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Why are so many people playing gold PUGs when they clearly can't hold their own?


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UnknownMercenary

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A Destroyer with a GPR V.

This should be good.

#152
SeanThen1

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It is just brutal when you finish up a gold game and 2 people have under 20k.

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Blitzkrieg_33

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Felhand

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having pugged gold a few times with my volus adept I can say that carrying people with a support class gives you a entirely new perspective (mostly that of desk height) on how others play. Not everyone plays with their seriousface on, some just want the best use of their time with out going omfgbbq plat spawnnuking (im looking at you "armored compartment" gear equipment.) so gold makes the most sense.

That being said, iv seen some terribly stupid people doing stupid things, these are the guys who idolize leeroy jenkins and think jumping into hot burning lava is hilarious so running up and headbutting a fully shielded banshee repeatedly is probably on the low end of the stupid stick for some of these guys. Until I have a 'eject retard' on my power wheel I'll just have to do like everyone else, keep playing and give people the benefit of the doubt after all its the human condition to hope for something better.

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ValorOfArms777

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I'm working on this issue,

ME3 MP Apprentice Program

Group in my sig if you feel you can train somebody to be decent, give it a shot, take on a pupil or 3 and make them good players...if you can ^_-, I wanna improve community and players all round basis and I noticed similar things but sometimes these people get too frustrated and move back to comfy zone, we need to get them out of it and make anew comfy zone, make them capable and understanding

who agrees?

this isn't about carrying it's about "caring" so they won't be "carried" anymore

Modifié par ValorOfArms777, 21 décembre 2012 - 05:29 .


#156
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Maria Caliban wrote...

WilliamYZFR1 wrote...

Seems like one rule for "mates" and another for "Pugs". 

I despise hypocrites.

Please justify/explain the difference between a Pug random & VerySeed (Both with no gear or consumables)?


I think you mean you despise double standards.

But I have no problems with them.

Here is a list of things I'll do with people I know and not random people online:
1) Pick them up when their car breaks down.
2) Make them soup when they're sick.
3) House sit their dog.
4) Sit through a Twilight marathon.
5) Carry them game after game with no irritation.

 

:blink: You're far too nice.

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WilliamYZFR1 wrote...

VerySeed wrote...

WilliamYZFR1 wrote...


So if VerySeed can play on Gold with a Mantis 1 and no gear and consumables why can't Pugs???

Seems like one rule for "mates" and another for "Pugs". 

I despise hypocrites.

Please justify/explain the difference between a Pug random & VerySeed (Both with no gear or consumables)?

Thank you.



Damn, what's up your ass? What's it to you if Sirian wants to drag my scrub ass through some gold games?

Then again, the responses from Sirian/Maria Caliban sum up the situation pretty well.


TBH I have just returned to the Forum and am too lazy to trawl back through the thread to find the pertinent replies.

However, I will just say that it seems comical to me that people on here complain about randoms playing Gold with low level weapons and no consumables.

I personally don't care but a lot of people here seemingly would have kicked you before the match begun.


 

Someone tried to in one of our games. I politely asked them not to try to kick my friend. :innocent:  Like I said, I basically don't kick anyone unless they're griefing.

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Sgt Bilko

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I don't care if people bring an Avenger, GPR or even if they don't use consumables in my games, but no gear? thats a big no from me

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Last night, a random who had never extracted on Gold (N7HQstalking ftw) joined our U/U/G lobby. We got hazard glacier against collectors. He wasn't a leacher, which was nice, but he clearly wasn't used to Gold, and some N7HQ stalking showed that despite 0 extractions, he HAD tried several times and wiped on early waves. Nothing wrong with that; he's trying to get better, which is cool. He did okay, contributed, gelled when he needed to, all the things that indicate that an effort was made.

Sometimes, I think stuff like that's bad. They see an extraction, and they don't know they got carried. They think to themselves, "Gold is fine, you just need a good team!"

I'm not saying I think that everyone should be able to carry if they want to play Gold, because there are plenty of players that can't carry but don't have to BE carried. Sometimes, though, I think people just don't realize that they're a weak link, and I think they don't sort it out because they get carried.

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I have had real good luck with random gold. Occasionally there is a person u can tell is new to gold, but for the most part, from my experiences, most randoms are decent.

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Draining Dragon wrote...

Complaining about people who can't survive on Gold without help from their team.

In a Co-op game.

You're funny, OP.

You asked people in your text chat thread to actually read the OP. How about you try that yourself...

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Zero132132 wrote...

I'm not saying I think that everyone should be able to carry if they want to play Gold, because there are plenty of players that can't carry but don't have to BE carried. Sometimes, though, I think people just don't realize that they're a weak link, and I think they don't sort it out because they get carried.

I'm in that group, and I think the majority Gold players are too.  If Gold were restricted to only people who can carry, there wouldn't be many matches to go around.  The problem is that the number of people who do have to be carried is larger than the number of people who CAN carry.  And that's how Gold PUGS turn ugly quick. 

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Lord_Sirian wrote...

WilliamYZFR1 wrote...

VerySeed wrote...

WilliamYZFR1 wrote...


So if VerySeed can play on Gold with a Mantis 1 and no gear and consumables why can't Pugs???

Seems like one rule for "mates" and another for "Pugs". 

I despise hypocrites.

Please justify/explain the difference between a Pug random & VerySeed (Both with no gear or consumables)?

Thank you.



Damn, what's up your ass? What's it to you if Sirian wants to drag my scrub ass through some gold games?

Then again, the responses from Sirian/Maria Caliban sum up the situation pretty well.


TBH I have just returned to the Forum and am too lazy to trawl back through the thread to find the pertinent replies.

However, I will just say that it seems comical to me that people on here complain about randoms playing Gold with low level weapons and no consumables.

I personally don't care but a lot of people here seemingly would have kicked you before the match begun.


 

Someone tried to in one of our games. I politely asked them not to try to kick my friend. :innocent:  Like I said, I basically don't kick anyone unless they're griefing.



I think the funniest thing about that was that i still outscored them, even after they rocketed spawns on wave 11, and that kroguard stayed out of every objective trying to pad his score. :lol:

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Ashen Earth wrote...

I WANT MY CERBERUS HARRIER X AND I WANT IT NOW!



dont you already have a harrier xx by now:D

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I've been trying to play gold PUGs lately, but there has been quite large number of people who fail miserably, and I just can't play with them. I'm good, but not good enough to solo, which is pretty much what it boils down to. I need at least 1 other person who knows what they're doing.

I've had to drop down to silver games just to make any headway in my credits.

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LoneWolf3905

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I've only ever played Gold with friends. I fear what might happen if I tried Gold with people I don't know.

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Kleen-X

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Well. I use them for aggro and some added damage, so I can shoot stuff more peaceful.

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Because people are trying to, oh, what's that word that everyone seems afraid of nowadays? Oh right. LEARN.

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HellbirdIV wrote...

count_4 wrote...

Why are so many people playing gold PUGs when they clearly can't hold their own?


Because the difficulty gap between Silver and Gold is too wide. You can be too good for Silver but not good enough for Gold :P


This is true for me. I play almost exclusively on silver. I'm grinding towards the promotions N7 banner so i do go bronze for level 1-10 characters, or also to goof around with some good friends ive made on here when we just want to mess about and not care what happens in the match.

I go into gold on rare occasions because otherwise i'm never going to learn how to get good enough there by sticking to silver matches. Unfortunately at this point its still v reliant on how good the other players are. If theyre awful then we'll wipe, otherwise Ive made it to extraction on most matches, but yes Im prob being carried to some extent (usually the bottom score, but i do use consumables, willing to use as many medigel as necessary) so i dont go into gold that often.

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There's been and will be an influx of newbies, as well as people making the jump from Bronze or Silver to Gold. I can easily carry one or two, so I really don't mind. But the servers are too much for me to handle :)

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here we go again....it is not as bad as you're trying to make it seem....i play mainly public games, and i've had good ones, and not so good ones...but i've had more good ones, than not so good....it comes down to the luck of the draw...

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Grub Killer8016

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whateverman7 wrote...

here we go again....it is not as bad as you're trying to make it seem....i play mainly public games, and i've had good ones, and not so good ones...but i've had more good ones, than not so good....it comes down to the luck of the draw...

I DON'T NEED LUCK, I HAVE AMMO.

sorry, I couldn't resist :whistle:

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If I'm playing Gold, it's with a character I'm good
at clutching waves with. PUGs are unreliable
at best and detrimental to your health at worse.

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I need to vent.... just failed Gold Pug (wave 8).... Was using a batarian browler got sync killed by a phantom.... the first time a died this match nothing used.... and that was it.... the rest of the team was wiped out they didn't even used rockets no one had a clue how to fight phantoms....

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CapnManx wrote...

At least some of them are probably trying to stop sucking. You get good at Gold by playing Gold.

This. It's what I'm doing. We were all there, so I gebe the benefit of a doubt. Lets not forget that lag, bad RNG store luck, cheap enemies (Geth), nerfs, all play a role; they are likely not BSNers, so they never know until its too late