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If they don't tie the plot for Hawke and Warden, would you still buy DA3?


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Well yeah, how would you feel if you watched a 40 hour movie which ended on a bit of a cliff hanger? You get to the next part and it has no damn relevance to the first one..

Call me crazy, but I'd be pretty miffed.


Are you referring to DA2? Because what was set up in DA2 seems like it will most definitely be at the center of attention in DA3, that being the mage/templar conflict.

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I'm confused because the Hawke and Warden have very little in common besides that they are important people. Why would their plots be tied together, the Warden ended a blight and the Champion started a war. I can see Hawke returning in some form, but I'll eat my hat if the Warden appears in DA:I.

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bigbad1013 wrote...

ShadowAMD wrote...


Well yeah, how would you feel if you watched a 40 hour movie which ended on a bit of a cliff hanger? You get to the next part and it has no damn relevance to the first one..

Call me crazy, but I'd be pretty miffed.


Are you referring to DA2? Because what was set up in DA2 seems like it will most definitely be at the center of attention in DA3, that being the mage/templar conflict.

hes talking about hawke and the warden "disapearing" if they were just like POOF! gone that would be a big middle finger from bioware

Modifié par MR_PN, 20 décembre 2012 - 09:07 .


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bigbad1013 wrote...

ShadowAMD wrote...


Well yeah, how would you feel if you watched a 40 hour movie which ended on a bit of a cliff hanger? You get to the next part and it has no damn relevance to the first one..

Call me crazy, but I'd be pretty miffed.


Are you referring to DA2? Because what was set up in DA2 seems like it will most definitely be at the center of attention in DA3, that being the mage/templar conflict.


All of it really, the missing parts of DA1 and 2..

I edited the last part before your post:

It doesn't have to be playable characters, it doesn't have to revolve around DA3.. But if you start a story finish the damn thing.. I'll put up half a table for you.. I'll give you half a car? Some logic is missing somewhere.

Modifié par ShadowAMD, 20 décembre 2012 - 09:05 .


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XX-Pyro wrote...

I'm confused because the Hawke and Warden have very little in common besides that they are important people. Why would their plots be tied together, the Warden ended a blight and the Champion started a war. I can see Hawke returning in some form, but I'll eat my hat if the Warden appears in DA:I.


Hmm, the darkspawn are still hanging out taking up all my space.. This arch demon baby seemed to be of great importance in DAO? I actually thought it would lead to something grand and awesome. 

What is with all the dissapearing going on? What exactly happened?.. To Hawke and the Warden.

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All of it really, the missing parts of DA1 and 2..

I edited the last part before your post:

It doesn't have to be playable characters, it doesn't have to revolve around DA3.. But if you start a story finish the damn thing.. I'll put up half a table for you.. I'll give you half a car? Some logic is missing somewhere.


Well, If we are talking stictly about the Warden and Hawke disappearing, then I'm sure that they have something planned for that, though I'm far from convinced that it will be revealed in it's entirety in DA3. But you we are talking about the whole godbaby thing...I would point out that there are quite a few people who doesn't even have the godbaby scenario play out in their game.

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bigbad1013 wrote...

ShadowAMD wrote...


All of it really, the missing parts of DA1 and 2..

I edited the last part before your post:

It doesn't have to be playable characters, it doesn't have to revolve around DA3.. But if you start a story finish the damn thing.. I'll put up half a table for you.. I'll give you half a car? Some logic is missing somewhere.


Well, If we are talking stictly about the Warden and Hawke disappearing, then I'm sure that they have something planned for that, though I'm far from convinced that it will be revealed in it's entirety in DA3. But you we are talking about the whole godbaby thing...I would point out that there are quite a few people who doesn't even have the godbaby scenario play out in their game.


Another thing, what is the importance of it at all if you can just not do god baby?

Seems relatively pointless as well.

Although that is just one thing of many and not to be hung up on.

Modifié par ShadowAMD, 20 décembre 2012 - 09:16 .


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I actually think morrigan will use urthemiel to fight flemeth maybe flemeth will kill him?

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my Warden story was closed. or so I thinked. Because leliana had to speak just when I was going to take out of the PS3 DA2 to sell it...and then...MY WARDEN DISAPPEARED?!?!? I was just like "...what!?!?"
at first I thinked it was a bug. My Warden was female, and she didn't go with Morrigan and the child...
she should have returned to Alistair, and as Awakening's slide said, disappear many years later with her lover. for their calling, or just doing something for the Gray Warden. I really didin't care.
her story was over. Or so I thinked...
I was already quite annoyed because she wasn't with Alistair and the other Wardens when he appeared during the Qunari's battle, but I just let it be. She was probably at Amaranthine, controlling Oghren and investigating about the Architect and the talking darkspawn.
I haven't really great interest in what happened to Hawke, but I'm very interested in my Warden. I can even buy DA3, if it give me back the Warden. even for a little bit, just a mission or two. and end her story. even if it means going throught her Calling, and see her die with Alistair in a final epic battle against Darkspawn. (yum...that would be a great bonus...)
yeah, a last battle with my Warden would made me buy the game. even without the race selection for the new character.
but knowing is almost impossible, I can stay faithful on my principle of not buy DA3, at least not new

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ShadowAMD wrote...

XX-Pyro wrote...

I'm confused because the Hawke and Warden have very little in common besides that they are important people. Why would their plots be tied together, the Warden ended a blight and the Champion started a war. I can see Hawke returning in some form, but I'll eat my hat if the Warden appears in DA:I.


Hmm, the darkspawn are still hanging out taking up all my space.. This arch demon baby seemed to be of great importance in DAO? I actually thought it would lead to something grand and awesome. 

What is with all the dissapearing going on? What exactly happened?.. To Hawke and the Warden.


I agree with the OGB plot thread, but honestly it would still be a child at this time, wait for a later game for this plot thread to be tied. As for where the Warden went, through the Eluvian, dead, King, considering all the possibilies I'd say you're never going to hear from him again, whereas Hawke goes in the same direction every time, which I interpret to mean Bioware is not finished with him/her.

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That would be total deal breaker if Hawke and Warden were not involved .Why even call it DA3?


Because it's about the events that happen to the world not about a single or two individuals.... <_<

I personally hope they just ignore half of the plot threads from the first two games as it only bogs down the entire narrative. =]

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Yes, yes I would.

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Savber100 wrote...

PinkDiamondstl wrote...

That would be total deal breaker if Hawke and Warden were not involved .Why even call it DA3?


Because it's about the events that happen to the world not about a single or two individuals.... <_<

I personally hope they just ignore half of the plot threads from the first two games as it only bogs down the entire narrative. =]

bogs down? I think it makes it more exciting. Would you rather they had a straightforward plot like this is your enemy kill him and only focus on him? And not see the different injustices or impending qunari invasion?

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ShadowAMD wrote...

 A lot of unexplained things and a lot of time spent on DA / DAO and DA2..

After all that time and commitment with characters, would it put you off the game to simply remove Hawke and Warden and not tie up the loose ends?


Oh God no, I'd love that!!!

I detested the story in DA2 immensly and don't care if I ever hear or see anything to do with that depressing place and those awful characters ever again.

The story of the warden is done, I loved it but I dont need endless reminders of it.

Id like a new story, new characters..new armours and hairs too.

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Savber100 wrote...

PinkDiamondstl wrote...

That would be total deal breaker if Hawke and Warden were not involved .Why even call it DA3?


Because it's about the events that happen to the world not about a single or two individuals.... <_<

I personally hope they just ignore half of the plot threads from the first two games as it only bogs down the entire narrative. =]


There still has to be some sort of consistancy throughout, even if it's an old man telling the tale of the Grey Warden. It doesn't have to be much just something...

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Cell1e wrote...

ShadowAMD wrote...

 A lot of unexplained things and a lot of time spent on DA / DAO and DA2..

After all that time and commitment with characters, would it put you off the game to simply remove Hawke and Warden and not tie up the loose ends?


Oh God no, I'd love that!!!

I detested the story in DA2 immensly and don't care if I ever hear or see anything to do with that depressing place and those awful characters ever again.

The story of the warden is done, I loved it but I dont need endless reminders of it.

Id like a new story, new characters..new armours and hairs too.


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I'm not sure about tying them together, but I definitely want some answers. If they don't provide either, I'd still buy the game, but I'd be kinda disappointed.

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The Wardens story always felt satisfying at the end, So i am not particularly interested in this character any more.Lady Hawke on the other hand, who i liked and cared about is more interest to me and with the abrupt nature of the ending the door seems left open for something. 'Foggy' Hawke on the other hand not all that bothered about. But regardless i will be buying in for another installment.
I just hope that the French accents are good and don't remind me of classic BBC sit com 'Allo Allo', Otherwise this game is going to hard work for UK based players of a certain age.

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I kind of like the lack of closure. It lets me make up what happened and I prefer that in some sense. It bothers me a pinch that Lelianna and my Warden are no longer having snu-snu but I can live with the fact that something happened and he disappeared since he was the biggest badass in the history of every game ever. Makes sense that some **** somewhere would do some ish.

I always figured Hawke just found a way to drop off the map after all the crazy that went down.

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I just hope that the French accents are good and don't remind me of classic BBC sit com 'Allo Allo', Otherwise this game is going to hard work for UK based players of a certain age.


ohhhh hahahaha i cannae get it out my head now rofl

pssst i will say this only once

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I'd be very disappointed. Of course it's not like Mass Effect with a continuous storyline, but the stories belong together. I want that all I did in DAO&DA2 matters to this world.

I would definately don't buy it on release if they don't connect the storylines but I probably would buy it later when the price drops.

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Eh I would get it anyway. Don't get me wrong, I was not happy when I heard they cancelled the Exalted Marches Expansion, the only reason I had been fine with the cliff hanger ending of DaII was because I expected they would wrap the story up in dlc, expansions, etc.

That being said I do know they are thinking of involving the warden and Hawke in the da3 but I feel it should only be done if it works well. *shrug* Either way I am in for da3.

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Hell yes I want an explanation for the disappearance thing. I didn't need to see Hawke or the Warden again, because I thought their stories were indeed fnished, but since Bioware decided to end DA2 with a stupid cliffhanger, I now expect the situation to be solved in a satisfying way in game 3.

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Of course, we'll at least see the possible conclusion of the Mage/Templar war.

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I must be missing something somewhere, even after searching about. Nobody actually knows what happens to the Warden, what closes the story for people? That the warden disappears, find's Morrigan? Hawke just up and left.. For me irrelevant of how people enjoyed DA2, after spending time playing it I want some answers.

As said:

Intelligent Darkspawn are out there?
There is a potential god baby?
There is the disappearance of Hawke and the Warden to sort out?
What happens with the Architect?
What really happens to the Warden? There is still a threat out there. She / he is a Warden and will die some day, you don't disband from the Wardens or you die.

There are plenty more questions..

Modifié par ShadowAMD, 20 décembre 2012 - 10:11 .