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[DSxCallOfBooty-]

I've been an advocate of decreasing the weight from it's current level to [2.0] - [1.4] since we got our hands on it.

Although, now that I've nearly gotten mine to X, I'll say that it's far from a TERRIBLE weapon, but it certainly isn't the best choice you can make for most classes.

[Cole Jones]

Here's one thing it can't be compared by. It receives no damage or accucare penalty ehen fired from the hip. SO you can, with some practice, smoke head shot's across the map without zooming in. (Lot's o fun really XD)

[HTTP 404]

I would be okay with a decreased weight.

I think the Crusader is one of the better looking gun, I wish I wanted to use it.

[baltoid]

I've been using it for the past couple of days to get the Challenge numbers. After that, I don't think I will anymore.

There is something pretty satisfying about exploding a Cerberus Engineer's backpack while shooting him in the chest, but the gun's weight and finicky aiming put it at a disadvantage compared to the Wraith and the Piranha.

[2Shepards]

Though i love the crusader for multiple shots, u really feel the lack of stopping power it claims to have.

[Asebstos]

Why are you mentioning damage and not mentioning ROF? That doesn't make any sense. Are you next going to say that the Mattock is better than the Harrier because it does more damage per bullet and weighs less?


The problem with the gun isn't damage, its that it has an idiotic aiming/firing mechanic that results in frequent misses.

Modifié par Asebstos, 24 décembre 2012 - 02:43 .

[Kingfurykiller]

i have tried this gun with so many different classes and been unable to kick**** when compared with my other available weapons. OP is right. it's just too heavy. the classes that idc about rec speed with have way better available weapons. weight reduction or maybe less wild recoil could help

[Boog_89]

I've had 2 crufailers in a row (crusader VI now) so I gave it another go last night
It works wonders against easy to hit enemies like brutes since you can easily hit them with 4 rapid fire shots
Targeting single smaller enemies and rapid firing will often just waste lots of ammo. I would be happy for a weight reduction and since it is a promo weapon significantly reduce the recoil - the high rate of fire cant really be utilized when you need to reacquire the targets head after every shot because of the recoil.
Only somebody with incredible accuracy would be able to take advantage of the rate of fire.

[OniGanon]

Crusader is fine. Learn to aim or learn to stagger.

You can't reduce its weight. It would invalidate too many weapons if it was lighter. It's already encroaching enough on the Saber's territory as it is.

[Poison_Berrie]

The biggest issue is the delay between firing and hit registration.
Otherwise it deals loads of damage, with a good RoF and a short reload time.

[dava6711]

I love it and use it all the time. It's extremely accurate, powerful, has a fast rate of fire (obviously not as quick as the piranha though), sniper rifles suffer a hip fire penalty whereas the crusader doesn't and it reloads rapidly. It's very heavy though....

[Randomical]

Today I have played three Gold games with my Crusader IV on TSent.
Two of them were against Reapers, and it absolutely wrecked everything. Well, Reapers are easy mode anyway.
The third match was against Cerberus. Wiped on the 6th wave. It was awful. I couldn't hit a single Nemesis and had to melee them... Should have used Disruptor Ammo.
After all it's still a good weapon. I will try it against Cerberus again when I level up TSent and take recharge speed for Overload...

[Jarlan23]

The polnt of the Crusader is it's verstility. Some guns may do more damage then it, like the Claymore, or Black Widow, but both of those guns have limited uses. The Claymore being very limited range, and the Widow being a sniper rifle. Crusader is good at any range, has armor pen already on it, large clip, fast reload. It's my favorite weapon and I do well with it. If I had the means to make a Youtube video I would.

[NuclearTech76]

I like the weapon on host but you have a point for it's weight the damage is pretty sad. You're better off carrying a powerful pistol like the Paladin. I really love the feel of the Crusader but it is an inferior gun to the Claymore, Wraith, Talon, Paladin, etc.

[NuclearTech76]

Redgoon23 wrote...

The polnt of the Crusader is it's verstility. Some guns may do more damage then it, like the Claymore, or Black Widow, but both of those guns have limited uses. The Claymore being very limited range, and the Widow being a sniper rifle. Crusader is good at any range, has armor pen already on it, large clip, fast reload. It's my favorite weapon and I do well with it. If I had the means to make a Youtube video I would.

That has got to be a joke or you're doing it wrong.

[DarkseidXIII]

Asebstos wrote...

Are you next going to say that the Mattock is better than the Harrier because it does more damage per bullet and weighs less?


The problem with the gun isn't damage, its that it has an idiotic aiming/firing mechanic that results in frequent misses.

Mattock X = Harrier X damage.

[TheSpookyAce]

It is a nightmare for me against Cerberus except atlas. I kept missing.

[Jarlan23]

NuclearTech76 wrote...

Redgoon23 wrote...

The polnt of the Crusader is it's verstility. Some guns may do more damage then it, like the Claymore, or Black Widow, but both of those guns have limited uses. The Claymore being very limited range, and the Widow being a sniper rifle. Crusader is good at any range, has armor pen already on it, large clip, fast reload. It's my favorite weapon and I do well with it. If I had the means to make a Youtube video I would.

That has got to be a joke or you're doing it wrong.

Not a joke. The bullet spread on it is high, so for max damage you should be pretty close to the target.

[NuclearTech76]

Redgoon23 wrote...

NuclearTech76 wrote...

Redgoon23 wrote...

The polnt of the Crusader is it's verstility. Some guns may do more damage then it, like the Claymore, or Black Widow, but both of those guns have limited uses. The Claymore being very limited range, and the Widow being a sniper rifle. Crusader is good at any range, has armor pen already on it, large clip, fast reload. It's my favorite weapon and I do well with it. If I had the means to make a Youtube video I would.

That has got to be a joke or you're doing it wrong.

Not a joke. The bullet spread on it is high, so for max damage you should be pretty close to the target.

Smart choke? I mean if you consider from the tower of dagger to the front of the map to be pretty close to one shot basic mooks on gold. The claymore is a sniper shotgun with the smartchoke and any character with accuracy bonuses.

[Original Twigman]

NuclearTech76 wrote...

Redgoon23 wrote...

NuclearTech76 wrote...

Redgoon23 wrote...

The polnt of the Crusader is it's verstility. Some guns may do more damage then it, like the Claymore, or Black Widow, but both of those guns have limited uses. The Claymore being very limited range, and the Widow being a sniper rifle. Crusader is good at any range, has armor pen already on it, large clip, fast reload. It's my favorite weapon and I do well with it. If I had the means to make a Youtube video I would.

That has got to be a joke or you're doing it wrong.

Not a joke. The bullet spread on it is high, so for max damage you should be pretty close to the target.

Smart choke? I mean if you consider from the tower of dagger to the front of the map to be pretty close to one shot basic mooks on gold. The claymore is a sniper shotgun with the smartchoke and any character with accuracy bonuses.

its less effective against armor mooks... overall though, for guys with shields/health, claymore can replicate the crusader and even outperform it unless you get a headshot with the crusader (which is easier on host and not so necessary for the claymore).

Overall, crusader is an awesome gun and fun to use.

[Sparbiter]

I've used this gun a lot since I posted this thread, and I'm starting to think that the actual recoil is contributing to the problem.

Recoil CAN be controlled, yes, but it will almost always negatively impact ROF.

Those citing the Crusader's ROF as a plus should probably reconsider, seeing as re-aquiring the target will cause more delay.

I've had more than a couple "rage" moments, where my shots were lined up perfectly and they simply did not register.

No, this isn't a "fun" gun to use. A skilled player can make it effective enough, but this gun is frustrating.

[Miniditka77]

Paynez wrote...

It's pretty good on host provided if you can consistently get headshots. If biower wanted to buff it they could:
1. Make it a hitscan weapon
2. Reduce weight to about 1.5
3. Increase headshot multiplier to x3
4. MAYBE increase damage a bit
IMO it's a pretty good gun on host if you can consistently get headshots.

The Crusader IS a hitscan weapon.  It just has weird aiming mechanics because it has a slight fire delay.  If your crosshair is highlighted when you pull the trigger, it will hit. 

All you have to do to make this gun unbelievably fantastic is to fix the aiming mechanics.  If the Crusader fired like the Paladin/Carnifex/Saber, it would be one of the best guns on the game.  At that point, you may actually need to keep the weight at its present point, because nobody would ever use the Saber again, and guns like the BW and Widow would be used only on Infiltrators for the Sniper damage bonus.

[Lord Rosario]

Forgot to mention all it's strengths there. More DPS than the Claymore, Wraith, and all snipers mentioned. Far more ammo in it's clip than any of those shotguns or snipers. It's got the accuracy of those snipers without the weakness in blind firing which no other shotgun has.

Anything that can handle the weight best take it if they have it at X. It's a great gun. Hard to use, but performs well everywhere. It's a jack of all trades sorta weapon while beeing quite good at all of them and having weaknesses to balance them.