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[Danny Boy 7]

So I
love this question because it really makes me think not about whom I WANT to
see but who I expect to see. But more than that it’s not about personal
expectations in the sense of I expect to see person X or I’m not buying the
game, but I expect to see person Y because their relevant to the plot in my
opinion outside of my personal feelings of them. So let’s begin.

 

Major
NPCs

Leliana –
As you’ve all said already I expect Leliana to somehow be involved in the plot,
in fact I might say that if she weren’t I’d be confused, not upset, but
curious. She is a bard and if the setting is in fact Orlais she could be a good
introduction to new players on the Bard profession as well as a font of
information on the “Game” (we need to get the codex entries after all). Given
her connection to the Divine as well as her mysterious reappearance (if you
killed her) I can see her being a quest giver or at the very least someone you
see alongside the Divine or gathering information you as the Inquisitor can
use. As to her relevance to the plot I’d say she’ll likely not be a follower
again, probably as I’ve mentioned an NPC quest giver or simply someone who
represents the Chantry faction ala Grand Cleric Elithina (sp) in DA2 (or like
she did in the original game).

 

Cassandra
– Cass seems obvious to me. For example they showed her in that PAX armor preview
(she was revealed nameless yet similar pics of her have been applied to the BW
elevators with her name). She was hinted at by Mark Darrah to possibly have a
major role in the game prior to it being officially announced and she has had
her own movie which to me points to another “I’d be confused if she didn’t show
up.” Then again they didn’t promise that she’d be in the game or that the armor
preview detailed current followers so really like all of my choices it’s up in
the air. Beyond that she is a Seeker (or was) and has at least some ties to the
current Divine and is toted as the “Hero of Orlais” so her presence in a game
where both the Chantry and Orlais seem to be relevant wouldn’t come as a
surprise. The extent however is something else entirely. She could be a major
NPC, a follower that follows the general archetype that both Alistair (as a
Grey Warden; the PC’s profession) and the twins did (both being refugees like
Hawke) by being the same profession as the PC is (if she is in fact a member of
the Inquisition) or she could be a slightly more important NPC that plays a
role similar to Arl Eamon.

 

Fiona –
I’m actually surprised nobody brought her up, she is a character that might be
the current leader of the Rebel Mage faction (though who knows we could get
someone new or random) she was a major factor (not THE factor, a factor) for
the Circle splitting from the Chantry, as well as a former Grey Warden, meaning
if she is a boss that players are able to fight it makes sense beyond “I’m the
leader” for her to be powerful and potentially may close up the whole “Alistair’s
mother theory” though that alone wouldn’t put her in the game in my mind.
Unlike the other two I’m unsure whether she will make it into the game, if the
others were 10/10 meaning I’m absolutely positive than she’d be a 7 or 8.  She’s not a “returning character” so much but
she is one that I believe is relevant to the plot and has been in previous
works by BW.

 

Minor
NPCs

Flemeth –
I’d be fooling myself if I said I thought Flemeth wouldn’t be involved in the
game however her “relevance” in something I’d debate until the sun goes down.
The common thought is that she might be the big bad in the end; in fact there
are so many theories as to her origins and current plans that I’m surprised
there isn’t a thread wondering if she is the Pumpkin Queen. Whether for good or
ill she sparks a lot of discussion and my mind would be blown if she doesn’t
appear in all of the future games. Her relevance however as I said is debate
worthy. She could be a boss, a quest giver, maybe once again simply be a cameo that
gives cryptic warnings of impending DOOM or saves the PC. Who knows? I simply
put her in this category because in the past that’s all she has been a minor
yet extremely interesting NPC.

 

Cullen –
The simple answer would be for me to say, “His voice actor confirmed it so he’s
gonna be there.” But whether he’s a follower as the leak implied is up in the
air. I obviously like Cullen by my banner but I’ll try to be as unbiased as
possible. He’s been in two games, he’s showed some growth in both of them for
ill or good is up to each person, he causes a reaction which David Gaider said
is good whether it’s love or hate (though that means little if he just doesn’t
fit the story in the writers’ minds), he’s a templar which means he’s obviously
relevant to the main plot of the M/T war and as some have said he may be up for
a court marshal for the events of his mutiny (dunno if that’s the right word)
and may be in Orlais (the Chantry HQ) at the same time as the new PC. He
certainly could be a follower; he has a relatively untouched background, has
shown that he can question both Templars and Mages and once again he’s a
templar and could be the representative of that faction in the player’s party.

However
with all that in mind I still have my doubts. Cullen HAS been in both games…as
a minor NPC; yes he played big parts in the areas where he was relevant but
beyond that we didn’t hear much from him. Now I brought up that he could be a
representative, am I going back on that? No, but I’m wondering if his part
could be redundant should Cassandra be a member of the team, being that as a
Seeker she’ll have a lot of knowledge of the Chantry/Templar/Seeker
organizations and is MUCH more likely to be involved with the game than Cullen
is. So as a follower it’s 50/50 depending on Cassandra’s…position in the game,
as well as what she’ll be talking about, we only have so much dialogue per
character after all. A case can also be made to involve him as just another NPC
again, quest giver, random doob that ties us to the other games or whatever,
hell he could not show up at all and be fighting on the frontlines, again WHO
KNOWS.

Now all
of that is assuming Cullen will be a “good guy” he could very well have
rebelled with the other templars or gone on that insane killing spree mentioned
for some at the end of Origins we just don’t know for certain either way, but
keeping in mind all of what I’ve laid out I wouldn’t be surprised to see Cullen
show up in some capacity but unlike the others I’ve mentioned wouldn’t be
confused if he’s not in the game at all.

 

Bodhan/Sandal
– This one is more of a “they’re gonna show up because like Flemeth they’ve
sort of become iconic to the franchise.” Though I’m afraid Bodhan might not
make it beyond this game (though that is purely my own opinion based on one of
his comments in DA2). There isn’t much more to be said, because they’re not
relevant to the plot and besides fan service or to continue adding upon the
theories of what Sandal is they just don’t add to the plot.

 

The
Divine – So I’m sure some are surprised the Divine is in this section and I can
understand your confusion. The Divine is the leader of the Chantry, she’s the
personal employer of both Leliana and Cassandra and it’s unquestionable she has
relevance to the M/T war and Orlais. So why is she here? Because of that DAMN
survey! So while the credibility of that survey is obviously in question it did
remind me of one thing, that no matter how important a character is, no matter
how beloved by the fans or detailed they are compared to other NPCs in the game
THEY CAN DIE. And what better way to explain how the player/Inquisition is
neutral than to have the founder die in the first couple of minutes and force
our protagonist to take up the reins thus allowing for you and I to shape the
Inquisition into whatever we want? Now I could be wrong, hell I’m probably
wrong, the Divine could be in the entire game and every five seconds we hear
from her or about her or she could be baking cookies for the poor as a Bann
Teagun or Leandra character I honestly don’t know. But one thing is for sure…she
could be a Cailan or a Duncan or Nihilus or whatever red shirt that made it’s
way into this universe and that is why I LOVE and HATE that survey.

 

Cameos
(May or May Not)

These
are purely ideas, not who I’d like to return/or would not enjoy seeing again
but purely who I think may fit the bill and won’t have much more to do with the
game outside of a quest or to bring back nostalgia.

 

Anders/Justice
– Only reason he is not on the above list is because the devs have said he won’t
be resurrected again for those of us who killed him/got him killed again. If
you kept him alive like me, he’ll likely be a quest giver or play a role like
Alistair did in DA2, having a different one off cameo based on how he was dealt
with in DA2. He could be leading his own band of apostates, on a murder spree,
controlling his inner demons, pun unintended or Justice could be in full
control of his corpse.

 

Aveline –
She is a long shot in my opinion, her only attributes being that she is
Orlesian by blood and had her wedding here. She got a bit of lore behind her
father’s house in the Mark of the Assassin DLC so that may play an insignificant
or even major part in the next game.

 

Alistair/Anora
– The title of this part really should be Monarch of Ferelden, but given the
turmoil going on between Orlais and Ferelden as well as the Orlesian Civil War
that I believe will play a secondary role in Inquisition I think one of these
two will get their cameo, Anora needs one for those who didn’t get to see one
in DA2 and really of the two I expect she would have more to do with Orlais
though I’ll save my final opinion for when the final comic of Until We Sleep
comes out.

 

Loghain/Stroud
– If you didn’t kill Loghain he’ll probably show up here, if not then I expect
some other Warden will take his place maybe Stroud. The latter could have more
to do with the game, the former could be a quest giver. Either way I’m sure we’ll
see one of these guys (or both) if there is a warden plotline.

 

Morrigan
– I want to be honest. I LOVE Morrigan…but she just won’t be a major part in
this game. They’ve already said she won’t so she could come back, but I don’t
think it will be a follower or even a major NPC. She could be one of the big
bads, she could show up in Orlais’ court, she could be a cameo, or she could be
dead depending on your choices idk. Her relevance is suspect and I just don’t
feel comfortable saying she’ll be a major character or even in the game for
that matter no matter how much I want her to.

 

So I
hope you enjoyed my rant and I’m sorry for the wall of text but this question
is one I LOVE and it got me thinking.

[Kileyan]

I don't want to derail the thread, but I admit I wasn't a big DA2 fan. I didn't even know who Cullen was until I read his wiki entry. Which seems to entail he is just a Templar who over the game becomes a rabid mage hater.

Why all the love for this character, is it just a chick thing, his game model is good looking, or something deeper?

edited: nevermind, read a bit more, he seems to think for himself, which is why I missed that, never expected that of a Templar. I'm a bad person, I never finished DA2, act 3 was so bad, I missed what little good was in it, Cullen seems an interesting character:) Now I am going to have to finish that damn game.

Modifié par Kileyan, 22 décembre 2012 - 04:07 .

[CuriousArtemis]

I have several articles of clothing in my closet that I love more than Cullen. I love my boots more than Cullen. I love Jane Austen's Northanger Abbey more than Cullen. Hell, I love Fenris more than Cullen lol

But after playing DA2, Cullen was immediately my favorite NPC (before I even knew what that term was). Now it was months before I found him in DA:O since I didn't play mage origins, and since I played a boy, he never flirted with my Warden, so I found him uninteresting in DA:O. But that's not where I met him first anyway.

This isn't a thread about favorites, but if it were, I'd list my favorite NPCs as Cullen, Alain, Lia, and Maraas. I would love if all four had significant roles in DA3. I would be tickled just as pick if they at least had cameos!

[sangy]

Bohdan and Sandal. Those are the only two I expect to see. Other than that, who knows. I love cameos of past characters like they did in DA2. I'd love it if we could actually team up with past characters. As far as Hawke or the Warden...I'd love to see either, but I feel like there's less of a chance of seeing them.

Modifié par sangy, 22 décembre 2012 - 04:50 .

[Kileyan]

motomotogirl wrote...

This isn't a thread about favorites, but if it were, I'd list my favorite NPCs as Cullen, Alain, Lia, and Maraas. I would love if all four had significant roles in DA3. I would be tickled just as pick if they at least had cameos!

Now you are just messing with me, I learned who Cullen was, who the hell are Alain, Lia and Maraas!?

[Imp of the Perverse]

I'm expecting to see most of Asunder's cast (possible spoilers) - Rhys, Evangeline, Shale, Leliana, Cole, the Divine, Adrian, and Lord Seeker Lambert. Rhys, Evangeline, Leliana and Shale possibly as companions.

From DA2, Hawke seems pretty likely. Anders would probably be a cameo, since he can die in DA2, unless his possession by Justice is used as an excuse to bring him back. Feynriel and Varric seem likely. Most of the other companions seem like they'd make sense too, since they all have strong feelings on the whole mage issue (with the exception of Isabella.) Fenris might not have any interest in getting involved though, seems like he and Isabella could be saved for a future game that focuses more on the qunari.

From DAO and Awakening, I'd imagine they'd bring the warden back if Hawke's returning, since they'd have to overcome the same technical challenges with Hawke (face and personality imports.) My guess is he'd be with other wardens, so probably Allistair and Nathaniel, maybe cameos from a couple of the Awakening wardens. They're supposedly dealing with some sort of darkspawn related business in DA2, could be Corypheus or the Architect. Morrigan and Flemeth would make sense. And definitely one or two of the remaining forbidden ones.

[CuriousArtemis]

Kileyan wrote...

motomotogirl wrote...

This isn't a thread about favorites, but if it were, I'd list my favorite NPCs as Cullen, Alain, Lia, and Maraas. I would love if all four had significant roles in DA3. I would be tickled just as pick if they at least had cameos!

Now you are just messing with me, I learned who Cullen was, who the hell are Alain, Lia and Maraas!?

LOL Okay, listen closely 

Alain -- The young mage who runs back to Ser Thrask when you go after Grace in "Act of Mercy" in Act 1.

Lia -- The young elf whom you save from the murderer who is in fact the magistrate's son.

Maraas -- The Tal'Vashoth you meet on the Wounded Coast who has defected from the Tal'Vashoth and warns you of the presence; you meet him again in either Act 2 or 3. He's in the Hanged Man.

[berelinde]

 I wasn't going to participate in this discussion, but what the heck. I've got an opinion just like everybody else. Might as well get it out there. This list includes characters that I like and those that I don't, but I have been careful to keep my bias out of it. No matter what politics are involved, players went to great lengths to set up their game universes they way they wanted, and I'd like to see those decisions respected. That said, the characters themselves have their own agendas and their own backstories, and these factors influence their appearance and participation in future installments.

Politically Relevant Characters

Leliana. If I had my way, we'd never hear about her again, but regardless of my personal preferences, she is highly involved in the universe as it stands. She is the left hand of the Divine, a spy for the Chantry, and (justified or not) believes herself to be on a mission from the Maker. If she is alive, she would not willingly sit this one out. Her participation would probably depend more upon the protagonist's allegiances than upon decisions made in past games. For protagonists who support the Chantry, she would be a powerful ally. I would expect that a Chantry-supporting protagonist might be able to enlist her aid at key points or at the very least be able to hit her up for quests. For protagonists who oppose (or who decline to support) the Chantry, she would be a powerful enemy. This, too, might be a gold mine of quests, since she is a bard with many connections and she might prove difficult to track or difficult to evade. Ultimately, a Chantry-opposing (or Chantry-rejecting) protagonist would probably have to kill her. Let's hope she stays dead this time.

Sebastian. Unlike Leliana, Sebastian's participation would depend upon Hawke's decisions. In my opinion, where Hawke befriended Sebastian, his primary loyalty would be to the Chantry. He might be limited by his available resources (passions of the moment aside, the hunger to retake Starkhaven and assume rulership were never nurtured in friendship mode, so once he calmed down, he might remember Elthina's advice that murder is the tool of ambition, not justice), but I could see him personally defending the Chantry. In this case, his participation would only really be relevant if the game took us to the Free Marches. There, he might be a lesser quest-giver or adversary, depending on the protagonist's politics, but outside the Free Marches, the likelihood of his appearance drops. Travel is expensive, and without his family's wealth, Sebastian is not a rich man. Where Hawke rivaled Sebastian, everything changes (again, in my opinion). Sebastian's loyalties probably would not change. He would probably still want to defend the Chantry, but the ambition Hawke nurtured would make it possible to reclaim his title. With that, he would be in a far better position to help or hinder the protagonist of DA3. Plus, he has probably rejected Elthina's warning, so he would be predisposed to involve himself, for good or ill. In this situation, rivaled Sebastian would be a lot more interesting, because his ambition would give him a better chance at reclaiming his family's wealth, and a better likelihood of appearing in places that aren't the Free Marches. Again, if circumstances require us to kill him, I'm really hoping that he stays dead.

Teagan. This depends more upon the proximity of the game's events to the Fereldan border. If we're in Jader or some other locale close to Ferelden, I would expect Teagan to take notice. Whether he would court the protagonist as an ally or confront him as an enemy would depend on the protagonist's secular politics. Either way, I would anticipate fun from this quarter. Teagan is a shrewd, intelligent man.

Loghain. The odds of him appearing are limited by the Warden's decisions, but if Loghain were alive, there is no way he would be able to consider war with Orlais and not get involved. If he lives, he's a Warden, so he might have some new loyalties, but Loghain is not a man to forget his past. I only wish I had a save where he lived.

Cassandra. See Leliana... except that I could see her taking a more pragmatic stance. Unlike Leliana, Cassandra seems open to challenges to her preconceived ideas and opinions. She is willing to entertain the possibility that she is wrong. Under the right circumstances, I could see even a Chantry-opposing protagonist being able to win her over. This isn't to say that she's weak. On the contrary, I believe her to possess iron resolution and purpose. It's just that she does not allow herself to be blinded by her beliefs and is ammenable to logic. Cassandra has the potential to be an invaluable ally or a horrific adversary, depending on the protagonist's choices.

Cullen. He's going to be in Orlais. Come on, you know it. He was the second-in-command to the worst debacle the Chantry has ever seen; there is no way his superiors in Val Royeaux will not want to question him. Personally, I see him in fallen-from-grace mode. I see him as a potential prisoner awaiting trial. Regardless, in the present crisis, I'm not sure I know where his loyalties lie. Cullen is a templar to the core, but much like Carrot in Terry Pratchett's Discworld series, he seems to be using an old, superceded copy of the rulebook. He still believes in the order (with the little O) that the templars seek to uphold, and he still believes that the role of the templar is to protect - mages as well as those who aren't. He will have to answer for the abuses committed under his watch and I'm curious to see how this is addressed, but ultimately, I'm more curious to see where he'll toss his hat. Will he leave the Templar Order and support the Chantry or will he throw in his lot with Lambert and follow the Order into exile? No idea, but it will be fun to watch.

Peripheral Characters with Potential Involvement

These guys were not heavily involved in previous games (or have drastically reduced odds of survival), but I could see their presence influencing current events.

Dagna. She has got to be the most open-minded, inquisitive, adorable dwarf ever. Personal feelings aside, she has a unique perspective on the workings of the Circle and she possesses an invaluable "outsider's perspective" on mages. I could also see her taking a companion's seat. She likes to be there to see it happen. She might make an awkward adventurer at first, but I could see her pwning it once she got the hang of things.

Feynriel. Problematic because of his odds of surviving Night Terrors with an intact psyche. His involvement will depend on Tevinter's. He's almost unique in his abilites and he's definitely conflicted with his allegiances. He wants to learn control, but he is coming of age in a culture known more for its lack of it. That said, he may very well possess the moral fortitude to keep his head down, learn his lessons, and go on to greatness. It would be beyond awesome if Hawke's mercy helped reform the Tevinter Empire. I'm not optimistic. But what happens if his Tranquility is reversed? What kind of a loose cannon would he be then? The mind boggles. I don't consider this possibility likely. If Pharamond's experiment were repeated, there are probably lots of Tranquil more eligible for the procedure. Just about anyone, I'd imagine. That isn't to say that I don't like Feynriel. I do. He's a troubled kid going through shiit that no kid should have to deal with and his responses are entirely appropriate to an adolescent boy going through things he doesn't understand. It's just that I don't think that the caretakers of a Tranquil Feynriel understand the uniqueness of their charge.

Bodahn/Sandal. This one always makes me twitch. As the one-time caregiver of a child with autism, it pains me physically to see Sandal's "reality disconnect" treated like a joke. I literally cried the first time I heard "Enchantment!" and came pretty close to swearing off BioWare forever, but I persevered. People don't understand what it's like, I told myself. They don't know how hurtful that stereotype is. They throw around "retard" as if they were talking about goofy pets, not people. It wasn't until DA2, where the player had the option of responding to Sandal's unique focus in a more sensitive manner that I forgave BioWare for including Sandal at all. Bodahn made it happen for me. He confronts the reality that Sandal will always need someone to look out for him, but he never once implies that he himself is ever put out by this. He worries that nobody will be there to remind Sandal to eat or bathe or any of the other things that people need to do to keep living. I give BioWare credit for that. Those are concerns I've had myself. Bodahn doesn't discredit Sandal's ability in the slightest when he says "He doesn't understand danger like he should," he just worries that something somewhere might supass the boy's considerable talents. In a world populated by dragons, that isn't exactly paranoia. So yeah, I want Sandal to keep appearing because I want people to realize that differently wired individuals are valuable and have something to contribue, but I want Bodahn to be there, too. On an impersonal level, they're going to Orlais and they have the tendency to latch onto the rising star. That's justification enough.

From Peripheral Soruces

Galyan. In Dawn of the Seeker, he was decidedly pro-Circle, but that was before the events of Asunder. I'm interested in and curious about how his view has been shaped by current events, but more importantly, he's already there. The wiki states that he is not Orlesian, but he is based out of the White Spire. He is a proactive mage who is already in Orlais. He has the ability and competence to rise in his field, so I'm fairly confident that if they choose not to ignore the anime film entirely, Galyan will be in the thick of things. Whether he's an ally, an adversary will depend on the protagonist's choices. Whether he's there at all will depend on BioWare, as will his availability as a potential companion. I wouldn't complain. On a personal level, I'd like to see a spirit healer with a more platonic relationship with the spirits he channels. Wynne was always possessed and Anders wound up that way, but we've never met a spirit healer who began free and stayed that way.

Avexis. She was a child in Dawn of the Seeker, but that was set several years before Varric's interrogation. She could theoretically have come of age by the start of DA3. She is interesting because she has been inexorably touched by blood magic. Specifically *dragon* blood magic, and it is the Dragon Age. I'm curious to see how her ability to telepathically communicate with dragons will influence the events of DA3.

Cole. He's an enigma, but I can't shake the feeling that he's important. Read Asunder if you want to know why.

Edmonde. He's the First Enchanter of Orlais and has been pretty much ignored. In other words, he has the potential to be a loose cannon, and I'm curious to see how it will play out.

Fiona. See other posts. She's interesting and available.

Sorry, ran out of steam.

[Lost Mercenary]

Hawke and/or his companions.

For a game set during the Mage/Templar War it would make sense for someone directly involved in it's beginning to show up. Plus it would be interesting to see if your actions in DA2 affect how Hawke acts in the game when you encounter him. Charming, Sarcastic or Aggresive.

[SamaraDraven]

berelinde wrote...

 I wasn't going to participate in this discussion, but what the heck. I've got an opinion just like everybody else. Might as well get it out there. This list includes characters that I like and those that I don't, but I have been careful to keep my bias out of it. No matter what politics are involved, players went to great lengths to set up their game universes they way they wanted, and I'd like to see those decisions respected. That said, the characters themselves have their own agendas and their own backstories, and these factors influence their appearance and participation in future installments.

Politically Relevant Characters

Teagan.

Loghain.

Cassandra.

Cullen.

Peripheral Characters with Potential Involvement

These guys were not heavily involved in previous games (or have drastically reduced odds of survival), but I could see their presence influencing current events.

Dagna has a unique perspective on the workings of the Circle and she possesses an invaluable "outsider's perspective" on mages.

Bodahn/Sandal.

From Peripheral Soruces

Galyan. In Dawn of the Seeker.

Cole. He's an enigma, but I can't shake the feeling that he's important. Read Asunder if you want to know why.

Edmonde. He's
the First Enchanter of Orlais.

Fiona. See other posts. She's interesting and available.

Avexis. She was a child in Dawn of the Seeker, but that was set several years before Varric's interrogation.

Sorry, ran out of steam.

I'm glad you shared your opinion. I left just the names you posted in my reply to minimize the wall of text and because your reply is just above mine.

You've mentioned a few characters that I didn't think of. Teagan, for instance, wasn't even on my radar but he is a possible player.

I share your thoughts on Leliana and Cassandra. They aren't characters I like but i see them having a lot to do with the story.

Feynriel, while a personal fave out of all the more minor characters and a curiosity to me, is a problematic option. It would depend on what Bioware says. They might not go near him.

I didn't even consider Loghain but you're right! If there was a conflict of any kind with Orlais, he'd put himself in it. My regard for Loghain is complicated, at best, so I'll save my opinion but I do know that someone who fought so hard for freedom would never let his former oppressors have a chance to try again. I do strongly doubt he'll be in DA3, however because his appearance is problematic to the players who had him executed.

Dagna, Dagna, Dagna.... Oh how adorable she is! Well I like her anyway. Can't believe I forgot her. And given that Cassandra tells Varric the Circles have been falling, it's very possible that Dagna was pulled right into the conflict - if you helped her get into the Circle that is. Thinking about her now, I think she is either going to be a rogue element on the mages' side or a very direct participant. I'd love to see where her story has gone. If she went to the Circle and survived the rebellion, she could now be a very personally invested player in the story.

Regarding Bodahn and Sandal: I don't have your perspective on them but I chatted up every option to talk to both of them during DA2 and it was illuminating. That's when Sandal tells you about a "scary lady with a mean laugh" who visits him at night that made me think Flemeth has something to do with him. What, I have no clue. In talking to Bodahn, I'd hoped to glean more but he shares his worries over Sandal. As a parent, that broke my heart a little. I wanted Hawke to be able to say "He'll always have a home here" or something like that. It'd kill me if Bodahn died - just sayin'. I think Sandal is smarter than he seems in a way we don't understand yet.

I don't have much of an opinion about Galyan in either direction. He seemed like a nice guy. He strikes me as the more level-headed, voice of reason for the mages - if they'll actually listen to him.

Avexis I didn't think of either, but her powers do make her a tempting target for anyone who'd like to use her as a weapon. Under her own governance, she could be a powerful game changer too. We don't know what her allegiances are but I think that's half the fun in seeing her again.

The others like Fiona and Cole and Edmonde I have no thoughts on but they can potentially show up.

Nice post! Thank you.

Modifié par SamaraDraven, 22 décembre 2012 - 06:42 .

[AppealToReason]

Sandal, Bodahn, Herren, Wade - because they're peculiar and humourous on the peripheral of a game.

Cassandra - because she's Lelianna's bff

Lelianna - because she's a babe

Besides them I would like to see Velanna, Nathaniel and Sebastian again in some capacity. I figure Velanna could be in the Dales because she's an elf and thats an elf place. Nathaniel because of the Wardens because Wardens. Sebastian because of his connection to the chantry. I could see him going there for reasons linked to Anders being an ****.

[The_11thDoctor]

Whoever DG says is coming back...

[Rawgrim]

I guess Leliana, morrigan and Flemeth. those makes the most sense.

I am hoping for Sigrun, though.

[SamaraDraven]

For my part, I don't see how Morrigan would make sense to have return unless the writers decided to use the OGB thing. Since it's a problematic story, because not every chose that possibility, the writers are going to leave it alone. Outside of that, I don't know how Morrigan could be worked into the new title.

Flemeth's presence has never made sense to me, except that she has saved the protagonist in each game. I always like seeing her, though and look forward to gleaning another small bit of info about her in DA3.

Sigrun would be nice to see again. I wouldn't mind. I don't see how it's relevant to have her but she was cool. So it's more of a hope. I'd prefer to see her over Leliana by a mile but I know Leli stands an almost certain likelihood of returning.

Modifié par SamaraDraven, 23 décembre 2012 - 07:16 .

[Danny Boy 7]

SamaraDraven wrote...

For my part, I don't see how Morrigan would make sense to have return unless the writers decided to use the OGB thing. Since it's a problematic story, because not every chose that possibility, the writers are going to leave it alone. Outside of that, I don't know how Morrigan could be worked into the new title.

Flemeth's presence has never made sense to me, except that she has saved the protagonist in each game. I always like seeing her, though and look forward to gleaning another small bit of info about her in DA3.

Sigrun would be nice to see again. I wouldn't mind. I don't see how it's relevant to have her but she was cool. So it's more of a hope. I'd prefer to see her over Leliana by a mile but I know Leli stands an almost certain likelihood of returning.

Well you could make an argument that she could be a member of a mysterious organization that was hinted at in those leaks especially if Flemeth is indeed the Big Bad of DAIII: I. As I mentioned in my post which ofcourse is just my opinion/random collection of facts and speculation Morrigan could be a cameo in the Empress' court or she could be a major facet that may or may not be replaced with one of her sisters if she was killed.

Flemeth is sort of like the R2-D2 of Star Wars to me. She is just sort of there regardless of whether or not she adds to the plot tieing the scattered threads of each game together the same way Bodhan and Sandal does. They may not both be in all materials, DLC and such, but they add a common element among our protagonists marking them as heroes.

I think if we'd have any chance of seeing Sigrun it would have to be in either a Warden stronghold or in the Deep Roads leading to Kal-Sharok or some other thaig. I agree it would be awesome to see her though. Velanna might show up in the Dales though (doubt it because she doesn't have a clan anymore) or in the Deep Roads looking for her sister.

[AstraDrakkar]

Hmm, I think Cassandra and Leliana will make an appearance in some form. I also believe one of the places we will visit will be Starkhaven, and I'm betting Sebastian will make an appearance there. I also am pretty sure we'll see Flemeth and my 2 favorite travelling dwarves. Of course Cullen will probably in it too.

Modifié par AstraDrakkar, 23 décembre 2012 - 10:56 .

[SamaraDraven]

As I said before, Danny; when has Flemeth ever made sense? Both in game and when she speaks, she's confusing. lol! But I can't help looking forward to when she shows up. I'm kind of not looking forward to her being a Big Bad. It seems the obvious choice and Flemeth is all about not being what anyone expects. When I was playing a sarcastic, power hungry Hawke, thought the stuff she said would get her a scowl and a threat from Flemeth. But instead the old hag laughed at me and said "Oh you, I like." O_O My instinct keeps telling me that Flemeth isn't a bad guy. She may an agent for herself alone that only helps when it serves her interests, like stopping the Blight was, but I don't see her as an evil force that needs to be stopped. I don't know why I think this - I just do and can't shake it.

If the writers want to put Morrigan in the game, I'm sure they'll think of something clever to explain it.

I pretty much hold no expectation to see Sigrun again. But I wouldn't complain if she showed up.

Would Velanna be able to survive the Deep Roads this long? *shudder*

Modifié par SamaraDraven, 23 décembre 2012 - 11:03 .

[Danny Boy 7]

SamaraDraven wrote...

As I said before, Danny; when has Flemeth ever made sense? Both in game and when she speaks, she's confusing. lol! But I can't help looking forward to when she shows up. I'm kind of not looking forward to her being a Big Bad. It seems the obvious choice and Flemeth is all about not being what anyone expects. When I was playing a sarcastic, power hungry Hawke, thought the stuff she said would get her a scowl and a threat from Flemeth. But instead the old hag laughed at me and said "Oh you, I like." O_O My instinct keeps telling me that Flemeth isn't a bad guy. She may an agent for herself alone that only helps when it serves her interests, like stopping the Blight was, but I don't see her as an evil force that needs to be stopped. I don't know why I think this - I just do and can't shake it.

If the writers want to put Morrigan in the game, I'm sure they'll think of something clever to explain it.

I pretty much hold no expectation to see Sigrun again. But I wouldn't complain if she showed up.

Would Velanna be able to survive the Deep Roads this long? *shudder*

I'm there with you on hoping she isn't the Big Bad I was just mentioning what I hear a lot. Personally if the extent of her participation is a quest or two or even just saving are character and then leaving/"dying" the next time we see her than I'm fine with it. I'm okay with a little mystery in my games/movies/books. I don't know where the Millenium Falcon is from but I'm okay with that and that translates to Flemeth, but I won't begrudge someone who wants to know. Just don't get to upset if your expectations aren't met.

Morrigan will cameo for sure in one of the future games I'm sure but again likely not a game based around her or the OGB again. She might pop up somewhere and we'll be like "Hey! I know her, my Warden romanced/was friends with her." or not depending on your final choice with her but idk.

It's a long shot to see any DLC characters even in a Bioware game simply because some people might not have bought that content and they don't want to overload those people with what would be a lot of inside jokes. I mean imagine going into a game and hearing about nothing but Katriel...who is Katriel you might ask? Exactly... But it is BW so if it calls for it and if they have the will/rescources to revisit Sigrun I'm sure they will.

I think if anyone has a chance to survive that long in the Deep Roads it's Velanna. I mean look at Anders/Justice and Nathaniel in DA2. Our Warden's didn't pick random nobodies these are characters who were awesome to begin with but now could probably handle just about anything thrown at them. Except a new protagonist knifing them...*cough*

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Morrigan and Flemeth. the others make sense too. But these two the most.

[Althix]

I have little hope to see Loghain in Orlais, but there is some problems with it. no Blight and his age.

[SamaraDraven]

secretsandlies wrote...

I have little hope to see Loghain in Orlais, but there is some problems with it. no Blight and his age.

Yeah... It's problematic to have him return. Though I just know he'd have quite a bit to say about a war with Orlais. I found him to be a wonderfully grey character. He's a bad guy. I'm not going to sweep that aside. For betraying his king and the Wardens, he is a pretty crappy person. It's just... I couldn't help sympathizing with him after reading Stolen Throne. It doesn't excuse his actions, but I can see how he was driven to do what he did. It's just harder to hate him outright like I did during my DAO playthroughs. Gotta love Bioware for making characters that seem so obviously evil and then making you think from their perspective, thus revealing - in glaring HD - how morally ambiguous everyone in Thedas is.

Modifié par SamaraDraven, 24 décembre 2012 - 08:08 .

[SpunkyMonkey]

gangly369 wrote...

Flemeth, Leliana, Morrigan are a given considering how much they've already influenced the story. We know for a fact Cullen will be back (just not sure in what capacity) given that his VA is already in the studio. Sandal and Bodahn will also most likely return.

This^

Regardless of their fates in previous games, it would be very unsatisfying if none of the above were to return and offer a continuation of their story & role in Thedas' fate. Each one has an easily believeable way of being resurcected.

[Althix]

I never hated Loghain even through my first playthrough, because to be honest my fingers were itching to slay Cailan soon after that character was introduced to me, as for Duncan well his days were numbered anyway. And Loghain is surviving Landsmeet every single time. We are forced to choose between him and babyface. But Loghain superior to babyface in every aspect, as team member his stats are better, and as character he is waaaaay better.

If Leliana was raised from the dead, who's else do we have.

Babyface and Anora should stay in Ferelden.

Morrigan is gone through mirror.

Flemeth... well i don't think such a wise creature as Flemeth would do anything in coming war, why she would even bother? It's wise for her to wait and see it how would war end.

Who else? DA2 characters... well i still want Isabela's head but there is no reason for her be in middle of the fight between church and mages.
Rest of DA2 companions... well they are empty just like Hawke is. It is said that Champion was in the middle of Kirkwall's mess, that's true but it wasn't his actions that made war a reality. So Hawke or his companions in DA:I? Hell no.

DA:O/A - same story, they made their contribution to overall victory against the Blight, but just as Warden's story - their story ended with the Blight.

So we have Cullen, we have Leliana and perhaps Anders if you spared his sorry ass. I can name few more characters that i wanna see because i like them, but it doesn't justify or explains why they should be in DA:I. I like Loghain as i said - but there is no need for him in coming game.

Modifié par secretsandlies, 24 décembre 2012 - 09:23 .

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Zevran makes a lot of sense to me considering his skill set and willingness to play both sides for profit.

Wasn't there an extension with Felicia Day? Anything with her makes sense because she's Felicia Day.

[TEWR]

MisterJB wrote...

Personally, I wish Feinryel would become an antagonist. Just once, I'd like to see an option to trust a mage backfiring.

God no. DAII did that to death. Considering Feynriel states in DAII that he looks at how Tevinter acts and says "sometimes I understand the Templars" it'd be idiotic for Bioware to have him go "LOL I'm evil now!!!" all to sate some idea that "Trusting Mages is dangerous business!!".

Tevinter breeds more malicious people then benevolent ones, yes that's true. But to say no person in Tevinter can be benevolent by virtue of the fact they're living in Tevinter would be erroneous, given that historically one Mage ascended to the Archon's seat and outlawed slavery.

To which he was promptly assassinated, but the point remains that you can remain a good person in Tevinter. More so if say, for instance, you don't have to deal with other Magisters ridiculing you to the point where your self-esteem and moral center is destroyed utterly (Hadriana).

frankf43 wrote...

hhh89 wrote...


Why it should happen with one of the few mages NPC in DA2 that didn't turn in demons  or were evil?

You do realise that in a lot of players games he ended up tranquil?

Can be reversed.