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[Navasha]

I would expect to see Leliana and Cassandra. They make sense to be in the next game. Most of the rest, no. It would not make sense for most of the others to show up.

Maybe Flemeth would make a brief appearance as she seems to be the series 'harbinger of heroic heroes'.

I don't like thinking that of all the wide world of Thedas, only a handful of people are involved in EVERY single event. Makes the world seem small and undeveloped.

[Todd23]

The Teryn of Whatever wrote...


She's an agent of the Divine with strong ties to Orlais. Sure some people are going to say "But she died in my playthrough of Dragon Age: Origins and I hate it when BioWare retcons stuff.", but I don't care. She's a rogue. Rogues in DA:O have the ability to feign death (that goes for Zevran, too). If the writers ever feel the need to even bother addressing this issue, I'll accept Feign Death as a perfectly reasonable handwave.

Considdering how difficult it is to learn feign death.  I don't think we should assume every rogue knows it, especially rogues we KNOW don't know it (we controled what Zevran and Leliana learned).

[Navasha]

MisterJB wrote...

Personally, I wish Feinryel would become an antagonist. Just once, I'd like to see an option to trust a mage backfiring.

Um..  The whole dreamer Fenryel thing was kind of a backfire.    I didn't get the impression that the woman he "saved" from bandits was entirely under her own control.   She seemed every bit mind-controlled, probably by the dream mage, as anything a blood mage would do.

[Sylvanpyxie]

Just once, I'd like to see an option to trust a mage backfiring.

I assume you mean backfiring in a huge, cataclysmic manner. Because we've had plenty of "trust the mage" backfires already. Technically we've already had a cataclysmic backfire off Anders so....

Personally, if Feynriel had to return, I'd prefer it to be as a level-headed, well mannered and intelligent young man. You know, the character that he was rapidly becoming in Dragon Age 2 if you chose to help him. 

The whole "never trust mages" thing got worn a bit thin in DA2,for me.

As for characters I think make sense to return? It would make sense to see Sebastian Vael again in a future Dragon Age title. He's tied closely with Starkhaven and, with the rising tensions between the nations of Thedas, it's a pretty safe bet that Starkhaven is going to end up being relatively important at some point.

I don't expect him to be tied to the Inquisition game specifically (though he could be, with a bit of imagination), but I expect to see him again in a future DA title.

Specifically for Inquisition? Cass and Leliana, given the build up (and resurrection) in Dragon Age 2 they're pretty obvious shoe-ins for importance. Leliana being a high agent of the Divine and Cass being a less restricted underling of her's. I imagine Leliana will be a major NPC and Cass will be a companion character.

Modifié par Sylvanpyxie, 21 décembre 2012 - 11:00 .

[SamaraDraven]

I think Sebastian will either be extremely relevant or not at all. Flemeth doesn't make sense. But then... when has she ever? I do love her though. I don't know why.  Cass I'm expecting to see again. I'm not invested in her one way or another, though. But she seems like an obvious appearance, given that she's a Seeker and was rearranging Varric's nose interrogating Varric.

[Sylvanpyxie]

I think Sebastian will either be extremely relevant or not at all.

Well they can't really afford to ignore him. Whether his DLC pack is played or not, Sebastian Vael and his family exist in the lore now. They can't just ignore the fact that the rightful heir to a major city of power is alive and kicking.

The only way they could make him irrelevant is if they kill him off off-screen or completely wipe the Starkhaven history out of the lore, and both those options are quite stupid.

Modifié par Sylvanpyxie, 21 décembre 2012 - 11:36 .

[MisterJB]

Sylvanpyxie wrote...
I assume you mean backfiring in a huge, cataclysmic manner. Because we've had plenty of "trust the mage" backfires already. Technically we've already had a cataclysmic backfire off Anders so....

I mean a situation where trusting a mage leads to him killing many either by accident or intent whereas killing him or sending him to the Circle saves lives.
Anders and Grace and Orsino and Jowan do their thing regardless of Hawke or The Warden's actions and stance. Killing Gascard doesn't save Leandra or Emeric. Feinriel, if sent to tevinter, saves a woman. Gregoir really wasn't possessed. Let Jowan go and he is helping refugees.

Modifié par MisterJB, 21 décembre 2012 - 11:46 .

[The Teyrn of Whatever]

Todd23 wrote...

 (we controled what Zevran and Leliana learned).

This is true. Not everybody chose that option, but the only character whose skills and specialization choices transferred were the Warden from DA:O to DA: Awakening. Despite the fact that Oghren showed up again in Awakening, he wasn't transferred over with the build we gave him in DA:O or any of his specializations. What I'm trying to say is that in story terms, what we chose for the companions to learn is irrelevant. I would be willing to accept these as acceptable handwaves if David Gaider or another writer came out and gave Feign Death as the reason they survived.

In Zevran's case, doesn't he try to feign death after the Warden defeats him in battle when they first meet?

As for Leliana, I like her quite a lot and am willing to give the possible retcon of her survival a pass. They could have had an alternate agent of the Divine in the event of Leliana's death for the Sebastian Vael DLC, but BioWare didn't. In future I'd like characters that die to stay dead, but I am willing to make an exception for two lovable rogues.

[CuriousArtemis]

Would make the most sense for a return:

Leliana, Anders, Cullen, Morrigan, Feynriel, Cassandra, Tallis (must as it wounds me to admit that lol)

Leliana -- the Divine's left hand. Pretty obvious.

Anders -- Mage revolutionary / terrorist, depending on who you ask.

Cullen -- Meredith's right-hand man who defied her. He has some explaining to do to the Divine.

Morrigan -- Her relationship to Flemeth is enough.

Cassandra -- Her connection to Leliana is enough for me.

Tallis -- Appeared in the DLC that took place in Orlais, where we'll be next. Strike against Tallis: She is Qunari, and we know the Qunari will not have a significant role to play in DA3.

[Mummy22kids]

I agree Leliana would make the most sense to come back. I would also see Felmeth as very likely and Sebastien.

[zeMadMonkey]

I reckon those that make the most sense are: Morrigan, Leliana, Flemeth and Cullen. They seem to be tied into the main plot and have been in both games so far (minus awakening). They also have a 100% survival rate with the exception of Morrigan who is hinted at being killed but there is a possibility of surviving.

Others who have a great chance of returning are: Varric, Isabela, Alistair, Anders and Cassandra.
Varric and Isabela have a 100% survival rate which might not mean it makes sense for them to return but the fact they can't die makes me think they have a role in the future. Alistair because of the chance of him being king would lead to a bigger role than others. Anders because of his destruction of the chantry and how he was the catalyst for starting the war. Cassandra because of her role and connection with Leliana, she could be replaced but that is unlikely.

[NoForgiveness]

id say cassandra and leliana make the most sense from what ive seen those 2 are very important. and im excited for both of them returning, hopefully. i also think tallis might return seeing as she is qunari. the qunari invasion is games away but they seem to be building slowly up to it. and yes i would love for tallis to be back. also morrigan at least appearing, we didnt get much of the flemeth/morrigan storyline in da2. cullen might appear too though i hope not, but i cant actually believe a person would move from country to country like that. oh! also sandel and bodhan. bodhan says theyre going to orlais, and actually thats how i first knew da3 would be in orlais

[SamaraDraven]

Sylvanpyxie wrote...

I think Sebastian will either be extremely relevant or not at all.

Well they can't really afford to ignore him. Whether his DLC pack is played or not, Sebastian Vael and his family exist in the lore now. They can't just ignore the fact that the rightful heir to a major city of power is alive and kicking.

The only way they could make him irrelevant is if they kill him off off-screen or completely wipe the Starkhaven history out of the lore, and both those options are quite stupid.

I don't mean that they would ignore Sebastian. He vowed to return to Kirkwall to either aid it, (if you killed Anders) and to raze it to the ground (if you spared Anders). If he shows up in Orlais, the devs would be taking him away from that purpose. But I do see his involvement being probable. It would just need an explanation, but not much of one.

Hey MMG. You have very good points. I too found Tallis a little annoying but not enough to have a preference about her. In my opinion, she could have something to offer the story but her being Qunari does make her involvement too contradictory without a good backstory justifying her presence.

MR_PN wrote...

id say cassandra and leliana make the most
sense from what ive seen those 2 are very important. and im excited for
both of them returning, hopefully. i also think tallis might return
seeing as she is qunari. the qunari invasion is games away but they seem
to be building slowly up to it. and yes i would love for tallis to be
back. also morrigan at least appearing, we didnt get much of the
flemeth/morrigan storyline in da2. cullen might appear too though i hope
not, but i cant actually believe a person would move from country to
country like that. oh! also sandel and bodhan. bodhan says theyre going
to orlais, and actually thats how i first knew da3 would be in
orlais

I think it's fairly plausible that the Divine could demand he return to answer for his actions or because she's looking for templars loyal to the Chantry, depending on her allegiance to the mage/templar conflict. Bodahn and Sandal moving to Orlais was our first clue, though I didn't see it as such at first. Before DA3 was announced, I had hoped the new game would be in Tevinter. Ah wel. But I will like seeing them again. I'm still curious about Sandal's words that sounded like he was describing Flemeth. If they have a connection, what is it and what does it mean to Thedas? Regardless, Sandal has always shown up and always been useful if not always plot-centric.

Modifié par SamaraDraven, 22 décembre 2012 - 01:49 .

[Rorschachinstein]

I very clearly remember decapitating Leliana. I'm not sure how you feign a beheading, but whatever.


Anyone with thick plot armor is coming.

[Minttymint]

MR_PN wrote...
cullen might appear too though i hope not, but i cant actually believe a person would move from country to country like that.

Its not that unbelieveable, sure he has no particular reason to head to Orlais just as my family had no reason to move to France nor come back a mere five years later.  From when he moved to Kirkwall to when he "might" move to Orlais is about... I dunno Eight or so years? I think thats perfectly reasonable exspecially since things seemed to be falling apart for him.

[NoForgiveness]

SamaraDraven wrote...

I think it's fairly plausible that the Divine could demand he return to answer for his actions or because she's looking for templars loyal to the Chantry, depending on her allegiance to the mage/templar conflict. Bodahn and Sandal moving to Orlais was our first clue, though I didn't see it as such at first. Before DA3 was announced, I had hoped the new game would be in Tevinter. Ah wel. But I will like seeing them again. I'm still curious about Sandal's words that sounded like he was describing Flemeth. If they have a connection, what is it and what does it mean to Thedas? Regardless, Sandal has always shown up and always been useful if not always plot-centric.

oh u mean the scary lady thing?

[NoForgiveness]

MinttyMint wrote...

MR_PN wrote...
cullen might appear too though i hope not, but i cant actually believe a person would move from country to country like that.

Its not that unbelieveable, sure he has no particular reason to head to Orlais just as my family had no reason to move to France nor come back a mere five years later.  From when he moved to Kirkwall to when he "might" move to Orlais is about... I dunno Eight or so years? I think thats perfectly reasonable exspecially since things seemed to be falling apart for him.

eh possibly

[CuriousArtemis]

MinttyMint wrote...

MR_PN wrote...
cullen might appear too though i hope not, but i cant actually believe a person would move from country to country like that.

Its not that unbelieveable, sure he has no particular reason to head to Orlais just as my family had no reason to move to France nor come back a mere five years later.  From when he moved to Kirkwall to when he "might" move to Orlais is about... I dunno Eight or so years? I think thats perfectly reasonable exspecially since things seemed to be falling apart for him.

Isn't the Divine in Orlais? I think Cullen could be ordered to come to Val Rouyeaux (spelling?) to explain what happened in Kirkwall.

[NoForgiveness]

motomotogirl wrote...

MinttyMint wrote...

MR_PN wrote...
cullen might appear too though i hope not, but i cant actually believe a person would move from country to country like that.

Its not that unbelieveable, sure he has no particular reason to head to Orlais just as my family had no reason to move to France nor come back a mere five years later.  From when he moved to Kirkwall to when he "might" move to Orlais is about... I dunno Eight or so years? I think thats perfectly reasonable exspecially since things seemed to be falling apart for him.

Isn't the Divine in Orlais? I think Cullen could be ordered to come to Val Rouyeaux (spelling?) to explain what happened in Kirkwall.

sounds like a better explanation then they had for him in kirkwall

[Pheonix57]

Leliana, Alistair, Morrigan... Sandal.

[Minttymint]

motomotogirl wrote...

MinttyMint wrote...

MR_PN wrote...
cullen might appear too though i hope not, but i cant actually believe a person would move from country to country like that.

Its not that unbelieveable, sure he has no particular reason to head to Orlais just as my family had no reason to move to France nor come back a mere five years later.  From when he moved to Kirkwall to when he "might" move to Orlais is about... I dunno Eight or so years? I think thats perfectly reasonable exspecially since things seemed to be falling apart for him.

Isn't the Divine in Orlais? I think Cullen could be ordered to come to Val Rouyeaux (spelling?) to explain what happened in Kirkwall.

Indeed she is. Among all other reasons it does make the most sense or rather than trudge all the way to Orlais he could write a nice formal letter  I do wonder how he would explain it all though "A wizzard did it".

[The Teyrn of Whatever]

motomotogirl wrote...

Would make the most sense for a return:

Leliana, Anders, Cullen, Morrigan, Feynriel, Cassandra, Tallis (must as it wounds me to admit that lol)

Leliana -- the Divine's left hand. Pretty obvious.

Anders -- Mage revolutionary / terrorist, depending on who you ask.

Cullen -- Meredith's right-hand man who defied her. He has some explaining to do to the Divine.

Morrigan -- Her relationship to Flemeth is enough.

Cassandra -- Her connection to Leliana is enough for me.

Tallis -- Appeared in the DLC that took place in Orlais, where we'll be next. Strike against Tallis: She is Qunari, and we know the Qunari will not have a significant role to play in DA3.

That's a pretty good list right there. In Anders case it depends on how we decided to react to his actions at the end of the DA2. His return is not guaranteed and David Gaider has said that from here on in, dead is dead.

[The Teyrn of Whatever]

krul2k wrote...

if cullens in it i sure as hell hope you finaly get the option to stab him in the eye

As fun as that might be, I don't see it as too likely...

Modifié par The Teryn of Whatever, 22 décembre 2012 - 03:23 .

[NoForgiveness]

krul2k wrote...

if cullens in it i sure as hell hope you finaly get the option to stab him in the eye

me too