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Clips7 wrote...

So what classes can use a wraith or claymore effectively? Sorry..i don't use shotguns, because of their poor range and i'm not up and close with enemies like that for fear of getting waxed. I'm going to assume tho that krogans are the best class for these weapons?....maybe the kroguard?


every now and then i'll look over my collection of shotguns and i really want to try some of them out, but don't really know what class or character to try them on...Image IPB

 

Every class can use them. That's the point Stardusk is making, that the Claymore makes any class/build viable.

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stysiaq wrote...

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Claymore is overpowered clearly.


wouldn't be if not for reload cancelling.


It isn't overpowered.

Bioware has confirmed, at least a few times, that the Claymore is the exemplar of balance, and an artifact of divine origin, wrought into existence by the primordial devs and seated at the right hand of the Fagnan.

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megabeast37215 wrote...

darkpassenger2342 wrote...

im starting to notice this thread might have 20+ page potential....


All we have need is someone to come in here and say "The Claymore sucks compared to the Reegar" and provide a decent supporting argument. Image IPB


The Claymore sucks compared to the Reegar. 

Can the Claymore melt Banshees/Praetorians/Atlases in one shot? Nope.

The Reegar can one clip any of these things on Platinum.

The Reegar has the best DPS against shields/barriers and even armour, even with its 0.5 penalty against armour.

There you go, flame awaaaaaaaay.

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Raider > Claymore

25 pages, easy :bandit:

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OblivionDawn wrote...

stysiaq wrote...

Lord_Sirian wrote...

Claymore is overpowered clearly.


wouldn't be if not for reload cancelling.


It isn't overpowered.

Bioware has confirmed, at least a few times, that the Claymore is the exemplar of balance, and an artifact of divine origin, wrought into existence by the primordial devs and seated at the right hand of the Fagnan.



 

I was being facetious. I don't actually think the Claymore is OP.

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Also I cant reload cancel on PS3


I can just fine on Xbox360. Here's how: use your power or roll when the clip is full. Works like charm.

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As much as I do not like the Claymore (you all know my "difficulty to handle the weapon should be directly proportional to damage output, I find most guns very boring), it is balanced. One shot, extreme damage, the Widow among the shotguns. I do not think it needs to be balanced, yet I can understand if people call it very strong, if not overpowered.

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Jay_Hoxtatron wrote...

megabeast37215 wrote...

darkpassenger2342 wrote...

im starting to notice this thread might have 20+ page potential....


All we have need is someone to come in here and say "The Claymore sucks compared to the Reegar" and provide a decent supporting argument. Image IPB


The Claymore sucks compared to the Reegar. 

Can the Claymore melt Banshees/Praetorians/Atlases in one shot? Nope.

The Reegar can one clip any of these things on Platinum.

The Reegar has the best DPS against shields/barriers and even armour, even with its 0.5 penalty against armour.

There you go, flame awaaaaaaaay.


I don't think you could be any more awesome if you tried...

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Clips7 wrote...

So what classes can use a wraith or claymore effectively? Sorry..i don't use shotguns, because of their poor range and i'm not up and close with enemies like that for fear of getting waxed. I'm going to assume tho that krogans are the best class for these weapons?....maybe the kroguard?


with a smart choke and hipfire, the wraith is anything but short range.

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megabeast37215 wrote...

darkpassenger2342 wrote...

im starting to notice this thread might have 20+ page potential....


All we have need is someone to come in here and say "The Claymore sucks compared to the Reegar" and provide a decent supporting argument. Image IPB


I'll give it a shot.

I'm very happy for all of you, and imma let you finish, but the Reegar is the best weapon of all time. OF ALL TIME!
It's not op, because it has not so awesome range. It's a well balanced gun. With claymore you have to aim for the head to get headshots, with Reegar you don't aim and get headshots anyway. I always top scoreboards with the Reegar. I think it should be uncommon though, because it was a pain getting it to level 10. It wouldn't be much op for a silver gun, because it's high risk high reward and requires lots of skill. I use it on a GI or the Destroyer.

Good enough?

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stysiaq wrote...

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No, the Harrier is.


I don't like the Harrier. it looks generic, and it runs out of ammo quite often. And Wraith is the pimpiest gun there is. Golden shotgun, who wouldn't want that?


edit: also, the name. Wraith. Just say it. Wraith.

Whereas the Harrier is named "Błotniak Cerberusa" in my language.


I don't like Claymore. Doesn't have the right "feel" to it. I quite like the AT-Raider thou, 2 shots is awesome, one shot is just lacking. And weight is a big problem on Claymore.

Modifié par Arppis, 22 décembre 2012 - 10:01 .


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Console peasants don't know the true beauty of the claymore. I don't even wanna know what happens when i get it up to X on my PC manifest.

Console players CAN reload cancel. I do it quite often, in fact.

It seems Wrex hasn't gotten around to eating you, yet...


If you had bothered to look at my xbox manifest, you would've have noticed that i've spent a LOT more time on console than PC. Wish it was the other way around but oh well.

Really shouldn't expect people on BSN to do/say logical things.

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The Mass Effect 3 Claymore is grossly underpowered, as a matter of fact.
The proof is visible for everyone to see:


Non-Krogans can shoot the Claymore without breaking limbs. This is a fine example of a nerf that hurts the real Claymore users out there.

Modifié par me0120, 22 décembre 2012 - 10:04 .


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VerySeed wrote...
If you had bothered to look at my xbox manifest, you would've have noticed that i've spent a LOT more time on console than PC. Wish it was the other way around but oh well.

Really shouldn't expect people on BSN to do/say logical things.


So... are you not coming back to Xbox? I could use a little room on my friends list, no offense intended.

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stysiaq wrote...

I'm very happy for all of you, and imma let you finish, but the Reegar is the best weapon of all time. OF ALL TIME!
It's not op, because it has not so awesome range. It's a well balanced gun. With claymore you have to aim for the head to get headshots, with Reegar you don't aim and get headshots anyway. I always top scoreboards with the Reegar. I think it should be uncommon though, because it was a pain getting it to level 10. It wouldn't be much op for a silver gun, because it's high risk high reward and requires lots of skill. I use it on a GI or the Destroyer.

Good enough?


Not bad... combine yours with Jay's and we've got something brewin' here....

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I do love the Claymore but to be honest, the Reeger just has a much higher DPS than the claymore (even with the reload-cancel). I use the Reegar on Platinum all the time and OWN everything with it.

Reegar (X): 8,800.00
Claymore (X): 1,648.00
*Numbers are max damage per clip
**Numbers also taken from Cyonan's weapon stats list: http://social.biowar.../index/13255314

Sorry but the numbers don't lie.


Now BSN members.... FIGHT FOR MY AMUSEMENT!!!
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Modifié par Beta582, 22 décembre 2012 - 10:20 .


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As mentioned earlier the claymore isn't that popular on 360. The other day i watched a Destroyer laying waste with one so I copied his loadout and joined a gold reaper lobby.
And wow Brutes and Ravagers just seemed to evaporate.

Very impressed

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Beta582 wrote...

I do love the Claymore but to be honest, the Reeger just has a much higher DPS than the claymore (even with the reload-cancel). I use the Reegar on Platinum all the time and OWN everything with it.

Reegar (X): 8,800.00
Claymore (X): 1,648.00
*Numbers are max damage per clip
**Numbers also taken from Cyonan's weapon stats list: http://social.biowar.../index/13255314

Sorry but the numbers don't lie.


Now BSN members.... FIGHT FOR MY AMUSEMENT!!!


Well of course the Reegar is better than the Claymore, it's ridculously overpowered.

The reason the Claymore is so loved is because it's balanced and it's beautiful.

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The Claymore is not the answer. It is the question.

And the answer is yes.

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iOnlySignIn wrote...

The Claymore is not the answer. It is the question.

And the answer is yes.


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OblivionDawn wrote...

Well of course the Reegar is better than the Claymore, it's ridculously overpowered.

The reason the Claymore is so loved is because it's balanced and it's beautiful.


Claymore with medi-gel RC is OP... use consolers have to use powers or the 'everything' button to RC, which is not as easy b/c both of those options can cause other things to happen (everything button forces you to take cover/dodge).

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Of course, Claymore is not the answer: Claymore is the question.

The answer is yes, kill them.


Edit: I obviously got :ph34r:d

Modifié par PreGy, 22 décembre 2012 - 10:35 .


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darkpassenger2342 wrote...

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Y'know the theory, the equation?

e = MC squared?

the C stands for claymore...


Easy= more claymorex2?


But no-one can dual-wield claymores?

That would be easy mode though...

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megabeast37215 wrote...

VerySeed wrote...
If you had bothered to look at my xbox manifest, you would've have noticed that i've spent a LOT more time on console than PC. Wish it was the other way around but oh well.

Really shouldn't expect people on BSN to do/say logical things.


So... are you not coming back to Xbox? I could use a little room on my friends list, no offense intended.


Yea I'm eventually gonna send a message to everyone on there telling people that I'm moving to PC. Go ahead.

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You're right...the Wraith is the solution to every problem


This