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[Mahrac]

megabeast37215 wrote...

Mahrac wrote...
Even so, the PC Master Race will stand forever.

Actually... you probably won't.

Remember back in the day when the best games were Arcade games? Yeah... how many video Arcades do you see now?

Consoles already have music services, Internet explorer, etc. Everything PC offers is slowly being offered by consoles... you actually ARE being phased out.

Face reality and suffer PC swine...

The next step will be when consoles are phased out by cellphones...

PCs shall stand forever. Consols have the... unfortunate... side effect of taking up a TV to do their work. A PC has no such limitation. Don't fool yourself; you may get our scraps, but you will never surpass us.

[megabeast37215]

GroverA125 wrote...

@kataigida: you clearly have no idea what you're talking about.

Bioware is sustained by console players, as is CoD, and virtually all non-MMO multi-platforms. If it weren't for those, everyones budgets would be cut to around 1/4 of current for all aforementioned developers/franchises, meaning worse games and even less games. And you'd take up all the CoD immigrants, suffer from more forced payment content, more younger players, the list goes on.

PC games and platforms are sustained by the consoles, without them, not only would the computer gaming industry have never lifted off, it would collapse and you'd be buggered any way. Consoles can survive without PC support, not the other way around.

Also, consoles offer cheap options to run a game, in a manner in which specs are not involved. Therefore, real-time competitive gaming is immediately set for consoles, where the excuse that "that guy has a better platform" cannot be used, and it becomes a level playing field for all, further increasing income from non-hardcore players, who would not provide any input were the system as you seem to think is the "perfect" one.

So much win.... can I buy you a drink good sir?

[megabeast37215]

Crimson Vanguard wrote...

That it. More talk will be meaningless. Time for war

Bring it on CV!!!

I got a Brogan pimpslap with a Brophoon headed your way!!!

[Mahrac]

TheCandlejack wrote...

Mahrac wrote...

megabeast37215 wrote...

Kataigida wrote...
Well...given that BW has said that they have made more money from the multiplayer than they would any SP DLC...

If it's down to a contest of who is likely to spend ore money on a game for no good reason, who do you think it would be? Console players, or those PC players that have already sunk hundreds if not thousands into their custom gaming PCs to squeeze every last FpS from their processors and every last beautiful pixel?

You'll have to ask BW... but just based on the sheer number of console gamers, I'm going to go with consolers again. 100,00 potential buyers > 10,000

Hell I just had a buddy pay real $$$ for 6 Reserve packs so he could get the last 6-7 Retaliation characters...

Which brings back my point. The inferior will always outnumber the superior. Even so, the PC Master Race will stand forever.

Consoles will always be there too because of big name titles like Mario, Zelda, Super Smash Brothers, Final Fantasy, Mass Effect, Call of Duty, Resident Evil, Devil May Cry, Halo, Assassins Creed, Grand Theft Auto, God of War, Uncharted, Gran Turismo, Need for Speed etc. Consoles have a big appeal to people because it doesn't require tons of money to constantly upgrade your system to support more advanced games that are available for consoles as well which rounds out to a smaller price (examples: Assassins Creed, Call of Duty, Grand Theft Auto, Crysis etc.)

So many in that list that are available to Us too. And I'll have you know I'm running AC3 on the same PC that ran AC1 and AoE2. That's more than ten years of games.

[TheCandlejack]

PC gamers owe their spot to Nintendo. If Nintendo didn't come out with Super Mario Bros after that travesty of ET on the Atari 2600, gaming probably wouldn't be happening today. Eg. PC is Nintendos b!tch

[codename2o2]

"The rantings of an upjumped zealot make for tedious listening."

[megabeast37215]

Mahrac wrote...

PCs shall stand forever. Consols have the... unfortunate... side effect of taking up a TV to do their work. A PC has no such limitation. Don't fool yourself; you may get our scraps, but you will never surpass us.

Maybe you'd be right if PC didn't use a freakin' keyboard instead of a controller...

A qwerty keyboard is the most hideous piece of gaming equipment in the entire industry... ok... the Kinect is worse... but that's it.

[Mahrac]

TheCandlejack wrote...

PC gamers owe their spot to Nintendo. If Nintendo didn't come out with Super Mario Bros after that travesty of ET on the Atari 2600, gaming probably wouldn't be happening today. Eg. PC is Nintendos b!tch

better to be Nintendo's b!tch than a peasent. Nintendo has Fire Emblem.

@megabeast spoken like a true peasant.

Modifié par Mahrac, 22 décembre 2012 - 06:15 .

[Stinja]

BurningLiquor wrote...

Stinja wrote...

Show me a PC master racer who dosent hack their ini files?
Even caineghis2500, worshipped master racer, admitted to glitching

Throw them down brothers!

Make developers limit their FOV to intolerable narrow fields!
Have such gutless consoles, that maps are tiny due to memory limits!
Limit data sets and textures to one DVD to fit the feeble Xbox!
Throw them down brothers until they cry and beg for the next console generation (which will not match current PC specs). MAKE THEM BEG FOR OUR MERCY!

Caineghis is not one of the Master Race.

[megabeast37215]

Mahrac wrote...
So many in that list that are available to Us too. And I'll have you know I'm running AC3 on the same PC that ran AC1 and AoE2. That's more than ten years of games.

The same case maybe... either that or you're running AC3 on graphics settings that are so low the game looks like Minecraft.

I have 2 10 year old PCs in my closet... there is no way they could run todays games without replacing damn near everything.

[TheCandlejack]

Mahrac wrote...

TheCandlejack wrote...

Mahrac wrote...

megabeast37215 wrote...

Kataigida wrote...
Well...given that BW has said that they have made more money from the multiplayer than they would any SP DLC...

If it's down to a contest of who is likely to spend ore money on a game for no good reason, who do you think it would be? Console players, or those PC players that have already sunk hundreds if not thousands into their custom gaming PCs to squeeze every last FpS from their processors and every last beautiful pixel?

You'll have to ask BW... but just based on the sheer number of console gamers, I'm going to go with consolers again. 100,00 potential buyers > 10,000

Hell I just had a buddy pay real $$$ for 6 Reserve packs so he could get the last 6-7 Retaliation characters...

Which brings back my point. The inferior will always outnumber the superior. Even so, the PC Master Race will stand forever.

Consoles will always be there too because of big name titles like Mario, Zelda, Super Smash Brothers, Final Fantasy, Mass Effect, Call of Duty, Resident Evil, Devil May Cry, Halo, Assassins Creed, Grand Theft Auto, God of War, Uncharted, Gran Turismo, Need for Speed etc. Consoles have a big appeal to people because it doesn't require tons of money to constantly upgrade your system to support more advanced games that are available for consoles as well which rounds out to a smaller price (examples: Assassins Creed, Call of Duty, Grand Theft Auto, Crysis etc.)

So many in that list that are available to Us too. And I'll have you know I'm running AC3 on the same PC that ran AC1 and AoE2. That's more than ten years of games.

No kidding, but what I'm saying is that the games that are available to PC, are also available to consoles at a much cheaper price due to not having to worry about having the proper system specifications to run it at an acceptable speed. Instead of shelling out $230 for an Intel Core 2 Duo or $320 for an i7 plus another $290 for the motherboard, you can get a 360 for $250 that comes bundled with some extra goodies, and get the same games for $60 or so.

[AkuIaTubShark]

Stinja wrote...

BurningLiquor wrote...

Stinja wrote...

Show me a PC master racer who dosent hack their ini files?
Even caineghis2500, worshipped master racer, admitted to glitching

Throw them down brothers!

Make developers limit their FOV to intolerable narrow fields!
Have such gutless consoles, that maps are tiny due to memory limits!
Limit data sets and textures to one DVD to fit the feeble Xbox!
Throw them down brothers until they cry and beg for the next console generation (which will not match current PC specs). MAKE THEM BEG FOR OUR MERCY!

Caineghis is not one of the Master Race.

Adam Savage disproves all other theories, thus, you have won the arguement.... Until the next idoit starts it up.

[TheCandlejack]

Mahrac wrote...

TheCandlejack wrote...

PC gamers owe their spot to Nintendo. If Nintendo didn't come out with Super Mario Bros after that travesty of ET on the Atari 2600, gaming probably wouldn't be happening today. Eg. PC is Nintendos b!tch

better to be Nintendo's b!tch than a peasent. Nintendo has Fire Emblem.

@megabeast spoken like a true peasant.

Fire Emblem on the Famicom was great. Don't understand Japanese, but I got the jist of the game.

Modifié par TheCandlejack, 22 décembre 2012 - 06:17 .

[TJLenz]

Did the consoles win yet?

[Mahrac]

TheCandlejack wrote...

Mahrac wrote...

TheCandlejack wrote...

Mahrac wrote...

megabeast37215 wrote...

Kataigida wrote...
Well...given that BW has said that they have made more money from the multiplayer than they would any SP DLC...

If it's down to a contest of who is likely to spend ore money on a game for no good reason, who do you think it would be? Console players, or those PC players that have already sunk hundreds if not thousands into their custom gaming PCs to squeeze every last FpS from their processors and every last beautiful pixel?

You'll have to ask BW... but just based on the sheer number of console gamers, I'm going to go with consolers again. 100,00 potential buyers > 10,000

Hell I just had a buddy pay real $$$ for 6 Reserve packs so he could get the last 6-7 Retaliation characters...

Which brings back my point. The inferior will always outnumber the superior. Even so, the PC Master Race will stand forever.

Consoles will always be there too because of big name titles like Mario, Zelda, Super Smash Brothers, Final Fantasy, Mass Effect, Call of Duty, Resident Evil, Devil May Cry, Halo, Assassins Creed, Grand Theft Auto, God of War, Uncharted, Gran Turismo, Need for Speed etc. Consoles have a big appeal to people because it doesn't require tons of money to constantly upgrade your system to support more advanced games that are available for consoles as well which rounds out to a smaller price (examples: Assassins Creed, Call of Duty, Grand Theft Auto, Crysis etc.)

So many in that list that are available to Us too. And I'll have you know I'm running AC3 on the same PC that ran AC1 and AoE2. That's more than ten years of games.

No kidding, but what I'm saying is that the games that are available to PC, are also available to consoles at a much cheaper price due to not having to worry about having the proper system specifications to run it at an acceptable speed. Instead of shelling out $230 for an Intel Core 2 Duo or $320 for an i7 plus another $290 for the motherboard, you can get a 360 for $250 that comes bundled with some extra goodies, and get the same games for $60 or so.

Once again a TEN YEAR OLD PC is running ME3 at a more than accetable speed. Although if my anti-virus and a couple Total War games are running it starts to lag.

[megabeast37215]

Mahrac wrote...
Once again a TEN YEAR OLD PC is running ME3 at a more than accetable speed. Although if my anti-virus and a couple Total War games are running it starts to lag.

I call BS.

[TheCandlejack]

Mahrac wrote...

TheCandlejack wrote...

Mahrac wrote...

TheCandlejack wrote...

Mahrac wrote...

megabeast37215 wrote...

Kataigida wrote...
Well...given that BW has said that they have made more money from the multiplayer than they would any SP DLC...

If it's down to a contest of who is likely to spend ore money on a game for no good reason, who do you think it would be? Console players, or those PC players that have already sunk hundreds if not thousands into their custom gaming PCs to squeeze every last FpS from their processors and every last beautiful pixel?

You'll have to ask BW... but just based on the sheer number of console gamers, I'm going to go with consolers again. 100,00 potential buyers > 10,000

Hell I just had a buddy pay real $$$ for 6 Reserve packs so he could get the last 6-7 Retaliation characters...

Which brings back my point. The inferior will always outnumber the superior. Even so, the PC Master Race will stand forever.

Consoles will always be there too because of big name titles like Mario, Zelda, Super Smash Brothers, Final Fantasy, Mass Effect, Call of Duty, Resident Evil, Devil May Cry, Halo, Assassins Creed, Grand Theft Auto, God of War, Uncharted, Gran Turismo, Need for Speed etc. Consoles have a big appeal to people because it doesn't require tons of money to constantly upgrade your system to support more advanced games that are available for consoles as well which rounds out to a smaller price (examples: Assassins Creed, Call of Duty, Grand Theft Auto, Crysis etc.)

So many in that list that are available to Us too. And I'll have you know I'm running AC3 on the same PC that ran AC1 and AoE2. That's more than ten years of games.

No kidding, but what I'm saying is that the games that are available to PC, are also available to consoles at a much cheaper price due to not having to worry about having the proper system specifications to run it at an acceptable speed. Instead of shelling out $230 for an Intel Core 2 Duo or $320 for an i7 plus another $290 for the motherboard, you can get a 360 for $250 that comes bundled with some extra goodies, and get the same games for $60 or so.

Once again a TEN YEAR OLD PC is running ME3 at a more than accetable speed. Although if my anti-virus and a couple Total War games are running it starts to lag.

What are your system specifications?

[Mahrac]

TheCandlejack wrote...

Mahrac wrote...

TheCandlejack wrote...

PC gamers owe their spot to Nintendo. If Nintendo didn't come out with Super Mario Bros after that travesty of ET on the Atari 2600, gaming probably wouldn't be happening today. Eg. PC is Nintendos b!tch

better to be Nintendo's b!tch than a peasent. Nintendo has Fire Emblem.

@megabeast spoken like a true peasant.

Fire Emblem on the Famicom was great. Don't understand Japanese, but I got the jist of the game.

I'm considering shelling out for a 3DS if the next one is as good as it looks. If you were a part of the Master Race you could get the emulator and ROMS for 6 thru 8. In English.

[BurningLiquor]

TJLenz wrote...

Did the consoles win yet?

No. And they never will.

[AkuIaTubShark]

megabeast37215 wrote...

Mahrac wrote...
Once again a TEN YEAR OLD PC is running ME3 at a more than accetable speed. Although if my anti-virus and a couple Total War games are running it starts to lag.

I call BS.

It is, Mega. I have a 6yr old PC in my closet that, if I started it up right now, would lag out trying to run GW1 on the lowest settings.
The only way I can even see it possible, is if he/she went out of their way and bought a AW computer back when they were good. 

[Mahrac]

megabeast37215 wrote...

Mahrac wrote...
Once again a TEN YEAR OLD PC is running ME3 at a more than accetable speed. Although if my anti-virus and a couple Total War games are running it starts to lag.

I call BS.

Fine. One Total War game and seven years ago.

Wait, I got a new one last year. ****.

Modifié par Mahrac, 22 décembre 2012 - 06:22 .

[TheCandlejack]

Mahrac wrote...

TheCandlejack wrote...

Mahrac wrote...

TheCandlejack wrote...

PC gamers owe their spot to Nintendo. If Nintendo didn't come out with Super Mario Bros after that travesty of ET on the Atari 2600, gaming probably wouldn't be happening today. Eg. PC is Nintendos b!tch

better to be Nintendo's b!tch than a peasent. Nintendo has Fire Emblem.

@megabeast spoken like a true peasant.

Fire Emblem on the Famicom was great. Don't understand Japanese, but I got the jist of the game.

I'm considering shelling out for a 3DS if the next one is as good as it looks. If you were a part of the Master Race you could get the emulator and ROMS for 6 thru 8. In English.

I have several emulators on my system. I have the games in English. So there. I have the GC/Wii emulator, N64 emulator, Dreamcast emulator, MAME, NES, SNES, and a PS1 emulator.

Modifié par TheCandlejack, 22 décembre 2012 - 06:23 .

[Veginator]

megabeast37215 wrote...

Mahrac wrote...

PCs shall stand forever. Consols have the... unfortunate... side effect of taking up a TV to do their work. A PC has no such limitation. Don't fool yourself; you may get our scraps, but you will never surpass us.

Maybe you'd be right if PC didn't use a freakin' keyboard instead of a controller...

A qwerty keyboard is the most hideous piece of gaming equipment in the entire industry... ok... the Kinect is worse... but that's it.

Do you know why there is no crossover play between consoles and PC's?

Microsoft planned to do it.  See this article: http://forum.frontro...n-the-coffin/p1


TLDR version: Microsoft scrapped crossover play because mediocre PC players with a mouse and keyboard wiped the floor with professional console players.

The mouse & keyboard is the best control scheme ever for FPS games.  The same thing was actually tried by Sega with Quake 3 on the dreamcast about 12 years ago.  The average score of PC player vs console player was 82 to -3.  It's THAT lopsided.  The PC control scheme is superior in virtually every aspect.

[BridgeBurner]

GroverA125 wrote...

PC games and platforms are sustained by the consoles, without them, not only would the computer gaming industry have never lifted off, it would collapse and you'd be buggered any way. Consoles can survive without PC support, not the other way around

The lucrative business that Steam is, and successful indie games like Magicka beg to differ.

You're living in a bubble. PC games have always existed, and always will. The idea that PC games are somehow only possible because of consoles is quite frankly ridiculous.

There are swathes of PC specific titles and PC ported titles which sell highly; highly enough that developers continue to develop or port for PC.

The prevalance of a particular system (in this case xbox, which has a significat share of the market) is due to the inexpensive nature of consoles, and the fact that some people are content to pay the same amount for an entire console as some people are prepared to pay for a graphics card; balanced out by the fact that in many countires, Xbox titles on launch are sold to console mugs who pay 30-40% more for the same title that a PC user can play.

For example, Borderlands 2 is currently £10 (around $15) cheaper on amazon for PC than it is for xbox.

Popularity = more profit.

More profit =/= more invested in a game, particularly with publishers like EA and Activision running the joint.

And as for your comment that the PC game industry would never exist, there was a game called Unreal, then there was Unreal Tournament. Before gears of war was even a twinkle in Cliffy B's eye, Epic were making PC specific titles and built their entire company on the success of PC titles, and are making a return to PC specific titles with Fortnite.

I could go on about successful F2P games for PC, PC specific titles, high selling PC ports, but you probably aren't listening anyway.

Please, refrain from posting fallacious nonsense in future.

Modifié par Annomander, 22 décembre 2012 - 06:31 .

[megabeast37215]

AkuIaTubShark wrote...

megabeast37215 wrote...

Mahrac wrote...
Once again a TEN YEAR OLD PC is running ME3 at a more than accetable speed. Although if my anti-virus and a couple Total War games are running it starts to lag.

I call BS.

It is, Mega. I have a 6yr old PC in my closet that, if I started it up right now, would lag out trying to run GW1 on the lowest settings.
The only way I can even see it possible, is if he/she went out of their way and bought a AW computer back when they were good. 

I know right....

I have a 5 year old PC and I had to upgrade it just to play Starcraft 2 last year... dude is full of it.

Like I said... maybe he has the same case, but the guts must've been upgraded at some point.