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#1
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 I'm not sure this is the right forum for it, but this does have to do with possible future appearances of the ox-men, so here goes:

And no this has nothing to do with horns :P

Codex entries on the wars with the qunari mention them as clad in steel. Sten and teh qunari mercenaries in DAO  also show them as armored.  However, the Arishok and the qunari in Kirkwall wore bodypaint (or were they tattoos?) with little to no armor.

Now I have heard reasons for this:  The qunari have lived in a tropical environment for the last three hundred years and may have put aside heavy armor.  Historically, heavy armor went out of use after the development of gunpowder, Or just "they were shipwrecked and couldn't salvage their armor"

So, to my question: If the qunari were to hypothetically appear in Inquisition or in future games in a military, non-shipwrecked manner, would they be sporting armor or paint?

Or both?

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I believe they were similarly scantily clad in the comic. But I could be wrong. I think they've more or less dumped the heavily armoured Qunari thing.

Though having a bunch of armoured Qunari turn up could look totally cool.

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for me, it is better the Qunari of DA2 is just Varric version of BS-ing Cassandra...revert back to Sten of DA:O likeness...dark skinned giant with a character and not Hell Boy satanic look Japanese-Mongol warlord as in DA2

Funny how they make the elf convert wearing a turban, Arabic look, but the Qunari themselves have horns not being able to wear turban...i know your intention Bioware....

make Qunari look like Sten of DA:O

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They basically completely ignored the Codex when they did the Kossith redesign.

Apparently, it was the team's original goal to have them like that when they made DA:O but were unable. But you can safely delete the Kossith Codex entries seen in DA:O from your memory. They do not matter or count.

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Well, it could be that qunari who are expected to travel in dreadnougths at a moment's notice don't wear armor in case of shipwreck.

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Bioware...do you guys making Qunari converts look like this below just to make them look like Muslims?

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If yes, then what do you guys implying when making Qunari have Satanic look? With horns, red in color, war-like, gruesome and terror?

Funnily...Qunari of DA2 have horns, cannot wear the Arab turban-like head gear like above...

Modifié par Nizaris1, 21 décembre 2012 - 06:58 .


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Their ship sank. The qunari took off their armour so that they didn't drown as well. They had no smiths with them and the human smiths in Kirkwall were not prepared to equip a small army of qunari warriors.

Nizaris1 wrote...

Bioware...do you guys making Qunari converts look like this below just to make them look like Muslims?


Oh, please don't go there. That's not a turban and they're not dressed to look like Muslims. If you see that, then you are just looking for an excuse to be offended.

Modifié par Face of Evil, 21 décembre 2012 - 07:03 .


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Its probably more related to their duties. The shipwrecked Qunari in DA2 were sailors. Our sailors in the real world don't run around the ship in full body armor like the army infantry units on the front lines would wear.

There is probably a couple of sets for "marine" assaults on board the ship, but those probably sank with the ship.

Contrary to popular belief, knights of the middle ages didn't stroll around in their armor most of the time. Armor took a LONG time to get into and out of it, and was only used when a battle was expected to happen.

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Oh, please don't go there. That's not a turban and they're not dressed to look like Muslims. If you see that, then you are just looking for an excuse to be offended.

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Modifié par Nizaris1, 21 décembre 2012 - 07:12 .


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 Guys, this isn't about the qunari redesign.  It's simply about their armor, or lack therof.  Is armor or bodypaint the typical "warrior" look?

And yeah, the shipwreck is the most logical explanation for lack of armor.  I'm just wondering if that is in fact the case.

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Still not a turban, Nizaris. It's a hood with ear-holes.

Stop trying to be offended.

Modifié par Face of Evil, 21 décembre 2012 - 07:16 .


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Still not a turban, Nizaris. It's a hood with ear-holes.

Stop trying to be offended.


I am not trying to be offended, but i am offended...

If Qunari is being related to Ottoman Turk, by all means why the hell "Ottoman Turk" depicted having horns and satanic look? Who is Ottoman Turk? They are MUSLIMS...

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Nizaris1 wrote...

If Qunari is being related to Ottoman Turk, by all means why the hell "Ottoman Turk" depicted having horns and satanic look? Who is Ottoman Turk? They are MUSLIMS...


There is no relation between the qunari and the Ottoman turks.

Stop trying to be offended.

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The Qunari are not Ottoman Turks.

Except with regards to the Ottomans' relationship with Europe from the 13th-16th centuries.

This notion comes from a common misinterpretation of David Gaider's explanation that the Qunari are "militant Islamic Borg."

The comparison is meant to be one of relative politics only. In the comparison, the Qunari are to the Tevinter Imperium what the Ottomans were to the Byzantine Empire. End comparison.

Militant describes their hostility to compromise.

Islamic describes their political relationship to the rest of Thedas, meant to be intepreted as Christian Europe.

Borg describes their collectivist society.

Modifié par Upsettingshorts, 21 décembre 2012 - 07:57 .


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There is no relation between the qunari and the Ottoman turks.

Stop trying to be offended.


http://dragonage.wikia.com/wiki/Qunari

"The Qunari are quite likely based partially on the Ottoman Empire and Seljuk Turks, as they are mortal enemies of the Tevinter Imperium, the latter of which has been equated to the Byzantine empire. They possess advanced technology including cannons, are considered heathens by the Chantry and have been the target of multiple Exalted Marches, the Chantry's equivalent to a Christian Crusade. "

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You're just looking for reasons to be offended. Do you know what else has horns? Bulls have horns, and goats have horns. There is no reason to grab Satan right away.

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Nizaris1 wrote...

http://dragonage.wikia.com/wiki/Qunari

"The Qunari are quite likely based partially on the Ottoman Empire and Seljuk Turks, as they are mortal enemies of the Tevinter Imperium, the latter of which has been equated to the Byzantine empire. They possess advanced technology including cannons, are considered heathens by the Chantry and have been the target of multiple Exalted Marches, the Chantry's equivalent to a Christian Crusade. "


That is the Wiki's comments, not Bioware's. Someone NOT from the studio wrote that. It is not reflective of any statement that the company has made or their design of the qunari.

Stop trying to be offended.

Modifié par Face of Evil, 21 décembre 2012 - 07:26 .


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yes bulls, goats,and some creatures have horns, but only Satan depicted have horns, red skinned humanoid, can talk

Baphomet is the image of popular imagination regarding Satan, have goat head, horned...popular culture depicted Satan look like that

Now...my issue is, Sten in DA:O look decent, a dark-skinned humanoid giant with a character...i like that, and i don't mind at all if ever Sten is the representation of Muslim in DA:O even there is no Islamic at all about him

But in DA2, Qunari is depicted having horns, Satanic look...and being related with Muslims...and the convert look like Muslim...why the hell is that?

Modifié par Nizaris1, 21 décembre 2012 - 07:34 .


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Compare this Qunari...
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with this Qunari...
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Don't tell me not to be offended

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Make your own thread if you want to lodge another complaint about bioware's imaginary vilification of Muslims, ok? This thread is about the appearance of qunari re: their own lore.

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Nizaris1 wrote...

Still not a turban, Nizaris. It's a hood with ear-holes.

Stop trying to be offended.


I am not trying to be offended, but i am offended...

If Qunari is being related to Ottoman Turk, by all means why the hell "Ottoman Turk" depicted having horns and satanic look? Who is Ottoman Turk? They are MUSLIMS...


Not.  Why.  I.  Made.  This.  Thread!

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Qunari are not Muslims, nor representative of them.

Filament wrote...

Make your own thread if you want to lodge another complaint about bioware's imaginary vilification of Muslims, ok? This thread is about the appearance of qunari re: their own lore.


Also this.

Modifié par Upsettingshorts, 21 décembre 2012 - 07:43 .


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Qunari are not meant to be muslims so, stop looking for reasons to be offended.
If anything, christians have more reasons to be offended due to the vilification of the templars but you don't hear us b*tching about it.

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this is about appearance of Qunari...

look at the picture above

Why DA:O Qunari is decent look but DA2 Qunari is Satanic look...?

Why the convert look like Muslim?

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LOL There are plenty of Non-Muslims that wear turbans - that's fairly grossly un-educated of you Nizaris1.

The Qunari are anti-Zorostrianism! The Qunari are anti-Hindu!

Also - I'm fairly certain Islam doesn't give much face time at all to Shaitan