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If they don't tie the plot for Hawke and Warden, would you still buy DA3?


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Yes, I would still go for DA3. However, at this time I am making no commitments until more info is released, but not having Hawke or the Warden involved would be fine. I think they may have disappeared to allow the player to give them whatever ending the player wants, or maybe they do have something planned, I don't know and I'm not setting up any expectations on this "disappeared" thing.

Only expectation I am keeping is a future awesome PC/companion who is the secret child of Morrigan, being the OGB or not merely implied but never said. Maybe in just a book or hopefully in a game, have a go at the classic "this is your destiny" storyline.

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Lol This thread is enjoyable to me.

Please, tell me again how you all think the Warden and Hawke will play important roles in the next DA game...

You all are playing Heroin Hero and don't even know it... chasing down that purple dragon.

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I'd rather they were not involved to be honest. It's time for completely new characters.

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Fast Jimmy wrote...

Lol This thread is enjoyable to me.

Please, tell me again how you all think the Warden and Hawke will play important roles in the next DA game...

You all are playing Heroin Hero and don't even know it... chasing down that purple dragon.


Who said they should play important roles? It is really simple, finish of the damn story.. However they plan to do it for me is irrelevant!!

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Absolutely would buy it. I, for one, don't actually feel the need to see those plot lines resolved "in house" so to speak. Isabela invited both Hawke and Merrill to take ship, and as far as I am concerned, thats where they went.

That is more pleasing to me, than what the writers might come up with as some sort of plot twist. Same goes with the warden. I've had more than a dozen different wardens, some followed duty, some followed love...

I've never had a problem with 'head cannoned' endings. The stories were basically resolved as far as the individual characters are concerned.

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Definitely not a deal breaker. I hope they don't show up, since they would no longer be my characters. The only "loose end" I see is their disappearing act which, while it bothers me, doesn't really need direct involvement from them to be resolved.

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Fast Jimmy wrote...

Lol This thread is enjoyable to me.

Please, tell me again how you all think the Warden and Hawke will play important roles in the next DA game...

You all are playing Heroin Hero and don't even know it... chasing down that purple dragon.



You are not a nice person Jimmy ..
And feel so ashamed for  laughing  at this.

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If the Warden/Hawke's disappearance is not explained, I will be disappointed, but it's not a dealbreaker.

DA3 is in a new land, with a new protagonist. And it's a new story. I'm okay with that.

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Fast Jimmy wrote...

Lol This thread is enjoyable to me.

Please, tell me again how you all think the Warden and Hawke will play important roles in the next DA game...

You all are playing Heroin Hero and don't even know it... chasing down that purple dragon.


You clearly don't see the connection. Hawke+gmilf Flemeth=obvious connection.

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It would be a selling point.

iakus wrote...

If the Warden/Hawke's disappearance is not explained, I will be disappointed, but it's not a dealbreaker.


I hope it's explained by not having happened.

Modifié par Icesong, 20 décembre 2012 - 10:43 .


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As far as I'm concerned, there are no loose ends for either Hawke or the Warden. The Warden is off doing what Wardens do. My Hawke is off with Anders doing subversive things with mages. I don't mean to be dismissive toward characters I spent months building, but I'm kinda ready for someone new.

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ShadowAMD wrote...

Fast Jimmy wrote...

Lol This thread is enjoyable to me.

Please, tell me again how you all think the Warden and Hawke will play important roles in the next DA game...

You all are playing Heroin Hero and don't even know it... chasing down that purple dragon.


Who said they should play important roles? It is really simple, finish of the damn story.. However they plan to do it for me is irrelevant!!


But their stories are effectively done, their impact on the world or the world events they were involved in are the continuing things.

I'm not entirely sure if a treatise on the mundanity of the wardens life as a new father with his cattier than ever Morrigan is particularly needed, he's just a warden now a powerful one sure but having him stroll around into new messes would just be contrived (though I do agree that the disappearances thing is perhaps abit overstated).

Likewise with Hawke he did his time and now he's on the run or otherwise probably a bit fed up of having the world blow up (sometimes quite literally) around him. The events they've taken part in will be remembered in legend but that doesn't mean the legends themselves are always legendary in behaviour or taking part in legendary activities.

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Filament wrote...

Of course I would. The plots of Hawke and the Warden are already tied up well and good. The whole plotline about their disappearance (and implication of their reappearance) feels wholly contrived and unnecessary.


Agreed.  There are a number of reasons why I'm on the fence about buying DA:I, but the lack of the Warden or Hawke storyline isn't one of them.
Bioware have stated many times that there'll be a new protagonist with each new Dragon Age game, we all need to accept this and move on.

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berelinde wrote...

As far as I'm concerned, there are no loose ends for either Hawke or the Warden. The Warden is off doing what Wardens do. My Hawke is off with Anders doing subversive things with mages. I don't mean to be dismissive toward characters I spent months building, but I'm kinda ready for someone new.


If The Warden is off doing what Wardens do, assuming everyone's Warden would want to be doing that, why wouldn't Leliana know about that, especially if she was the LI?

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ShadowAMD wrote...

 A lot of unexplained things and a lot of time spent on DA / DAO and DA2..

After all that time and commitment with characters, would it put you off the game to simply remove Hawke and Warden and not tie up the loose ends?


Nope.
For me, those two are separate issues:

I wouldn’t mind Hawke’s presence or absence. I didn’t enjoy playing that character much. As a consequence, whatever Bioware decides to do with it is not going to affect my decision of buying DAI.

As for the Warden, that is another issue entirely. I personally would prefer that the Warden was kept out of DAI. I would be fine with hearing rumours about the character, but an actual appearance of one of my wardens as an NPC?

That I’m not so sure; for example: how would the appearance of that character translate in the new art style and game engine? Would we get another Alistair or another Zevran?

More importantly, what about the warden’s personality and motivations?

Would Bioware make things neutral enough, or would we be confronted with a character that acts, talks and thinks nothing like the warden(s) we played?
I can this easily go either way. It can become a negative factor regarding buying DAI instead of an extra incentive.

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Icesong wrote...

berelinde wrote...

As far as I'm concerned, there are no loose ends for either Hawke or the Warden. The Warden is off doing what Wardens do. My Hawke is off with Anders doing subversive things with mages. I don't mean to be dismissive toward characters I spent months building, but I'm kinda ready for someone new.


If The Warden is off doing what Wardens do, assuming everyone's Warden would want to be doing that, why wouldn't Leliana know about that, especially if she was the LI?


They still went their separate ways, and I don't think they have cell phones to communicate with in Thedas.

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XX-Pyro wrote...

They still went their separate ways, and I don't think they have cell phones to communicate with in Thedas.


Not necessarilly.

Leliana tells Hawke in "Faith" that LI Warden is " is dear to my heart" implying they're still together.

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yes I will buy it

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Icesong wrote...

berelinde wrote...

As far as I'm concerned, there are no loose ends for either Hawke or the Warden. The Warden is off doing what Wardens do. My Hawke is off with Anders doing subversive things with mages. I don't mean to be dismissive toward characters I spent months building, but I'm kinda ready for someone new.


If The Warden is off doing what Wardens do, assuming everyone's Warden would want to be doing that, why wouldn't Leliana know about that, especially if she was the LI?

In my game, Leliana never made it out of Lothering, so her chances of being my Warden's LI are absolute zero. The chances of my Warden advising a known spy about her activies would be even less.

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iakus wrote...

XX-Pyro wrote...

They still went their separate ways, and I don't think they have cell phones to communicate with in Thedas.


Not necessarilly.

Leliana tells Hawke in "Faith" that LI Warden is " is dear to my heart" implying they're still together.


That doesn't imply anything that's your own interpretation. It's not a stretch to say what you're saying, but it is not at all a conceivable implication of her words. You can care about people you're far away from- that shouldn't be too abstract a concept for anyone.

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ShadowAMD wrote...

 A lot of unexplained things and a lot of time spent on DA / DAO and DA2..

After all that time and commitment with characters, would it put you off the game to simply remove Hawke and Warden and not tie up the loose ends?

I would be fine with not hearing about the Warden or Hawke again because the game is about the Dragon Age, not those characters. I think the writers would be remiss to not mention them because they are historic characters (some may argue that Hawke is not), but they are not necessary.

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I'd consider it a plus if we never heard about them again.

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berelinde wrote...

Icesong wrote...

berelinde wrote...

As far as I'm concerned, there are no loose ends for either Hawke or the Warden. The Warden is off doing what Wardens do. My Hawke is off with Anders doing subversive things with mages. I don't mean to be dismissive toward characters I spent months building, but I'm kinda ready for someone new.


If The Warden is off doing what Wardens do, assuming everyone's Warden would want to be doing that, why wouldn't Leliana know about that, especially if she was the LI?

In my game, Leliana never made it out of Lothering, so her chances of being my Warden's LI are absolute zero. The chances of my Warden advising a known spy about her activies would be even less.


Nevermind, I missed you saying "as far as I'm concerned". Don't you care about the rest of us though?!

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i'll certainly buy it, but 1) i will absolutely not pre-order it, and 2) i'll have no expectations for anything to make sense at all, because i learned my lesson with having those expectations prior to DA2 and ME3

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XX-Pyro wrote...

Icesong wrote...

berelinde wrote...

As far as I'm concerned, there are no loose ends for either Hawke or the Warden. The Warden is off doing what Wardens do. My Hawke is off with Anders doing subversive things with mages. I don't mean to be dismissive toward characters I spent months building, but I'm kinda ready for someone new.


If The Warden is off doing what Wardens do, assuming everyone's Warden would want to be doing that, why wouldn't Leliana know about that, especially if she was the LI?


They still went their separate ways, and I don't think they have cell phones to communicate with in Thedas.


I thought this made sense at first but was still wrong, but now that I've thought of several ways to refute it I realize it makes no sense at all.