If you turn him to Denarius, he lost his memory again, meaning the ritual making the tattoo is not the cause of his memory lost

Just because Danarius erases his memory deliberately then, that doesn't mean it was done deliberately before.  Severe trauma can in fact cause amnesia, and I would expect that putting lyrium in Fenris' skin was a difficult enough process without adding trying to erase his memory at the same time into the bargain.  It'd take more than just tattooing, after all - lyrium like that should have killed Fenris.  Danarius was undoubtedly using his magic for other things at the time - such as preventing Fenris from being fatally poisoned immediately.  Most likely the memory loss was a convenient accident.  Admittedly, that's speculation, but Fenris claims it was the pain of the ritual that destroyed his memory, and we have no proof he's wrong.

Nizaris1 wrote...

It is a New Age....Dragon Age ended with the 5th Blight...Mage-Templar war mark a new age...because it is a new game

Wrong.  Each Age lasts 100 years.  The Age isn't even half over at the end of DA2 - I assure you, DA3 is still in the Dragon Age.

[Todd23]

Yes please! Just no more face tattoos. Those get old fast.

[Saibh]

Nizaris1 wrote...

1. Fenris can do magic because of the Lyrium tattoo,
i. he can grab people heart with his hand
ii. enhanced movement speed
iii. release inner power that give spirit damage
iv. resistance to magic

Fenris is not a mage. Templars are not mages either, even though they use a form of magic by intaking lyrium. Being granted one single ability by use of a ton of lyrium is not the same as being a mage. It also defeats the purpose of a class-based party system.

And we're still in the Dragon Age. 

[Giant ambush beetle]

I was pissed that I didn't have the option to put a swastika tattoo on the forehead of my Hawke.

Ok, seriously now, aside from the more tattoos = good thing there should be more places than just eyes / cheek for tattoos. What about a scalp tattoo for a bald protagonist? Neck tattoos would be nice too.

[kyuubifred]

Freckles, please. I was so jealous of Aveline's freckles.

[Steppenwolf]

Nizaris1 wrote...

So Fenris with Hawke is 6 years already, do you think he is the only one like that in Tevinter? Denarius didn't make another one or many more or even an army of Lyrium tattooed warriors for Tevinter Imperium?

If Denarius can just make an endless supply of lyrium-imbued subjects then why is he going to such lengths to find Fenris? Why not just cut his losses and move on to the next one? Clearly the amount of lyrium in Fenris's skin and the time invested in the process was a substantial investment for Denarius.

[Manic Sheep]

Would be nice, as would scars and more skin tones. I like tattoos and more customization is always a good thing. Even if I don't see them 90% of time I like having them.

[Steppenwolf]

Nizaris1 wrote...

If Denarius can just make an endless supply of lyrium-imbued subjects then why is he going to such lengths to find Fenris? Why not just cut his losses and move on to the next one? Clearly the amount of lyrium in Fenris's skin and the time invested in the process was a substantial investment for Denarius.

If someone stole USA F-16 fighter jet, will USA just let it go? USA can make a lot of F-16 fighter jets, but USA will hunt down the jet

It is because of the technology. It cannot fall into someone hand.

Well, the F-16 cost $15,000,000 a pop, aren't being manufactured any more and several have gone down in enemy territory without being recovered so your example falls very flat.

[Steppenwolf]

And it's still nonsensical. How would another mage somehow steal Denarius' secrets from Fenris? Fenris isn't a computer with data ready to be plundered.

[Steppenwolf]

Because magic is not a science. If you found a magical frog from fairyland that can turn donkeys into Pez with it's burps do you think someone would just be able to replicate it?

[NoForgiveness]

i would love tattoos all over, i dont care if i can see them or not, i want to make my girl pretty like Jack. as for the lyrium tattoos, no 1) i dont see anyone willingly submitting to something that painful and traumatizing for the minor abilities that fenris has or to look pretty. 2) it would make fenris way less unique.

[Rorschachinstein]

MR_PN wrote...

i would love tattoos all over, i dont care if i can see them or not, i want to make my girl pretty like Jack. as for the lyrium tattoos, no 1) i dont see anyone willingly submitting to something that painful and traumatizing for the minor abilities that fenris has or to look pretty. 2) it would make fenris way less unique.

If the game does go to the Imperium, I'd love to tackle a group of mage hunters with Lyrium tattoos.

[NoForgiveness]

Rorschachinstein wrote...

MR_PN wrote...

i would love tattoos all over, i dont care if i can see them or not, i want to make my girl pretty like Jack. as for the lyrium tattoos, no 1) i dont see anyone willingly submitting to something that painful and traumatizing for the minor abilities that fenris has or to look pretty. 2) it would make fenris way less unique.

If the game does go to the Imperium, I'd love to tackle a group of mage hunters with Lyrium tattoos.

sure i doubt denarius was the only one with the knowledge to create lyrium tattoos, and there are plenty of slaves

[Rorschachinstein]

MR_PN wrote...

Rorschachinstein wrote...

MR_PN wrote...

i would love tattoos all over, i dont care if i can see them or not, i want to make my girl pretty like Jack. as for the lyrium tattoos, no 1) i dont see anyone willingly submitting to something that painful and traumatizing for the minor abilities that fenris has or to look pretty. 2) it would make fenris way less unique.

If the game does go to the Imperium, I'd love to tackle a group of mage hunters with Lyrium tattoos.

sure i doubt denarius was the only one with the knowledge to create lyrium tattoos, and there are plenty of slaves

I'm not sure Slaves would be the best for Lyrium tattoos, seeing as only warriors as good as Fenris would have them. 

[NoForgiveness]

and there cant be warrior slaves? and besides power hungry or not i dont think anyone would submit to that. its not like a golem were you would be invulnerable.

Modifié par MR_PN, 23 décembre 2012 - 05:53 .

[TEWR]

The only one of those things that's "magic" is the first - and it's not an ability any mage we know of has. It has more in common with a Spirit Warrior's ability to put their body partially into the Fade than it does a mage's abilities. He is, in effect, a Spirit Warrior, except using lyrium to grant those abilities rather than a bargain with a spirit.

It is magic. As his abilities are in line with a Templar's and a Spirit Warriors -- the two schools of training have much in common -- that's enough to call it magic, since a Templar and a Spirit Warrior both perform magic.

In addition, David Gaider himself said that the Templar abilities are magic because they derive themselves from lyrium, which he called magic in its raw form.

So, yes, Fenris' abilities are magic.

As for having them be given to the PC as Nizaris1 wants? To that I say: Hell no.

[NoForgiveness]

The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...

The only one of those things that's "magic" is the first - and it's not an ability any mage we know of has. It has more in common with a Spirit Warrior's ability to put their body partially into the Fade than it does a mage's abilities. He is, in effect, a Spirit Warrior, except using lyrium to grant those abilities rather than a bargain with a spirit.

It is magic. As his abilities are in line with a Templar's and a Spirit Warriors -- the two schools of training have much in common -- that's enough to call it magic, since a Templar and a Spirit Warrior both perform magic.

In addition, David Gaider himself said that the Templar abilities are magic because they derive themselves from lyrium, which he called magic in its raw form.

So, yes, Fenris' abilities are magic.

As for having them be given to the PC as Nizaris1 wants? To that I say: Hell no.

id agree it is magic, everyone has a connection to they fade mage or not. lyrium just strengthens the connection enough to be able to draw from the fade

[DarkSpiral]

I would totally be down with freckles. One of my favorite mods allowed me to use the same freckles Aveline has as a tattoo for my Hawke.

[samgrave]

In Planescape Torment tattoos actually served a purpose as the Nameless Onje wore them for magical protection.

http://www.webcitation.org/5iqx3F0nL

Not saying this ought to be the case here, but it should be a customisable feature, just in the same way that facial hair is. The article below illustrates some more or less well-known inked charachters of video gaming:

http://unrealitymag....ame-characters/

[Seuzie Weuzie]

More facial tats to go along with the ones we already have and I'm a happy sailor.