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If they don't tie the plot for Hawke and Warden, would you still buy DA3?


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#176
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Yes I would buy it, I will be buying the game to play the role of the Inquisitor and whether Hawke or Warden is tied up in nice little bow or not has no bearing on that. I played the Warden and Hawke story in their respective games and can go back and play them anytime I want already. I don't need every single loose end tied up. They just need to make sure Inquisitors story is done well and better than Hawkes. Cut out the shoe box framed-narrative more 'personal story' telling that was present in DA2 and make it a much more grand epic story for DA3.

Their "more personal story" method of narrative in DA2 did not float my boat, it sank my battleship. :crying:

So grand epic adventure for next game please! :wizard:

Modifié par Dragoonlordz, 22 décembre 2012 - 02:55 .


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I'm still on the fence period without even considering those two options.

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I would be immediately interested if there was a Warden/Hawke Romance scene!

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Fast Jimmy wrote...

I would be immediately interested if there was a Warden/Hawke Romance scene!


That would be funny, even more so if their LI saw it.

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Rinshikai10 wrote...

Fast Jimmy wrote...

I would be immediately interested if there was a Warden/Hawke Romance scene!


That would be funny, even more so if their LI saw it.


-But he invoked conscription, no choice that is law.

-That is to join the order and drink the blood, not join the dude in bed and drink beer

-Oh! giggles, well errr.........

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I wouldnt be suprised if they did something simular to what happened with awakening. The warden and hawk will become party members but the story is still from the POV of a new character. If you carry over a save then its your warden and Hawk and if not then a generic version will be used. If your warden died then it can use the warden commander from Orlais that was used in Awakening.

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I Hawke cameo sounds great since Hawke has a voice actor and a solid canon to be able to show upl


But a Warden cameo just seems dumb

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I may not buy it either way... don't exactly have the most faith in Bioware these days.

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bigbad1013 wrote...
Heck yes I would still buy it! Considering that Dragon Age is not a trilogy, there is no reason why every single plot should be resolved in DA3.


Agreed!

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Plaintiff wrote...

Androme wrote...

 I wouldn't buy the game if they didn't continue or conclude their stories of those two characters, including Morrigans. Mass Effect is a perfect example of a god-tier success if they focus the entire series on a few people, unfortunately, BioWare seems to have caught some sort of fever where they simply won't admit to the fact that Mass Effect was a success because of that. 

Mass Effect is also set in space! The Dragon Age series should therefore go to outer space!

Also, Mass Effect has guns! Dragon Age should introduce guns, and then contrive it so that they are now the only weapon anyone uses ever.


And since you missunderstood my post, I should also missunderstand yours and therefore write that what you're trying to say is that you have poop in your pockets.

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I have no problem with them not being included in the game, though their choices should definitely have a place. I feel that the PC is what the story is told through, and not what the story is about.
For me the Dragon Age saga will first and foremost be about the story.

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The Warden and Hawke already got "ride off into the sunset" type endings, and DA3 will feature a new protagonist anyway, so I don't see much point in bringing them back.

Of course there could always be more to their stories, unless Bioware pulls a Conan Doyle and kills them off. But the series isn't really about a single protagonist the way Mass Effect was and it's probably better for them to focus on making the story of the new protagonist good by itself, rather than re-hashing previous games.

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In the case of Hawke I'd actually like to see Bethany or Carver show up. DA2's ending has him heading off for adventures with his LI so I'm not that worried about it.

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Wait wait you want tell me that bard who was screwed by own master , assassin who was easliy defeated , ****** who become king (optionally) even a puppet moron who cries because demon beat him and become right hand meredith and every other character which is not able to put together their lives will have important role but 2 gods of destruction and most powerful people in the world not eee is that have a sense?

Modifié par TheKomandorShepard, 23 décembre 2012 - 12:00 .


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TheKomandorShepard wrote...

Wait wait you want tell me that bard who was screwed by own master , assassin who was easliy defeated , ****** who become king (optionally) even a puppet moron who cries because demon beat him and become right hand meredith and every other character which is not able to put together their lives will have important role but 2 gods of destruction and most powerful people in the world not eee is that have a sense?


Those two "gods of destruction" have already changed the world. Make room for a new PC and new cast of characters, the fewer characters from older games I see the better in my opinion. I hate cameos for the sake of cameos. Leliana would make sense, and maybe Alistair if you made him king. All in all I just want really good reasons for bringing back old characters, but the Hawke and the Warden should be mentioned only, and never brought back. Each has had their story told already, don't beat a dead horse.

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XX-Pyro wrote...

TheKomandorShepard wrote...

Wait wait you want tell me that bard who was screwed by own master , assassin who was easliy defeated , ****** who become king (optionally) even a puppet moron who cries because demon beat him and become right hand meredith and every other character which is not able to put together their lives will have important role but 2 gods of destruction and most powerful people in the world not eee is that have a sense?


Those two "gods of destruction" have already changed the world. Make room for a new PC and new cast of characters, the fewer characters from older games I see the better in my opinion. I hate cameos for the sake of cameos. Leliana would make sense, and maybe Alistair if you made him king. All in all I just want really good reasons for bringing back old characters, but the Hawke and the Warden should be mentioned only, and never brought back. Each has had their story told already, don't beat a dead horse.


Yes yes they do but what the hell you wanna tell me that guys just go away far from thedas and leave army of harvesters , flemeth , Corypheus (possible) and world war behind and left behind their li and friends ?:whistle: its like shepard who surrvive whole me 3 and become no one important of course he could go to retire but no when world burns.image if emperor in star wars are disapear because he destroy whole jedi and republic and he change world and he gave vader his empire.If they end their story they shoud leave alone and not bring him in da 2 epilogue.Even it's hawke stumbled  and broke his neck is more reliable than he just disappeared and he is not important.They have time as protagonists but they are still heroes.Ok i can belive that if it's only one hero and he have reason like he don't care anymore because lost family , faith or other importat person for him it's like resurrection character like leliana, flemeth , anders if is only one character you can belive it if it's more hardly.   

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Androme wrote...

Plaintiff wrote...

Androme wrote...

 I wouldn't buy the game if they didn't continue or conclude their stories of those two characters, including Morrigans. Mass Effect is a perfect example of a god-tier success if they focus the entire series on a few people, unfortunately, BioWare seems to have caught some sort of fever where they simply won't admit to the fact that Mass Effect was a success because of that. 

Mass Effect is also set in space! The Dragon Age series should therefore go to outer space!

Also, Mass Effect has guns! Dragon Age should introduce guns, and then contrive it so that they are now the only weapon anyone uses ever.


And since you missunderstood my post, I should also missunderstand yours and therefore write that what you're trying to say is that you have poop in your pockets.

No, I understood perfectly. You made the completely unsupported claim that Mass Effect is successful because it follows the same protagonist and group of characters through the entire trilogy. You claim, again baselessly, that if Dragon Age were to emulate that feature, it too would become a success. And you summarily ignore the fact that there are extremely successful game franchises which do the exact opposite of what Mass Effect does, like The Elder Scrolls and Final Fantasy.

Clearly, the fact that Dragon Age changes its protagonist in every installment is not the problem.

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TheKomandorShepard wrote...

If they end their story they shoud leave alone and not bring him in da 2 epilogue.


Agreed.

It might help you accept heroes not returning if you don't view the whole of Thedas as within their domain. See them as regional. Jack Bauer doesn't go involving himself in Canadian terrorist threats.

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Icesong wrote...

TheKomandorShepard wrote...

If they end their story they shoud leave alone and not bring him in da 2 epilogue.


Agreed.

It might help you accept heroes not returning if you don't view the whole of Thedas as within their domain. See them as regional. Jack Bauer doesn't go involving himself in Canadian terrorist threats.


Yes but in witch hunt warden are involved in flemeth case if she appears he supose too grey wardens looking her too if you are orlesian warden you are sent by others to investigate. Hawke who knows if he is a warrior or rouge he can say screw this not my problem but if he is a mage they have personal reason to fight in mage-templar war. I for example have mage warden who romances with leliana so yeah templars want dead all mages so he have reason for fight too.Others can have queen who romance with alistair she is involeved in possibly war beetwen orlais and felerden.A lot job for them they are to important to just disapear in the mists of time. Even protagonist oblivion shows up in skyrim well mayby not as major character including his "personality" but he is ..well play and you will know that.:) For me warden should tacke flemeth case ,hawke mage-templar war or both flemeth.

Modifié par TheKomandorShepard, 23 décembre 2012 - 01:21 .


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TheKomandorShepard wrote...

Icesong wrote...

TheKomandorShepard wrote...

If they end their story they shoud leave alone and not bring him in da 2 epilogue.


Agreed.

It might help you accept heroes not returning if you don't view the whole of Thedas as within their domain. See them as regional. Jack Bauer doesn't go involving himself in Canadian terrorist threats.


Yes but in witch hunt warden are involved in flemeth case if she appears he supose too grey wardens looking her too if you are orlesian warden you are sent by others to investigate. Hawke who knows if he is a warrior or rouge he can say screw this not my problem but if he is a mage they have personal reason to fight in mage-templar war. I for example have mage warden who romances with leliana so yeah templars want dead all mages so he have reason for fight too.Others can have queen who romance with alistair she is involeved in possibly war beetwen orlais and felerden.A lot job for them they are to important to just disapear in the mists of time. Even protagonist oblivion shows up in skyrim well mayby not as major character including his "personality" but he is ..well play and you will know that.:) For me warden should tacke flemeth case ,hawke mage-templar war or both flemeth.


We don't know the full nature of the war yet or DA3's focus on it, but say it's like Oblivion was. A continent engulfed in conflict with you at the center. There'd be nothing stopping you from imagining your Warden or Hawke back in Ferelden dealing with things there, like I imagined Nerevar defending Ald-ruhn(though I don't anymore). If war were to break out between Orlais and Ferelden a Warden-ruler wouldn't have to be shown, their involvement could be handled entirely off-screen.

The possibilities shrink though because of the stupid disappearance bit. Flemeth is a good bet for that so you might get part of your wish.

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I'm not expecting them too so if I do or don't buy DA 3 it won't be because of this.

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Yes. As long as its a better game with more choices that affect the game, deep story, RPG elements and better graphics, I will buy it. Hoped for more Hawke so I can get some closer, but Im used to bioware not finishing there stories now.

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Androme wrote...

 I wouldn't buy the game if they didn't continue or conclude their stories of those two characters, including Morrigans. Mass Effect is a perfect example of a god-tier success if they focus the entire series on a few people, unfortunately, BioWare seems to have caught some sort of fever where they simply won't admit to the fact that Mass Effect was a success because of that. 

Out of curiosity,
Would you reconsider if they changed the title by removing the words "Dragon Age"?

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lol yes, I treat each game as its own entity anyways so it's not a big deal to me

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It really depends on how good the game is itself, and what things BW include from DA:O that I do like, and what things they omit from DA:2 what I don't. So far it's not looking good at all.

Personally I would sooner see the Warden make an appearance, and only have Hawke appear if he/she can be slaughtered.

I really, really, really despised the awfully voiced, awfully acted and schizophrenic Hawke, and his inclusion would definitely be a low point for me unless I was able to mutilate him.

Modifié par SpunkyMonkey, 24 décembre 2012 - 10:02 .