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[upsettingshorts]

iakus wrote...

 I'm not sure this is the right forum for it, but this does have to do with possible future appearances of the ox-men, so here goes:

And no this has nothing to do with horns 

Codex entries on the wars with the qunari mention them as clad in steel. Sten and teh qunari mercenaries in DAO  also show them as armored.  However, the Arishok and the qunari in Kirkwall wore bodypaint (or were they tattoos?) with little to no armor.

Now I have heard reasons for this:  The qunari have lived in a tropical environment for the last three hundred years and may have put aside heavy armor.  Historically, heavy armor went out of use after the development of gunpowder, Or just "they were shipwrecked and couldn't salvage their armor"

So, to my question: If the qunari were to hypothetically appear in Inquisition or in future games in a military, non-shipwrecked manner, would they be sporting armor or paint?

Or both?

This thread is asking why Qunari do not seem to wear armor, despite the Codex referring to them as armor clad.

It is explicitly not about their horns.  

[Dhiro]

I don't think that the Qunari look satanic.

[upsettingshorts]

Nizaris1 wrote...

The Templars in DA world don't wear a cross or whatever thing representing Christianity,,,but DA2 Qunari convert do look like Muslims, and the one who convert them have Satanic look

Look just save us the effort.

Are you ever going to accept that Qunari are not Muslims, nor representative of them?

Because if you aren't, there's really no use wasting our time and this thread's on trying to convince you of the truth if youre going to stubbornly cling to proven falsehoods.

[Iakus]

Upsettingshorts wrote...

iakus wrote...

 I'm not sure this is the right forum for it, but this does have to do with possible future appearances of the ox-men, so here goes:

And no this has nothing to do with horns 

Codex entries on the wars with the qunari mention them as clad in steel. Sten and teh qunari mercenaries in DAO  also show them as armored.  However, the Arishok and the qunari in Kirkwall wore bodypaint (or were they tattoos?) with little to no armor.

Now I have heard reasons for this:  The qunari have lived in a tropical environment for the last three hundred years and may have put aside heavy armor.  Historically, heavy armor went out of use after the development of gunpowder, Or just "they were shipwrecked and couldn't salvage their armor"

So, to my question: If the qunari were to hypothetically appear in Inquisition or in future games in a military, non-shipwrecked manner, would they be sporting armor or paint?

Or both?

This thread is asking why Qunari do not seem to wear armor, despite the Codex referring to them as armor clad.

It is explicitly not about their horns.  

THis.

And as the creator of this thread (and who is starting to regret it)  I think that should put it to rest.

The sole purpose of this thread is to ponder whether the "armored" look of the qunari in DAO and its codex or the "unarmored" look of the Arishok and Kirkwall qunari is the typical style of qunari warriors.  If we end up seeing qunari in Orlais or anywhere else, which look is more likely?

[Dhiro]

I kinda like the Qunari's lack of shir-- I mean, body tattoos. If they can find a sweet spot between the heavy armor and their markings then sure... but I think that it would just look silly. I'm okay with it either way though.

[Navasha]

Is this like how the gypsies were called gypsies because everyone assumed they were from Egypt, when genetically, their ancestors came from northern India?

[Face of Evil]

iakus wrote...

The sole purpose of this thread is to ponder whether the "armored" look of the qunari in DAO and its codex or the "unarmored" look of the Arishok and Kirkwall qunari is the typical style of qunari warriors.  If we end up seeing qunari in Orlais or anywhere else, which look is more likely?

I should note that the codex refers to qunari at war. They were attempting an invasion of all Thedas at the time, and thus it's natural that their warriors would be wearing armour.

However, the qunari in Kirkwall were not only sailors whose ship sank — as I alluded to earlier — but their purpose in Kirkwall was not to take over the city. If they had been an invasion force, it might have been a different story.

Yeah, Sten wears armour (as do the fake qunari in his dream), but that can be attributed to mechanics more than anything.

[upsettingshorts]

Navasha wrote...

Is this like how the gypsies were called gypsies because everyone assumed they were from Egypt, when genetically, their ancestors came from northern India?

No.  It's all because of one statement David Gaider made that the internet wildly misinterpreted to such an extent that he has said he regrets making it.

[MisterJB]

Nizaris1 wrote...
The Templars in DA world don't wear a cross or whatever thing representing Christianity,,,but DA2 Qunari convert do look like Muslims, and the one who convert them have Satanic look

When it suits you, you compare the Chantry to the Catholic Church.

Regardles DA Templars are called templars and wear armor and believe in a single God and their prophet was betrayed and slain much like the Templars of old. Those are much more blatant simillarities than a turban which can and is used by non-muslims, just so you know. Here is an hindu wearing a turban.


Qunari are not meant to be muslims. Period. Stop being offended.

Modifié par MisterJB, 21 décembre 2012 - 07:58 .

[Iakus]

Face of Evil wrote...

I should note that the codex refers to qunari at war. They were attempting an invasion of all Thedas at the time, and thus it's natural that their warriors would be wearing armour.

However, the qunari in Kirkwall were not only sailors whose ship sank — as I alluded to earlier — but their purpose in Kirkwall was not to take over the city. If they had been an invasion force, it might have been a different story.

This is true.

However, the ship they were on was a dreadnought, a massive warship carrying the Arishok himself, his retinue, and hundreds of warriors.  While it wasn't an invasion force, it was likely fully equipped for going to war.

[Plaintiff]

iakus wrote...

Face of Evil wrote...

I should note that the codex refers to qunari at war. They were attempting an invasion of all Thedas at the time, and thus it's natural that their warriors would be wearing armour.

However, the qunari in Kirkwall were not only sailors whose ship sank — as I alluded to earlier — but their purpose in Kirkwall was not to take over the city. If they had been an invasion force, it might have been a different story.

This is true.

However, the ship they were on was a dreadnought, a massive warship carrying the Arishok himself, his retinue, and hundreds of warriors.  While it wasn't an invasion force, it was likely fully equipped for going to war.

But then it sank, so how well-equipped it may or may not have been is no longer relevant.

I'm sure the Qunari wear armour when the Qun demands it.

Modifié par Plaintiff, 21 décembre 2012 - 08:03 .

[Althix]

mmm Arishok

btw qunari with velvet eyes. what dlc is that?

Modifié par secretsandlies, 21 décembre 2012 - 08:05 .

[MisterJB]

iakus wrote...
This is true.

However, the ship they were on was a dreadnought, a massive warship carrying the Arishok himself, his retinue, and hundreds of warriors.  While it wasn't an invasion force, it was likely fully equipped for going to war.

They were on pursuit, however. If they required more speed, the first thing going overboard would be the armors.

[upsettingshorts]

It's also possible that the Codex, written in-universe, was exaggerating.

Most pre-modern historians in the real world had little use for objectivity, and had an inconsistent relationship with facts.

Modifié par Upsettingshorts, 21 décembre 2012 - 08:06 .

[Iakus]

Plaintiff wrote...

But then it sank, so how well-equipped it may or may not have been is no longer relevant.

I'm sure the Qunari wear armour when the Qun demands it.

And like I said, the shipwreck is the best reason I've heard for the lack of armor in comparison to the qunari we saw in Ferelden.

But didn't someone say the qunari in the comic were dressed similarly?

[Face of Evil]

iakus wrote...

But didn't someone say the qunari in the comic were dressed similarly?

Yes, though they were in Seheron and not expecting a fight.

I think from now on we should expect qunari to be shirtless except in certain circumstances.

Modifié par Face of Evil, 21 décembre 2012 - 08:14 .

[MisterJB]

iakus wrote...
But didn't someone say the qunari in the comic were dressed similarly?

They are.



But we should take into account that they were in qunari territory and I don't expect them to walk around fully armored in their homes. Also, this was a tropical island so, it's possible they are expected to board a dreadnought at a moment's notice to fight off Tevinters and thus, shouldn't wear armors so they do not drown.

[Plaintiff]

iakus wrote...

Plaintiff wrote...

But then it sank, so how well-equipped it may or may not have been is no longer relevant.

I'm sure the Qunari wear armour when the Qun demands it.

And like I said, the shipwreck is the best reason I've heard for the lack of armor in comparison to the qunari we saw in Ferelden.

But didn't someone say the qunari in the comic were dressed similarly?

Yes, but the comic is about Isabela, Varric and Alistair travelling to the tropical island of Seheron, where the Qunari make their home.

If the Qunari were actually going to war, I imagine they would very likely wear armor.

[Althix]

is this a qunari women who want to be a men?

[MisterJB]

secretsandlies wrote...

is this a qunari women who want to be a men?

Nah, it's a priestess trying to convert Isabela.

[Althix]

... oh.

[Solas]

i heard qunari have two eyes, most muslims also have two eyes! clearly a connection. god bioware why are you so islamophobic

[Althix]

... you know. i never thought that elven converts looks like muslims... they looks like homeless people. you know - low town, docks - homeless. that kind of logic.

Modifié par secretsandlies, 21 décembre 2012 - 08:31 .

[Kidd]

Moreover, even if you were to consider the Qunari to be an allusion to muslims, why do you assume that's a bad thing? It's not like the Qunari are portrayed as evil in Dragon Age. They are portrayed as culturally different, difficult for others to understand.

The only thing in the world that portrays the Qunari as immoral is the Chantry. And why wouldn't it? It's an opposing religion. They also have problems with the dwarven and Dalish belief systems. It's an intolerant religion so of course people of its faith will look down on people of other religions. You should not look at what the Chantry says and does and think this is a moral statement right from the developers. We're even allowed to corrupt Andraste's ashes in DA:O and cause schisms in its ranks in DA2.

As for the horns? They look freaking cool. I'm pretty sure the thinking doesn't go deeper than that.

EDIT: Holy smokes, Batman. Did it truly take me an hour from commiting to write this post to hitting Submit? Haha.

Modifié par KiddDaBeauty, 21 décembre 2012 - 08:39 .