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[Computron2000]

I keep running into people who cannot understand this basic thing and start missiling, dying, medigelling, *repeat*. One used up enough time doing so that i chose to suicide with 2 more to go and 20 seconds left on wave 10 (worse was that he only joined in wave 9 then died while i had done 1-9 without problems alone).

Yes some will blame the infilitrators who never do objectives (too bad the most recent one 1 saw in reactor was a moron fury trying to top the board not an infilitrator) while others will state how easily they did it without infilitrators (great for these peeps who also  probably conveniently forget the times they failed while stuck in revive circles).

/rant off

Also please note that standing directly behind the guy disarming with 2 praetorians/atlases/ravagers/scions/banshees in front is also very very dumb

[me0120]

No! Let the destroyers do the device objectives. 

Computron2000 wrote...

Also please note that standing directly behind the guy disarming with 2 praetorians/atlases/ravagers/scions/banshees in front is also very very dumb

This part is true. I love when I carry the pizza people stand behind me (with the enemies in front of me) and think they are helping. 

[Creator Limbs]

You're asking for too much.

[Cyonan]

I just assume that they aren't until they show me they are.

Which means if you get into a game with me and I follow you to the objective then let you grab it, this is what has occurred.

[soulstriker09]

wow been months since I've seen a thread pointing this out 8D

and sadly the people you're addressing are most likely... not here.

[BjornDaDwarf]

Ummm, no thanks. If I have a seriously tanky character, I'll trust my health and DR over cloak to keep me alive. If I have a speedy character, I can probably be there and half-way done by the time the Infiltrator makes it.

The most important thing about that objective is simply having situational awareness, knowing whether or not it's a good idea to start capping it. That will get the job done faster and easier than most PuG infiltrators.

[me0120]

Plus it feels to me like Dragoons and Banshees hunt out Infiltrators first. Maybe my character has too much Cologne on?

[mybudgee]

A related request; can we pls have a unicorn??

[Kogia]

Mostly I'd agree, TC is a much better damage reduction than any strength or shields and in theory Infis are the best for objective caps.

However, when I'm my very squishy Drell Adept with full speed boosts I can often be on that objective and capping it before any of the Infis on the squad have even started making their way to it. Same with Vanguards, they can charge across a map and be in the right lace long before, so if there are no close enemies that might take me out, I go for it.

Having said that, I do often race over to a cap and find one of the teams Infis heading to it to, I always let them and then ideally run off to the another part of the map to try and get enemies to follow me, or lurk somewhere nearby to act as bodyguard if things are already around.

Finally a big but, as others have said, the people who need to learn this won't be reading this.

Modifié par Kogia, 22 décembre 2012 - 08:50 .

[Beta582]

If I am playing with an infiltrator who is showing that they will readily and willingly get the objective caps then I will usually let them take it. However if I am standing right on top of it and few to no enemies are around, I will just get it quick.

Situational awareness plays a huge part in the objective caps.

[darkpassenger2342]

everytime i specced for duration we never got this objective..
Unless its the shadow, no more.

[BlackDahlia424]

Fact: 99.9999% of Infiltrators spec TC for damage. Therefore you'd be absolutely no better at getting objectives than anyone else.

[Awesome Tree]

Fun fact: Unless you communicate, players can't read your intentions through your character.

[darkpassenger2342]

Awesome Tree wrote...

Fun fact: Unless you communicate, players can't read your intentions through your character.

 you mean meleeing people with my pistol doesnt tell them everything i want to say? damn.

[HolyAvenger]

Honestly, I don't care. Let the nearest person cap the objective. Its faster, and usually not an issue if other people are killing enemies and drawing aggro.

[Reorte]

BlackDahlia424 wrote...

Fact: 99.9999% of Infiltrators spec TC for damage. Therefore you'd be absolutely no better at getting objectives than anyone else.

It still lasts about half way through the cap so if you're lucky that's enough to keep the enemy from closing in on you for the rest of it. Obviously won't work if they are fairly nearby when you start.

[MstrJedi Kyle]

BlackDahlia424 wrote...

Fact: 99.9999% of Infiltrators spec TC for damage. Therefore you'd be absolutely no better at getting objectives than anyone else.

Woot! I'm part of the .0001%!

[Computron2000]

BlackDahlia424 wrote...

Fact: 99.9999% of Infiltrators spec TC for damage. Therefore you'd be absolutely no better at getting objectives than anyone else.

Not true. Damage specced cloak does this in a rather easy manner though it is not as risk free as duration cloak. I used damage cloak for a while after the cloak nerf.

First run towards the objective, cloak when you pass the spawn (if it is between you and the objective), decloak after you've passed and when you reach the objective, cloak should be ready or nearly ready. Cloak then disarm. The cloak will shed your aggro and force retargetting and last though half the disarm.

The tricky part is the 5 seconds between cloak expiry and disarm completion. If a respawn appears nearby, then it becomes dicey and depends on several conditions such as your current shields, your health, whether it is in berserk mode, LOS, cover from shots, etc.

Compared to a someone who is exposed the entire 10 seconds and who does not lose aggro unless he knows how to finesse it, he drags enemies along with him and can only depend on shields, fortification and health the whole time.

Awesome Tree wrote...
Fun fact: Unless you communicate, players can't read your intentions through your character.

Actually you can. If someone is running straight at the objective, its is highly likely that he is going for it. If someone is running away from the objective and not in a circular route for 10 seconds, killfeed shows him killing stuff, its is highly unlikely he is going to do the objective

[CoffeeHolic93]

HolyAvenger wrote...

Honestly, I don't care. Let the nearest person cap the objective. Its faster, and usually not an issue if other people are killing enemies and drawing aggro.

[Nissun]

Nope, sorry. If I'm nearby, I'll do it. If I'm a Destroyer and the objective is in an open area, I'll do it. Sometimes I'll even join the hack, if the objective is in a very vulnerable area and the chances of kiting away enemies are really low. That way, if you're staggered or killed, I will be able to complete the objective.

Short answer: No. Whoever gets there hacks. The second one guards. The others distract and kite away.

Modifié par Nissun, 22 décembre 2012 - 12:24 .

[Black Phantom]

DarthKilby wrote...

BlackDahlia424 wrote...

Fact: 99.9999% of Infiltrators spec TC for damage. Therefore you'd be absolutely no better at getting objectives than anyone else.

Woot! I'm part of the .0001%!

[IllusiveManJr]

Ashen Earth wrote...

DarthKilby wrote...

BlackDahlia424 wrote...

Fact: 99.9999% of Infiltrators spec TC for damage. Therefore you'd be absolutely no better at getting objectives than anyone else.

Woot! I'm part of the .0001%!

[sirjimmus86]

Yeah I try to do it with my infiltrators whenever possible, but sometimes there are enemies in between me and the objective - thinking Collectors especially seem to have a knack for crowding into tight spaces, so its easier for me to aggro them and draw them away. This lets someone else hack without too many problems, then I can take over once the layout of the map is more favourable.

[spudspot]

Uhm, isn't it rather: "Let the guy closest to the objective do it, unless he's not alone in which case you should kill whatever is about to kill him, if need be with a rocket."?

Often, two or more of them will be far enough away from the enemies anyway, so waiting for the infiltrator to do it actually slows you down or makes it more difficult. But that might just be my experience.

Modifié par spudspot, 22 décembre 2012 - 12:49 .

[DJ Airsurfer]

I've started to spec out of Duration on my infiltrators, so lol.