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[JAZZ_LEG3ND]

Stardusk wrote...

JAZZ_LEG3ND wrote...

Stardusk wrote...

Whilst I have sympathy for your experience. Women are statistically more likely to be child abusers than men are. And domestic violence is committed by both in equal measure.Women also murder children more frequently than men do, statistically speaking.

You put entirely too much faith in your statistics.
Perhaps you should put a little in humanity -- you may discover that we're not that bad.

LOL.

Something I said?

[Esrever]

People are working really hard to keep this thread going. If only we put that effort into more useful things.

[Zero132132]

Stardusk wrote...

JAZZ_LEG3ND wrote...

Stardusk wrote...

Whilst I have sympathy for your experience. Women are statistically more likely to be child abusers than men are. And domestic violence is committed by both in equal measure.Women also murder children more frequently than men do, statistically speaking.

You put entirely too much faith in your statistics.
Perhaps you should put a little in humanity -- you may discover that we're not that bad.

LOL.

The variance in terms of pretty much every goddamned bit of quantifiable information we can collect on individual people is high enough that you can't possibly rely on any group of people to have any specific attributes. If you don't understand how statistics work, then don't use them.

[Stardusk]

Zero132132 wrote...

Stardusk wrote...

I did not miss the point. There is a lot of misandry in her post, i.e. men are murderers and rapists and are responsible for all the ills of the world but hey, I don't judge all men like that. Pretty much what she said.

No, ******, what she said was that if you collected a bunch of statistics implying that, it shouldn't mean a damned thing in terms of how you should interact with people, because even if some group is statistically more likely to have certain attributes, assuming that those attributes apply to every single member is really, really, really ****ing stupid.

You missed the point completely, and said "well actually, women ARE worse than men." How stupid do you have to be to misread something so completely? Seriously...

This assertition is incorrect for the reason that statistics will predict generalised behaviour of the group being studied and to claim that statistical data is not relevant to interpersonal interaction is also incorrect. Many men, aware that divorce men in the majority, will not marry for this very reason AND they are wise to do so because if they do marry, their children are property of the state and the wife and she can extract vast sums of money from him, potentially ruining his life in the process. So statistical data ARE relevant because they can aid people in making important decisions.

Modifié par Stardusk, 22 décembre 2012 - 04:27 .

[OldeGrim]

All females that have posted here add me for some wild experiences

ME3 experiences of course

[ValorOfArms777]

....as a man I can say that this will be offensive to my fellow females of my "race" wheres my, you know what no I don't want a sammich I just want a blanket I'm cold....love me

Modifié par ValorOfArms777, 22 décembre 2012 - 04:25 .

[spudspot]

This thread just made me realize that I should never ever again say something like "we've hit rock bottom" on the BSN.

[Stardusk]

Zero132132 wrote...

Stardusk wrote...

JAZZ_LEG3ND wrote...

Stardusk wrote...

Whilst I have sympathy for your experience. Women are statistically more likely to be child abusers than men are. And domestic violence is committed by both in equal measure.Women also murder children more frequently than men do, statistically speaking.

You put entirely too much faith in your statistics.
Perhaps you should put a little in humanity -- you may discover that we're not that bad.

LOL.

The variance in terms of pretty much every goddamned bit of quantifiable information we can collect on individual people is high enough that you can't possibly rely on any group of people to have any specific attributes. If you don't understand how statistics work, then don't use them.

OK. Test that experiment by getting married. Get back to me if and when you are in the divorce court.

http://www.divorce-l...n-or-women.html

Two-Thirds of the Time
It’s the wife who files for divorce in about two-thirds of divorce cases, at least among couples who have children. According to the National Center for Health Statistics, the proportion has changed slightly over the years; for example, in 1975, approximately 72 percent of the divorces in the U.S. were filed by women, whereas by 1988, only about 65 percent were filed by women.The

Same throughout the 19th Century
A study reported in the American Law and Economics Review in 2000, "These Boots Are Made for Walking: Why Most Divorce Filers are Women" also showed that more recently, women file more than two-thirds of divorce cases in the US. Even though the individual states’ data vary somewhat and the numbers have fluctuated over time, throughout most of the 19th century about 60 percent of divorce filings were by women.Moreover, in some of the states where no-fault divorce was introduced, over 70 percent of the divorce filings were by women. Among college-educated couples, the percentage of divorces initiated by wives is a whopping 90 percent.

Modifié par Stardusk, 22 décembre 2012 - 04:26 .

[Blarg]

Lord_Sirian wrote...

I am not really a Krogan with a top hat and a monocle.

But I am just as classy and polite in person as my avatar would suggest.

That is absurdly disappointing.  Are you sure you can't tell us about that Shep/Liara threesome?

[rubynorman]

I used to respect you, Stardusk, for being a good player and making those tutorial videos, then I read what you said about women, and those praise threads. Now you're just some guy on the BSN. This probably doesn't mean anything to you, but I'd like to let you know that.

[megawug]

Okay, this thread needs to be closed like now. BW admins, please step in ASAP!!!!

Modifié par megawug, 22 décembre 2012 - 04:28 .

[Norina]

It's so sad to see people don't believe in girl gamers :[

[avenging_teabag]

... what.

Dafuq has become of this thread? No really? It's scary to imagine what this board might turn into by the end of the winter break.

[Stardusk]

rubynorman wrote...

I used to respect you, Stardusk, for being a good player and making those tutorial videos, then I read what you said about women, and those praise threads. Now you're just some guy on the BSN. This probably doesn't mean anything to you, but I'd like to let you know that.

What have I said about women? I provided statistical data about certain things they do. 

If providing factual information leads you to lose respect for me, you might want to check out your basis for respect in people. Once again, I have made no negative comments about women, merely provided information.

[JAZZ_LEG3ND]

Stardusk wrote...

This assertition is in correct for the reason that statistics will predict generalised behaviour of the group being studied and to claim that statistical data is not relevant to interpersonal interaction is also incorrect. Many men, aware that divorce men in the majority, will not marry for this very reason AND they are wise to do so because if they do marry, their children are property of the state and the wife and she can extract vast sums of money from him, potentially ruining his life in the process. So statistical data ARE relevant because they can aid people in making important decisions.

Statistically, you're an idiot.

[Airealite]

Stardusk wrote...

rubynorman wrote...

I used to respect you, Stardusk, for being a good player and making those tutorial videos, then I read what you said about women, and those praise threads. Now you're just some guy on the BSN. This probably doesn't mean anything to you, but I'd like to let you know that.

What have I said about women? I provided statistical data about certain things they do. 

If providing factual information leads you to lose respect for me, you might want to check out your basis for respect in people. Once again, I have made no negative comments about women, merely provided information.

I used to lack respect for you, Stardusk, for being a groupie and telling me you loved me, then I read what you said about statistics, and those calm responses. Now you're just some cool guy on the BSN. This probably doesn't mean anything to you, but I'd like to let you know that.

[Caratinoid]

blaaaaaaaaaarg wrote...

Lord_Sirian wrote...

I am not really a Krogan with a top hat and a monocle.

But I am just as classy and polite in person as my avatar would suggest.

That is absurdly disappointing.  Are you sure you can't tell us about that Shep/Liara threesome?

Hm ... took me awhile to get the joke, then I added rule34 to google search

[Airealite]

JAZZ_LEG3ND wrote...

Stardusk wrote...

This assertition is in correct for the reason that statistics will predict generalised behaviour of the group being studied and to claim that statistical data is not relevant to interpersonal interaction is also incorrect. Many men, aware that divorce men in the majority, will not marry for this very reason AND they are wise to do so because if they do marry, their children are property of the state and the wife and she can extract vast sums of money from him, potentially ruining his life in the process. So statistical data ARE relevant because they can aid people in making important decisions.

Statistically, you're an idiot.

You sound upset.

[Stardusk]

JAZZ_LEG3ND wrote...

Stardusk wrote...

This assertition is in correct for the reason that statistics will predict generalised behaviour of the group being studied and to claim that statistical data is not relevant to interpersonal interaction is also incorrect. Many men, aware that divorce men in the majority, will not marry for this very reason AND they are wise to do so because if they do marry, their children are property of the state and the wife and she can extract vast sums of money from him, potentially ruining his life in the process. So statistical data ARE relevant because they can aid people in making important decisions.

Statistically, you're an idiot.

You are quite witty. That is called an ad hominen since it lacks argumentative content.

And that ladies and gentlemen is far worse than anything I have posted in this thread. 

Check every post, did I resort to name calling? No.

Well done, well done indeed.

Modifié par Stardusk, 22 décembre 2012 - 04:35 .

[Dyssar]

Screw it, it's not even noon yet but I'm going to a Beerstore and stocking up this thread is making me consider alcoholism as a new lifestyle choice.

[Stardusk]

Airealite wrote...

Stardusk wrote...

rubynorman wrote...

I used to respect you, Stardusk, for being a good player and making those tutorial videos, then I read what you said about women, and those praise threads. Now you're just some guy on the BSN. This probably doesn't mean anything to you, but I'd like to let you know that.

What have I said about women? I provided statistical data about certain things they do. 

If providing factual information leads you to lose respect for me, you might want to check out your basis for respect in people. Once again, I have made no negative comments about women, merely provided information.

I used to lack respect for you, Stardusk, for being a groupie and telling me you loved me, then I read what you said about statistics, and those calm responses. Now you're just some cool guy on the BSN. This probably doesn't mean anything to you, but I'd like to let you know that.

 I feel my love for you growing.

[Zero132132]

Stardusk wrote...

Zero132132 wrote...

Stardusk wrote...

I did not miss the point. There is a lot of misandry in her post, i.e. men are murderers and rapists and are responsible for all the ills of the world but hey, I don't judge all men like that. Pretty much what she said.

No, ******, what she said was that if you collected a bunch of statistics implying that, it shouldn't mean a damned thing in terms of how you should interact with people, because even if some group is statistically more likely to have certain attributes, assuming that those attributes apply to every single member is really, really, really ****ing stupid.

You missed the point completely, and said "well actually, women ARE worse than men." How stupid do you have to be to misread something so completely? Seriously...

This assertition is in correct for the reason that statistics will predict generalised behaviour of the group being studied and to claim that statistical data is not relevant to interpersonal interaction is also incorrect. Many men, aware that divorce men in the majority, will not marry for this very reason AND they are wise to do so because if they do marry, their children are property of the state and the wife and she can extract vast sums of money from him, potentially ruining his life in the process. So statistical data ARE relevant because they can aid people in making important decisions.

1. Still wasn't the point, so you were responding to one she didn't make, and you very obviously have your head too far up your ass to even notice that you made a mistake.

2. In any optimization problem, ignoring the specifics of the problem in favor of some more general model is lazy. It might be easier sometimes, but the results will only be optimal for the given problem if the general model and the specific problem coincide, and one should never rely on coincidence. For any large group of people, the variance is high enough that individual attributes mean much, much more than general statistics. No group is homogenous enough to ignore individual, specific information (or experiences) in favor of what's generally known about a demographic. Making decisions based off of statistics is very rarely going to actually be good for the specific situation you're in.

Statistics can be helpful for some problems, but they're not fit for making decisions about individual people. I don't know what ever gave you that idea.

Have you noticed yet that every stat and fact you're quoting happens to be about women, and how they're bad? Why not use other examples, maybe demographic information about school teachers, how most of them had a lower average SAT score than their students, stuff like that? Seriously, the term 'misogynist' fits completely.

Modifié par Zero132132, 22 décembre 2012 - 04:36 .

[Airealite]

Stardusk wrote...

 I feel my love for you growing.

It would never work, Stardusk! We're just too different!