Good eye! Please quote where he said any of the things you're claiming. Because I see a pretty reasonable post that you're blowing out of proportion.Lord_Sirian wrote...
Pretending you didn't say something is pretty stupid considering this forum has a quote function.
Who legitimately enjoys playing against Geth?
#101
Posté 21 décembre 2012 - 11:26
#102
Guest_Lord_Sirian_*
Posté 21 décembre 2012 - 11:27
Guest_Lord_Sirian_*
#103
Posté 21 décembre 2012 - 11:28
#104
Guest_Lord_Sirian_*
Posté 21 décembre 2012 - 11:28
Guest_Lord_Sirian_*
polymphus wrote...
Good eye! Please quote where he said any of the things you're claiming. Because I see a pretty reasonable post that you're blowing out of proportion.Lord_Sirian wrote...
Pretending you didn't say something is pretty stupid considering this forum has a quote function.
Just did. Not my fault if you can't read.
#105
Posté 21 décembre 2012 - 11:29
YOU SAW THAT. SIRIAN JUST SAID THEY'RE GOING TO HIS HOUSE TO TIP HIM OUT HIS WHEELCHAIR AND PUNCH HIM IN THE STOMACH A BUNCH OF TIMES.Lord_Sirian wrote...
Stop playing the disability card. You act like you're the only person in the world with disabilities. Nobody cares whether you have a disability or NOT. It's not relevant to the argument in the slightest.
This is you Sirian. This is what you're doing right now. Look up strawman and come back.
#106
Posté 21 décembre 2012 - 11:29
Auld Wulf, wanting to be rid of annoying mechanics that severely punish very specific characters does not mean we all want Geth to play exactly like Cerberus or Reapers or Collectors. It means we want Geth to have less annoying mechanics that severely punish very specific characters.
Maybe instead of stagger, Plasma shots from the Hunter and Prime could slow your movement speed for 2 seconds. Things like Rockets and the Combat Drone can still stagger.
There you go, something unique that doesn't take control away from the player. I didn't have to give them sync kills.
Geth are not hard, they're just annoying. They shouldn't be annoying =P
#107
Posté 21 décembre 2012 - 11:30
Thanks. But he's just being intellectually dishonest to derail the thread, hoping that his intimidation tactics will get people to agree with his point of view.polymphus wrote...
Good eye! Please quote where he said any of the things you're claiming. Because I see a pretty reasonable post that you're blowing out of proportion.
But yeah, like anyone else, I have my good moments and my bad ones whilst playing. And honestly? I play against the geth a lot, I find them fun. Me and a good lady friend of mine have done quite well against them with our geth troopers. now, see, I don't think that makes me a good player. I just think that the geth really aren't that hard of a faction.
I faceplant a hell of a lot when fighting cerberus and the collectors. But the geth just tend to spawn in a place, hang around it, and... they're not really as tactical as cerberus are. Then you have those bloody smoke bombs that really mess me up. You can have an atlas come or a turret out of a pile of smoke if you're not listening and you don't have the ability to see through it.
Or you can be distracted by dealing with a smoke bomb whilst a phantom sync-kills you.
What do the geth have that's nearly as bad as that?
Edit: And I'm not saying that we should nerf cerberus or the collectors, either. I want to get better at a killer rather than have the factions homogenised.
Modifié par Auld Wulf, 21 décembre 2012 - 11:32 .
#108
Posté 21 décembre 2012 - 11:31
#109
Posté 21 décembre 2012 - 11:31
P.S. I haven't fought them on gold so I don't know if they're too hard or anything like that.
#110
Guest_Lord_Sirian_*
Posté 21 décembre 2012 - 11:31
Guest_Lord_Sirian_*
polymphus wrote...
YOU SAW THAT. SIRIAN JUST SAID THEY'RE GOING TO HIS HOUSE TO TIP HIM OUT HIS WHEELCHAIR AND PUNCH HIM IN THE STOMACH A BUNCH OF TIMES.Lord_Sirian wrote...
Stop playing the disability card. You act like you're the only person in the world with disabilities. Nobody cares whether you have a disability or NOT. It's not relevant to the argument in the slightest.
This is you Sirian. This is what you're doing right now. Look up strawman and come back.
That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.
Now sod off.
#111
Posté 21 décembre 2012 - 11:32
#112
Guest_Lord_Sirian_*
Posté 21 décembre 2012 - 11:33
Guest_Lord_Sirian_*
Uchimura wrote...
I'll bet melee characters get a punch out of it.
Drellguard against Geth = YAY.
Basically any CQC character with no stagger resistance is a lesson in frustration when you get Geth.
#113
Posté 21 décembre 2012 - 11:34
You can't deal with reading what a person says, so you write your own argument to counter.
Wow...
Nice going, man.
Edit: And you even rip the **** out of those unable to walk, which is a disability I don't have, just to make yourself feel better.
You're... kind of a monster.
Modifié par Auld Wulf, 21 décembre 2012 - 11:36 .
#114
Posté 21 décembre 2012 - 11:34
Uchimura wrote...
I'll bet melee characters get a punch out of it.
Melee Fury - Aiiiii learned by the great master !
#115
Guest_Lord_Sirian_*
Posté 21 décembre 2012 - 11:36
Guest_Lord_Sirian_*
Auld Wulf wrote...
You just love your strawmen, Sirian.
You can't deal with reading what a person says, so you write your own argument to counter.
Wow...
Nice going, man.
Accusing someone of using a strawman when they have done no such thing is a pretty low form of argument. I'm not going to waste my time with you any more.
#116
Guest_Lathrim_*
Posté 21 décembre 2012 - 11:38
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Auld Wulf wrote...
You can't deal with reading what a person says, so you write your own argument to counter.
Oh my God... that is one of the most used methods of arguing in human history... perfectly acceptable, even recommended.... duuuuuuuuuuude. Know *something* about what you're talking about before you let bullshit get out of your mouth...
#117
Posté 21 décembre 2012 - 11:38
#118
Posté 21 décembre 2012 - 11:39
Ahaha you're great. You attack my reading comprehension and completely miss the point. I wasn't making that claim, I was using it as an example for what you're doing. You are making a strawman argument; claiming his position is more extreme than it actually is in an attempt to discredit it. I was making an example of a strawman argument by taking your post and misrepresenting it. I've said this about three times and you've ignored all those posts in favour of misinterpreting the one where I said something extreme.Lord_Sirian wrote...
That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.
Now sod off.
Find me a post where he said ""NO NO NO, Geth are the LEAST annoying faction, DEY R EASY MODE AND NEED A BUFF". instead of things like "This is simply not true if you've specced the geth trooper's flamer into range. I can shoot as far as they do. Hell, I've done hilarious jousting runs at them. It's a blast!".
Go on, I'll wait.
#119
Posté 21 décembre 2012 - 11:40
Uh Cold wrote...
Geth are easy mode, stunlock is just a made up thing for people to blame when they suck.
Ill agree that geth are by far the easiest faction, but stunlock is not bull****. First time I attempted to solo gold I got 10 waves survived, but died in the extraction zone after I tried to rocket a prime his drone stunned me.
#120
Posté 21 décembre 2012 - 11:42
Lord_Sirian wrote...
Accusing someone of using a strawman when they have done no such thing is a pretty low form of argument. I'm not going to waste my time with you any more.
in regard to this post:Lord_Sirian wrote...
Player 1 says Geth are the most annoying faction and finds them very frustrating to play against. Many players post agreeing with him.
Player 2 (you) comes along and says "NO NO NO, Geth are the LEAST annoying faction, DEY R EASY MODE AND NEED A BUFF".
By implying that you find the Geth soooooooooooooooooooo easy and un-frustrating, you are attempting to portray yourself as better than the people who complain about them. No need to lie through your teeth and claim it's not true. We can see what's going on here.
and finallyAuld Wulf wrote...
Ooh, a list!And is quickly and easily dispatched if you have at least some situational awareness.squidney2k1 wrote...
[*]Geth Prime's Turret absolutely owns: high damage, fast refire time, fires on non-host before physically manifesting, and can spawn through a wall.
The drone is effectively a 'glass cannon,' you just have to know where it is and ... well, aim good!So the geth have one powerful attack. From a high-tech faction which is aided by the reapers. And is nowhere near as obnoxious as a sync-kill (which some factions are riddled with).squidney2k1 wrote...
[*]Geth Prime's Plasma Cannon absolutely owns: Get hit once, and you're hit 3-4 times due to stun-lock. Accurate accross the entire map, always knows where you are and keeps you pinned, fast rate of fire, and magical curving/tracking abilities.This is simply not true if you've specced the geth trooper's flamer into range. I can shoot as far as they do. Hell, I've done hilarious jousting runs at them. It's a blast!squidney2k1 wrote...
[*]Geth Pyro's flamer range >>> player character's flamer range.It's one of the things that defines their faction, similar to Cerberus' use of smoke bombs and cover. But hey, let's take away what makes Cerberus unique, too.squidney2k1 wrote...
[*]Mooks dodge more attacks than a politician.
Homogenise everything!
No. Just no. I'm sorry, but no.That's bad, bad lag and it happens with every faction. I find this way more annoying with the collectors than I do with geth.squidney2k1 wrote...
[*]Melee sync is ridiculous...meaning once a Hunter/Trooper starts their animation, you will take the damage, even if you are 15 away at the time.
To be honest, at the end of this list I'm almost inclined to agree with the 'geth need a buff' types.
(And oop, the formatting of this post broke horribly. Sorry! Fixed now.)
that's it, I'm done. I'm dropping the mic. poly out.Lord_Sirian wrote...
Pretending you didn't say something is pretty stupid considering this forum has a quote function.
Modifié par polymphus, 21 décembre 2012 - 11:42 .
#121
Guest_Lord_Sirian_*
Posté 21 décembre 2012 - 11:43
Guest_Lord_Sirian_*
While what I said was slightly exaggerated (for effect), the thrust of the argument remained EXACTLY the same and was in no way a misrepresentation of his position.
Kindly take your stupidity elsewhere. I'm done arguing with you too.
#122
Posté 21 décembre 2012 - 11:44
#123
Posté 21 décembre 2012 - 11:48
Try a Volus Vanguard without shield-boost and let me know how you do.
Charging is mandatory.
#124
Posté 21 décembre 2012 - 11:50
I hate magnet claws/swords as much as anyone else but the occasional synckill is nothing compared to 20 minutes of stunlock.
#125
Posté 21 décembre 2012 - 11:51
Cerberus makes me ashamed of being Human. They're just SOOOOO PATHETIC





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