Aller au contenu

Photo

Do You Expect the Final DLC to be Ending Related? (POLL)


  • Veuillez vous connecter pour répondre
228 réponses à ce sujet

#1
StElmo

StElmo
  • Members
  • 4 997 messages
Stelmo is back for more polling!

So there are big things happening at bioware, all the edmonton writing team are working on a DLC that also features new and supposedly tearful music from Sam Hulick - who did not compose for the prior ME3 DLCs.

So with that in mind, do you think this DLC will clear up ending questions? will it be Puzzle Theory, IT, More Clarification? Or will it be a side quest?

Simple poll below.

social.bioware.com/1968682/polls/42490/

EDIT: I heard a good argument that the people who will buy DLC this late, are the same people who want to spend more time in the universe and love it a lot - like super fans.

Are those people the ones on BSN? Where else would you go to discuss mass effect so easily? I think this poll is significant in that sense.

Modifié par StElmo, 03 janvier 2013 - 03:18 .


#2
Ghaleon

Ghaleon
  • Members
  • 243 messages
Don't think it will be Bioware seems to have set their stance on that in stone. But i really wish it was

#3
Jonata

Jonata
  • Members
  • 2 269 messages
How many time will they have to repeat that they are done with the endings? Like it or not there won't be any other changes to the endings as they are after the Extended Cut.

This was probably one of the DLCs that were on schedule even before the whole endings uproar that made them work on the EC... I'm pretty curious about it, though. With all the writing team working on the story and Sam Hulick composing it sounds pretty big for a sidequest.

Modifié par Jonata, 23 décembre 2012 - 06:36 .


#4
XxBrokenBonezxX

XxBrokenBonezxX
  • Members
  • 398 messages
I think it's obvious what the majority wants, but no, it probably won't be.

#5
RocketManSR2

RocketManSR2
  • Members
  • 2 974 messages
No, but I came back in the hopes that BioWare changes their minds for the final one. I also heard about how "all hands were on deck" and 8 writers were at work on it (if only the ending had had that many :unsure:), along with Hulick doing quite a bit of new music.

Modifié par RocketManSR2, 23 décembre 2012 - 06:42 .


#6
LucasShark

LucasShark
  • Members
  • 3 894 messages
No, and it will be underwhelming and a bit tedious like the others, and probably charge too much for what is there.

#7
sH0tgUn jUliA

sH0tgUn jUliA
  • Members
  • 16 818 messages
No I don't expect it to be, but I hope it completes Puzzle Theory,

#8
Guest_BringBackNihlus_*

Guest_BringBackNihlus_*
  • Guests

sH0tgUn jUliA wrote...

No I don't expect it to be, but I hope it completes Puzzle Theory,


Yeah, that.

#9
devSin

devSin
  • Members
  • 8 929 messages
I don't know what this last DLC is going to be, but I doubt it will affect the ending in any meaningful way (certainly, it's not going to fix anything).

#10
Guest_magnetite_*

Guest_magnetite_*
  • Guests
They've said before, no more closure, no new endings and such. Some stuff they explained far more than they needed to. The final DLC will wrap up the trilogy, that's for sure. They can't wrap up every single detail though. Even Star Wars or Star Trek doesn't do that. That's the cool thing about sci-fi, it leaves some stuff unexplained and mysterious. 

I think it's obvious what the majority wants, but no, it probably won't be.

I've done some research into this majority phenomenon, and at least as far as the BSN is concerned, there have been roughly about 9000 new posts in the last week in the Mass Effect 3 story forum. This game sold over 4 million copies. So, I'd say BSN is the vast minority. Kind of debunks that whole "BSN is the majority of the fanbase" thing some have been saying. Or the vocal ones are the only ones who they listen to.

Modifié par magnetite, 23 décembre 2012 - 07:17 .


#11
RocketManSR2

RocketManSR2
  • Members
  • 2 974 messages

magnetite wrote...

I've done some research into this majority phenomenon, and at least as far as the BSN is concerned, there have been roughly about 9000 new posts in the last week in the Mass Effect 3 story forum. This game sold over 4 million copies. So, I'd say BSN is the vast minority. Kind of debunks that whole "BSN is the majority of the fanbase" thing some have been saying. Or the vocal ones are the only ones who they listen to.


It doesn't debunk anything. The BSN is a fairly large sample size of players. I'd wager a lot of others share our dislike of the ending.

#12
Ieldra

Ieldra
  • Members
  • 25 190 messages
@OP:
It would surprise me the new DLC affected the ending. The only thing that would change the mood of the ending significantly enough to make it worthwhile to produce is doing away with the Catalyst as the source of the exposition of the options of the final choice. I don't think they're going to do anything that radical.

Edit:
As for the "majority" opinion: large or small, we're not a representative sample.

Modifié par Ieldra2, 23 décembre 2012 - 07:35 .


#13
Maniccc

Maniccc
  • Members
  • 372 messages

magnetite wrote...

I've done some research into this majority phenomenon, and at least as far as the BSN is concerned, there have been roughly about 9000 new posts in the last week in the Mass Effect 3 story forum. This game sold over 4 million copies. So, I'd say BSN is the vast minority. Kind of debunks that whole "BSN is the majority of the fanbase" thing some have been saying. Or the vocal ones are the only ones who they listen to.


Of course the people on BSN are only a small portion of the entire fanbase, but that's now what matters.  The question is this: are they representative of the fanbase at large.  We don't know, but all things being equal, if I was running Bioware, I would pay close attention to what the vocal and intense fans were saying.  Marketing tells us that the small number of hardcore fans are the most powerful advertising you can get, and the marketing pros are right about this.  These small galvanized groups are the ones providing information and opinions all over the internet, opinions that the less intense fans, and especially the merely curious, rely on to make a decision.

User feedback is the most powerful tool in advertising if the feedback is positive; if negative it can be your worst enemy and cost you lots of money to fight.  It is always important to keep the most loyal fans generally happy, because if they feel betrayed, they will cause lots of problems.

#14
Guest_magnetite_*

Guest_magnetite_*
  • Guests
People can make suggestions, but it's up to the developers whether they include those suggestions or not. Gotta work with a budget, like any business.

There's been many fan suggestions in other games that weren't included, but to some it wasn't a big deal.

It is always important to keep the most loyal fans generally happy, because if they feel betrayed, they will cause lots of problems.


Fans will cause problems? As in the sludgestorm that happened back in March? That was more of an overreaction. The devs said the fans reacted before "having all the facts".

Don't take this the wrong way, but the way I see that is if they don't give the loyal fans what they want, they'll go elsewhere, or get really vocal about it until they get what they want.

Just sounds like manipulation or strong arming them into doing what the fans want. To me, it's kind of similar to the whole football fans own the franchise argument that if the developers don't do what the fans want, they'll stop supporting them and they'll lose money or sales because of it.

Sooner or later, the artists and creators of this game will solely be the fans or that the content will be purely be dictated by the fans wishes, but the developers doing all the work. These guys have been in this business for 20 years. Fans have no experience in how to make games, so they aren't really a good judge of what is good or not for a game.

Anyways getting a bit off track.

Modifié par magnetite, 23 décembre 2012 - 08:13 .


#15
ash2880

ash2880
  • Members
  • 17 messages
By leaking details about all the writers being involved, Seth Green doing more v/o work, the music, etc, they're clearly trying to create the impression that the upcoming DLC is major and significant.

This has already lead to people thinking "Hmm, a major and significant DLC must deal with the ending in some way!" And rightfully so in a sense, because it's a logical conclusion to draw. Especially if you've been holding out hope for something more.

And the day the DLC is announced, we learn it has nothing to do with the ending, and disappointed fans voice their displeasure, I fully expect that Bioware will come out saying "What? Why would anyone think it would relate to the ending? We said we were done with that." As if they never even imagined people would think that.

Because that's just how they roll.

Modifié par ash2880, 23 décembre 2012 - 10:11 .


#16
chidingewe8036

chidingewe8036
  • Members
  • 1 528 messages
Well i'll tell you what, it better be ending related because if they want ME4 or whatever to be a success they need to do something with those endings. If they have not thought about that yet they need to go back to the drawing board and start this particular DLC from the beginning and make it ending related because that is the only thing that will save this franchise and give it any type of future for the past, present, and future fans of Mass Effect.

#17
Brovikk Rasputin

Brovikk Rasputin
  • Members
  • 3 825 messages
No. Bioware have said it will not be, a million times. Move on..

#18
Jadebaby

Jadebaby
  • Members
  • 13 229 messages
Yes, and I want it too.

#19
shit's fucked cunts

shit's fucked cunts
  • Members
  • 9 536 messages
Expect it to, no. Want it to, yes.

#20
Dr_Extrem

Dr_Extrem
  • Members
  • 4 092 messages

Brovikk Rasputin wrote...

No. Bioware have said it will not be, a million times. Move on..


you could call leviathan ending related though.

#21
Binary_Helix 1

Binary_Helix 1
  • Members
  • 2 655 messages

magnetite wrote...

I've done some research into this majority phenomenon, and at least as far as the BSN is concerned, there have been roughly about 9000 new posts in the last week in the Mass Effect 3 story forum. This game sold over 4 million copies. So, I'd say BSN is the vast minority. Kind of debunks that whole "BSN is the majority of the fanbase" thing some have been saying. Or the vocal ones are the only ones who they listen to.


Why do "pro-enders" assume that most fans are on their side? What little evidence exists on any "consensus" is that ME3 is the least popular of the trilogy (forum outrage, internet protests, fan fiction cults, retcon DLC). There is no silent majority.

Modifié par Binary_Helix 1, 23 décembre 2012 - 11:04 .


#22
Brovikk Rasputin

Brovikk Rasputin
  • Members
  • 3 825 messages

Dr_Extrem wrote...

Brovikk Rasputin wrote...

No. Bioware have said it will not be, a million times. Move on..


you could call leviathan ending related though.

That's stretching it a bit, don't you think. It only adds a few lines of dialogue, but that's about it.

#23
Rifneno

Rifneno
  • Members
  • 12 076 messages
ROFL. More of these "BW said something and even though the last 8 million things they told us were bald-faced lies, how can you not believe this one?!" types. Awesome.

#24
Dr_Extrem

Dr_Extrem
  • Members
  • 4 092 messages

Brovikk Rasputin wrote...

Dr_Extrem wrote...

Brovikk Rasputin wrote...

No. Bioware have said it will not be, a million times. Move on..


you could call leviathan ending related though.

That's stretching it a bit, don't you think. It only adds a few lines of dialogue, but that's about it.


not really .. it tried to hint the catalyst and the motivation of the reapers - this is ending related.

#25
SpamBot2000

SpamBot2000
  • Members
  • 4 463 messages

Ghaleon80 wrote...

Don't think it will be Bioware seems to have set their stance on that in stone. But i really wish it was


That reminds me of something I once heard...

"United we can break a fate once set in stone. Just hold the line until the end."

We'll free the Earth and sky.