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[ElSuperGecko]

Yeah, I think the final DLC will affect the endings. It might not change the endings as such, but it should give us some serious insight into the Cruicible, the Ghost Kid and the manner of the choices and their implications. I imagine it could be used to bridge into ME4, and I wouldn't rule out a final twist in the tale before ME3's story is done, either.

Also - I expect Harbinger and the Collectors to make a much-anticipated return. The Collector faction has been successfully implemented in the ME3 game enging already in multiplayer, and a chance to talk trash (and potentially settle the score) with Harbinger is an unmissable opportunity for Bioware and EA. Plus - the potential for an actual battle with/in/onboard a living Reaper?

Plenty of life left in this story yet.

[element eater]

not in a way anyone wants maybe in a superficial manner

[StElmo]

Jonata wrote...

How many time will they have to repeat that they are done with the endings? Like it or not there won't be any other changes to the endings as they are after the Extended Cut.

This was probably one of the DLCs that were on schedule even before the whole endings uproar that made them work on the EC... I'm pretty curious about it, though. With all the writing team working on the story and Sam Hulick composing it sounds pretty big for a sidequest.

BioWare say a lot of things, I have no reason to believe them - I guess? Companies always want to surprise their customers, maybe they are saving something up, maybe not - but I won't take PR word for it.

Modifié par StElmo, 24 décembre 2012 - 12:59 .

[fil009]

RocketManSR2 wrote...

No, but I came back in the hopes that BioWare changes their minds for the final one. I also heard about how "all hands were on deck" and 8 writers were at work on it (if only the ending had had that many ), along with Hulick doing quite a bit of new music.

Hahaha so true....

[V-rcingetorix]

magnetite wrote...

They've said before, no more closure, no new endings and such. Some stuff they explained far more than they needed to. The final DLC will wrap up the trilogy, that's for sure. They can't wrap up every single detail though. Even Star Wars or Star Trek doesn't do that. That's the cool thing about sci-fi, it leaves some stuff unexplained and mysterious. 

I think it's obvious what the majority wants, but no, it probably won't be.

I've done some research into this majority phenomenon, and at least as far as the BSN is concerned, there have been roughly about 9000 new posts in the last week in the Mass Effect 3 story forum. This game sold over 4 million copies. So, I'd say BSN is the vast minority. Kind of debunks that whole "BSN is the majority of the fanbase" thing some have been saying. Or the vocal ones are the only ones who they listen to.

Statistics is an interesting field; I hope I haven't missed a later post of yours, but this looked intriguing.

Are the "majority" of people who want a happy ending BSN people? Are the happy people not BSN members? How is a mojority defined?

The most difficult definition for me is defining a "player." I personally have played the first two Mass Effect games around a dozen times each; does my opinion carry more weight than someone who played the first game, uploaded their file to the second game, but only played half-way through it? Is a "serious" player the only player worth listening too?

The answer goes simply to money, I think. Serious players buy DLC, as do many non-serious players. Whomever contributes the most cash, and is most vocal, gets the most attention. Therefore, the people on BSN are the most vocal, but their financial contributions are unknown.

The question should be: who pays more, BSN people or everyone else?

EDIT: well now, if I haven't gone a nd missed the whole point!
The DLC looks like the BSN people are being listened too. Why would BioWare give out ending DLC when they can coax more money by leaving it for last?

Modifié par V-rcingetorix, 25 décembre 2012 - 02:22 .

[Aarkaan]

chidingewe8036 wrote...

Well i'll tell you what, it better be ending related because if they want ME4 or whatever to be a success they need to do something with those endings. If they have not thought about that yet they need to go back to the drawing board and start this particular DLC from the beginning and make it ending related because that is the only thing that will save this franchise and give it any type of future for the past, present, and future fans of Mass Effect.

These...

[StElmo]

thanks for the answerings guys big poll response!

[ME859]

V-rcingetorix wrote...

Statistics is an interesting field; I hope I haven't missed a later post of yours, but this looked intriguing.

Are the "majority" of people who want a happy ending BSN people? Are the happy people not BSN members? How is a mojority defined?

The most difficult definition for me is defining a "player." I personally have played the first two Mass Effect games around a dozen times each; does my opinion carry more weight than someone who played the first game, uploaded their file to the second game, but only played half-way through it? Is a "serious" player the only player worth listening too?

The answer goes simply to money, I think. Serious players buy DLC, as do many non-serious players. Whomever contributes the most cash, and is most vocal, gets the most attention. Therefore, the people on BSN are the most vocal, but their financial contributions are unknown.

The question should be: who pays more, BSN people or everyone else?

EDIT: well now, if I haven't gone a nd missed the whole point!
The DLC looks like the BSN people are being listened too. Why would BioWare give out ending DLC when they can coax more money by leaving it for last?

I've said it before but I'd say BSN, or any semi-regular on a Mass Effect forum is probably your best pool of prospects for DLC weather it be for multiplayer or SP content.  Your average casual Call of Duty gamer that just jumped on the bandwagon has probably moved on by now and probably doesn't even know what Leviathan and Retake Omega are, never mind From Ashes.  The ones that come online to discuss the series are more likely to be invested and in turn more likely to be interested in DLC content.  

If you're relying on people to make impulse purchases because they might have seen an ad banner on the PSN Store or XBox Live marketplace then you're going to have a bad time especially when they see the price tag for something they know little if anything about.  

Take me for example, my first Mass Effect game was ME2 on PS3.  At the time all the DLC was included and it probably took me 6 months to a year to learn what DLC was.  I only learned about it by going online and reading up on Mass Effect because I loved the game.  Now if it took me that long to learn about it how long do you think it will take a casual shooter fan that wants less talking and more shooting?

Modifié par ME859, 26 décembre 2012 - 03:13 .

[Brownfinger]

krukow wrote...


Seriously people, they've said it's over, get over it.

the whole BSN needs to watch this:
http://www.dailymoti...-get-a-life_fun

This.
It's long over. Move on.

We need to get Mark Meer to parody that. "It's just a game, people. Get a life!"

Even if I was still angry three or four years from now about any game (which, as a mentally healthy individual, I'm sure I'm incapable of that, anyway), I doubt that anger would make a dent in sales. Only the malcontents will hold onto it forever, the rest will come around because it will probably be a well-made game.

[Jadebaby]

oh my god, numbers don't lie.....

[M4RVELOUS_MiKE]

I actually expect the endings to be the focus of the seemingly last SP DLC. However not in the sense that some people might expect.

I don't know if I'm alone in this, but I have a strong feeling that Bioware might pull off a repeat of what they did after ME2, when they released the Arrival DLC.

Under the assumption that ME4 will be taking place a relatively short period after ME3, Bioware really limited themselves with the RGB endings. Obviously if ME4 is a direct sequal, featuring a new main character, Bioware would still have to take these endings into consideration in one of three ways;

1) Have each ending factor into ME4. To me this would be impossible, as we would literally have three different games.

2) Make one ending canon and go from there. This seems a bit more plausible, though it would surely upset a big part of the fanbase.

or...

3) Do as with Arrival for ME2 and add a plot that takes place after the endings, which creates a cornerstone for ME4 to build on, effectively to a greater extent ignoring the endings of ME3.

This last one seems very plausible, as it puts Bioware pretty much on an empty page, with the ability to create a whole new story, though with most of the elementary parts of the lore intact.

To be honest, if ME4 indeed does become a sequal, I wouldn't be shocked at all if we actually gets a first glimpse of the new main character in this last SP DLC.

Doing a repeat of Arrival does in my opinion make a lot of sense, due to the problems that the endings poses for a sequal.

[Rachek81]

you know everyone, that Casey Hudson character already went on record saying that no new endings etc will be created, what everyone seems to have forgotten is that we may not have seen all the endings they created. It's a long shot but I think they have already created this 'other' post DLC ending that they have been refining and polishing since launch. Casey isn't exactly lying about not releasing new endings, not if this alleged ending has been planned from the beginning

[Mobuse]

Has it been confirmed that the next Single Player DLC will be the last one?

[RocketManSR2]

Jade8aby88 wrote...

oh my god, numbers don't lie.....

lol Vocal minority my ass. BioWare had better open it's eyes.

[RocketManSR2]

Mobuse wrote...

Has it been confirmed that the next Single Player DLC will be the last one?

Not to my knowledge, no. Bringing everyone in for it including 8 writers and quite a bit of new music makes it appear like a DLC finale, however.

[StElmo]

OH CRAP I DIDN'T PUT AN OPTION IN MY POLL TO ALLOW PEOPLE TO HATE ON ME ):

damn... that was a tradition ):

I liked getting internet hate, because its funny and inoffensive - because internet

Modifié par StElmo, 28 décembre 2012 - 04:49 .

[ref]

Of course not. Everyone is just getting overly excited, but in reality it's all just pre-release BioWare hype jargon non sense that will equate to nothing more than some pre-ending linear 2 hour DLC.

[RocketManSR2]

Oh, I'm not excited in the least. 88%, BioWare, 88%. That may be a small sample, but ignoring results like that will come back to bite you in the ass.

[Archonsg]

Actually, BSN isn't a good indicator of Bioware's success or failure.
EA's financial reports are.

Oddly enough though EA's report for Q2 Y13 2012, makes no mention of Bioware's earnings or success even though, EA claimed an increase in revenue via digital distribution.

It would be interesting to see Bioware's numbers and then correlate it with ME3 / SWTOR's release time frames and see just how well they did.

[StElmo]

I guess we will see! fans are good for spreading word about games though.

[Massa FX]

BW said no. Many times. In fact, the no more changes to the ending works for me. As a devout IT'er, the game ended when beam struck Shepard. At times, I can see it ending when the arms opened, but that's on my more generous days.

For my playthroughs, destroy is Shepard beating indoctrination and waking up in rubble is where the saga should continue. My head cannon is boss.

[Massa FX]

crimzontearz wrote...

Fnork wrote...

The only thing remotely related to the ending I expect to see in the DLC is a bunch of war assets.

sadly.....

Yup. Shepard grabbing more ass-ets is just what ME fans want. Moar Ass-ets please! yup.

[M920CAIN]

Archonsg wrote...

magnetite wrote...

Throw in a LI reunion like what MEHEM did, and those who thought Shepard deserved better go away feeling "Yes! We did it!"

That doesn't fit the theme of the third game. It's a war story, where billions of lives have been extinguished by Reapers. It's got a ton of dark content.

And you are welcomed to all the dark content you want.

Apparenty, I played a very different game where dispite centuries of hatred and bigotry, the Galaxy's Races banded together.

Despite fear and selfishness, one sacrificed his life to give his racial enemies hope for the future.

Despite all the deaths happening at the galactic scale, one person, stood up and said "No, we won't lay down and die, quietly into the night." and gave hope to many without even that of their own survival.

I played a game that over the course of 5 years, and three episodes, told me that there is value in the human spirit, that one can do the impossible, and that I didn't have to resort to betrayal nor use the enemies' tactics to win. (well up to those last 10 mins)

I played a game of hope.
What game did you play?


ps: edits because posting from a phone is  ... painful

This one has spoke the truth.

[T-Raks]

StElmo wrote...

OH CRAP I DIDN'T PUT AN OPTION IN MY POLL TO ALLOW PEOPLE TO HATE ON ME ):

damn... that was a tradition ):

I liked getting internet hate, because its funny and inoffensive - because internet

:)That was the first thing I thought is missing. Also an "I have no idea" option which is my state of mind right now.

[NM_Che56]

GT Zazzerka wrote...

Expect it to, no. Want it to, yes.

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