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[Aolbain]

SpunkyMonkey wrote...

Aolbain wrote...

SpunkyMonkey wrote...

Swagger7 wrote...

If it will explode my Xbox and kill me I won't buy it. Otherwise it's pretty certain I will.

What if the CD is made out of dog faceas? lol. Seriously though, I'm surprized at how many people are willingly prepared to spend money on a product which could be utter dross, without even looking into it first.

Pre-orders, for all entertainment media not just games or BW games, baffle me.

I see where you are coming from but no Bioware game I have bought (exept BG1, my copy seams to be buged as hell) have disappointed me in any major way, so based on that a pre-order dont seams so unreasonable.
What this says about my taste in games we should not dwell on...

Lol.

I just think that it allows game companies to adopt an attitude that it's OK to cut corners on certain things because, regardless of the outcome, if other things are done right and put in place a lot of people will pre-order anyway.

Certainly I think game quality would improve if there was no pre-order system. I know that if I'd already earnt several million before even releasing a product I really wouldn't give a toss how polished or good that product was on release.

Hence the stupidly abundant amount of games which are released with bugs and needing patches, right off the bat. Players should be more patient for releases, but game companies should take more pride in their work too IMO.

For all its worth I wish I had the willpower to withold a buy.

[sylvanaerie]

I'll be getting it, regardless of what companions are offered, what the story consists of, what the PC's sound like (or don't). I, for one, am happy they are sticking with voiced protagonist. After playing DA2, I felt a profound disconnect from the Warden and her silent responses and plastic expressions. That said I have to say I enjoyed immensely DAO, DA:Awakenings and DA2. I'm really enjoying Thedas and the story at the moment and frankly I am waiting with bated breath for the next chapter!

[Uccio]

philosopher09 wrote...

Speechless Warden was the dullest character I ever played in a BioWare game.
@Ukki: Do you even own ME3? It is a fine game, certainly a lot better than ME2 or DA2, even if the ending could still be better.

I don´t own ME3. I do own 1 and 2 though and I did not like the way the game serie was developing. Also DA2 was such a kick on the balls that I became very cautious for ME3. Therefore I waited for the gamer reviews of the ME3 and watched some youtube videos. With those I could see that it was not worth buying. Not even now with low price. For me ME serie ended with my Shepard getting ready for the showdown with Reapers in ME2.

Modifié par Ukki, 24 décembre 2012 - 11:57 .

[Karlone123]

Versus Omnibus wrote...

But... I liked Jo Wyatt's performance in DA2.

The not so famously known voice actors tend to do a really good job.

[Fallstar]

scyphozoa wrote...

Not sure why people make the "or I won't buy it" argument. No one cares about an individual sale, or even a few thousand sales. You're talking about a product that is expected to reach ~5 million different human beings on planet earth, and you think your one single unit is leverage?

Such narcissism.

DA2 didn't come close to 5 million.

The reason people make the "or I won't buy it argument" is that at the end of the day, all a consumer can do to show whether or not they like the direction a product is heading in is to buy or not buy that product. A single individual might not make much difference, but hundreds of thousands of individuals not buying the game (or even millions in this case) who bought the previous game but not this one, will be noticed by the people who matter.

Modifié par DuskWarden, 24 décembre 2012 - 06:29 .

[Jonata]

DuskWarden wrote...

DA2 didn't come close to 5 million.

The reason people make the "or I won't buy it argument" is that at the end of the day, all a consumer can do to show whether or not they like the direction a product is heading in is to buy or not buy that product. A single individual might not make much difference, but hundreds of thousands of individuals not buying the game (or even millions in this case) who bought the previous game but not this one, will be noticed by the people who matter.

I would believe you if "costumers" would just do that: I don't like it, I don't buy it. But people come here and for every single "unhappy costumer" there are hundreds of thousands of individual topics clogging the forum with whining, so I'm starting to believe that the "I won't buy it" argument is just yet another topic to insult BioWare, which is also the BSN national sport. 

PS: Mass Effect 3 is a very successfull game despite the outcry of the "fans" reached the stratosphere. So maybe this entitlement isn't as powerful as it seems. 

[Sainna]

Jonata wrote...

DuskWarden wrote...

DA2 didn't come close to 5 million.

The reason people make the "or I won't buy it argument" is that at the end of the day, all a consumer can do to show whether or not they like the direction a product is heading in is to buy or not buy that product. A single individual might not make much difference, but hundreds of thousands of individuals not buying the game (or even millions in this case) who bought the previous game but not this one, will be noticed by the people who matter.

I would believe you if "costumers" would just do that: I don't like it, I don't buy it. But people come here and for every single "unhappy costumer" there are hundreds of thousands of individual topics clogging the forum with whining, so I'm starting to believe that the "I won't buy it" argument is just yet another topic to insult BioWare, which is also the BSN national sport. 

PS: Mass Effect 3 is a very successfull game despite the outcry of the "fans" reached the stratosphere. So maybe this entitlement isn't as powerful as it seems. 

Actually the fan outcry damaged mass effect 3 sales quite a bit in the long run. It was the same with Dragon age 2 as when people got their hands on it and fans went Grrrrr, the sales went poofff unlike Dragon age 1 that did good for a veryyyy long time due to very positive reactions by fans.

This topic of course is silly! Just wanted to point out that people cant deny the damage the RAEG did to ME3 ( with good reason, screw the ending! But dear god all that lousy auto dialog, horrific side pick up quests and so forth /hiss)

[DukeFirewood]

I want a more animated PC while talking. I dunno what it is about RPG's, but the PC is sooooo monotonous while talking! I would love the PC to show emotion when angry and to really get his suave on when talking up a female party member .

[Xeranx]

A voiced PC, for me, renders me unable to play a male character (that's on top of already poor character customization for male characters).

Looking at my avatar, I couldn't imagine the voice of male Hawke coming from him. It doesn't match his look. Female Hawke was no problem for me on the other hand. And this is not the first time I ran into this issue, but it was limited before to just battle cries. In DA:O I hated every single voice for male. Every single one was terrible and it was the same in Neverwinter Nights. All sounded too caucasian. Female side never gave me that kind of trouble.

Also, (this is loosely related to voice overs) the elf part totally made it impossible for me to play a male. Features were way to anglo and the voices there didn't help either. I'm figuring that DA3 is going to be more of the same. So if I buy the game, it'll be female only again for me.

[Conduit0]

Sainna wrote...

Jonata wrote...

DuskWarden wrote...

DA2 didn't come close to 5 million.

The reason people make the "or I won't buy it argument" is that at the end of the day, all a consumer can do to show whether or not they like the direction a product is heading in is to buy or not buy that product. A single individual might not make much difference, but hundreds of thousands of individuals not buying the game (or even millions in this case) who bought the previous game but not this one, will be noticed by the people who matter.

I would believe you if "costumers" would just do that: I don't like it, I don't buy it. But people come here and for every single "unhappy costumer" there are hundreds of thousands of individual topics clogging the forum with whining, so I'm starting to believe that the "I won't buy it" argument is just yet another topic to insult BioWare, which is also the BSN national sport. 

PS: Mass Effect 3 is a very successfull game despite the outcry of the "fans" reached the stratosphere. So maybe this entitlement isn't as powerful as it seems. 

Actually the fan outcry damaged mass effect 3 sales quite a bit in the long run. It was the same with Dragon age 2 as when people got their hands on it and fans went Grrrrr, the sales went poofff unlike Dragon age 1 that did good for a veryyyy long time due to very positive reactions by fans.

This topic of course is silly! Just wanted to point out that people cant deny the damage the RAEG did to ME3 ( with good reason, screw the ending! But dear god all that lousy auto dialog, horrific side pick up quests and so forth /hiss)

The fan outcry didn't do squat to hurt ME3's sales, its sold over 4 million copies so far, infact its neck and neck with ME2 in total sales.

[Medhia Nox]

While an option to turn off the Voiced Protagonist is a dead horse I'd contribute beating - I won't say that I won't buy the game. I've got a perfectly functioning mental filter - their Voiced Protagonist is utterly wasted on me.

[bzombo]

Cribbian wrote...

Multiplayer that affects the singleplayer-campaign

This would be my only issue, really. It seem sthey've learnde from DA2 not to get so out of control with arcade style action. Hopefully, mp doesn't screw up the single player game.

[mopotter]

henrikjuell wrote...

I have no "demands" for DA:I, I'll just keep reading the forums and will make up my mind about a purchase after I see some more information about the actual game.

And a voiced PC doesn't bother me, but I do hope that they improve the dialogue wheel.

Pretty much this.  I won't pre-order it, but if it's as enjoyable as DA:O and DA2 becuase I enjoyed them both, then I'll buy it.  I also don't mind the voiced PC, in fact I liked both Shepard and Hawke's voice so hopefully I'll like this one too.

[mopotter]

philosopher09 wrote...

Speechless Warden was the dullest character I ever played in a BioWare game.
@Ukki: Do you even own ME3? It is a fine game, certainly a lot better than ME2 or DA2, even if the ending could still be better.

I own every game listed on my signature, which includes ME3 and Ukki is correct.  It's the only reason I'm not pre-ordering DA3 or ME4.  

ME3 could have been better than all of them,l but is was not.  It was fun to play twice, not the 142-30 times I played all of the others.    

Edit - for me.  I know there are others who feel differently, but for me ME3 dispointed to the point of no trust for at least a few future games and then I'll see how it goes.

Modifié par mopotter, 24 décembre 2012 - 11:34 .

[mopotter]

In Exile wrote...

Bob Garbage wrote...

If Bioware could show a little discretion with the voiced PC, I wont mind. Think ME1 rather than ME3/DA2. Unfortuately, that probably wont be the case.

You mean three dialogue options that are actually identical, and have your PC say the same thing no matter what you pick? 

Really hope they do not do this.  It was very irritating.  A large part of my fun is checking out other dialogue options, when they are all the same it's really disappointing.  

[mopotter]

Jonata wrote...

DuskWarden wrote...

DA2 didn't come close to 5 million.

The reason people make the "or I won't buy it argument" is that at the end of the day, all a consumer can do to show whether or not they like the direction a product is heading in is to buy or not buy that product. A single individual might not make much difference, but hundreds of thousands of individuals not buying the game (or even millions in this case) who bought the previous game but not this one, will be noticed by the people who matter.

I would believe you if "costumers" would just do that: I don't like it, I don't buy it. But people come here and for every single "unhappy costumer" there are hundreds of thousands of individual topics clogging the forum with whining, so I'm starting to believe that the "I won't buy it" argument is just yet another topic to insult BioWare, which is also the BSN national sport. 

PS: Mass Effect 3 is a very successfull game despite the outcry of the "fans" reached the stratosphere. So maybe this entitlement isn't as powerful as it seems. 

I bought ME3, pre-ordered and paid for.  I am pretty sure my purchase is included in the successfull game quote.  I will not be pre-ordering or 1st day purchasing DA3 or ME4.  That's when it will be interesting to see how the sales go.

[d4eaming]

Xeranx wrote...

A voiced PC, for me, renders me unable to play a male character (that's on top of already poor character customization for male characters).

Looking at my avatar, I couldn't imagine the voice of male Hawke coming from him. It doesn't match his look. Female Hawke was no problem for me on the other hand. And this is not the first time I ran into this issue, but it was limited before to just battle cries. In DA:O I hated every single voice for male. Every single one was terrible and it was the same in Neverwinter Nights. All sounded too caucasian. Female side never gave me that kind of trouble.

Also, (this is loosely related to voice overs) the elf part totally made it impossible for me to play a male. Features were way to anglo and the voices there didn't help either. I'm figuring that DA3 is going to be more of the same. So if I buy the game, it'll be female only again for me.

I've deleted every female Shepard I've made because I dispise her VO. And I can't seem to make a female Shepard that doesn't look extraordinarily pissed off all the time. But I love my male Shepard, his voice fits his appearance perfectly. I can tolerate DA2's female VO but I still haven't gotten to act3 with one yet, but I've had about a dozen male Hawkes. I also find the female face options very unsatisfying, whereas I can make a plethora of nice, distinct male faces.

I find it amusing how people in general rail on the voiced character as if theirs is the only right opinion, ignoring that there are people who can't connect with a mute, expressionless manniquin such as from DAO.

I would probably still get it if it was unvoiced, but I would not be able to connect with an "own" the character if it's silent. Yes, I do consider Hawke and Shepard (and the Warden) "mine," not at all like I'm driving someone else's character, like was suggested by someone else. Hawke and Shepard are no less my creations than the Warden is, and at least now I can see them react to things, and hear the inflections in their voices.

Admittedly, it's not perfect, and sometimes I feel it could have used a little more oomph behind it, and the wheel-to-dialogue isn't always exactly what I was expecting, but I accept that as a trade-off to have a character that isn't made out of plastic, and I enjoy it.

[Pelle6666]

As long as the voice actor is doing a good job and is provided with good lines, which was not the case in DA2. I hesitate to even bring it up but, if they could mach the Shepard- actors in ME, then I'd be more than happy.

[XX-Pyro]

Changed my mind. If the PC has an Orlesian accent consider me sitting this one out.

[Steppenwolf]

scyphozoa wrote...

Not sure why people make the "or I won't buy it" argument. No one cares about an individual sale, or even a few thousand sales. You're talking about a product that is expected to reach ~5 million different human beings on planet earth, and you think your one single unit is leverage?

Such narcissism.

Has any Bioware title ever sold 5 millions units? I know none of the Mass Effect games have and that's their most successful series iirc. So why would anyone be expecting DA3 to be their best selling game ever by almost a million more units than the most successful entry in the Mass Effect series(ME2)? Origins' sales topped 4 million, but DA2 didn't even break 2 million. DA3 is make or break for the franchise and I guarantee no one at Bioware is expecting to top 5 million units. And no one at Bioware should be as willing as you to write off potential customers.

[The_11thDoctor]

OP might as well leave now... They're not going back. It'd be retarded.

As long as its a engaging and lengthy RPG that outshines its predecessors, Ill buy it.

[Steppenwolf]

aang001 wrote...

They're not going back. It'd be retarded.

Origins sold more than twice as many units as DA2. It makes less sense not to change back.

[d4eaming]

BasilKarlo wrote...

aang001 wrote...

They're not going back. It'd be retarded.

Origins sold more than twice as many units as DA2. It makes less sense not to change back.

You think a voiced protag is the reason DA2 didn't sell as much as DAO? That sounds silly. DA2 had a lot of flaws and was rushed. I seriously doubt a voiced protag is the sole reason it didn't sell as well.

ME has had a voiced protag all along and is very successful, so insinuating that using VA work will reduce sales of DA3 just seems incredibly naive.

[Steppenwolf]

d4eaming wrote...

BasilKarlo wrote...

aang001 wrote...

They're not going back. It'd be retarded.

Origins sold more than twice as many units as DA2. It makes less sense not to change back.

You think a voiced protag is the reason DA2 didn't sell as much as DAO? That sounds silly. DA2 had a lot of flaws and was rushed. I seriously doubt a voiced protag is the sole reason it didn't sell as well.

ME has had a voiced protag all along and is very successful, so insinuating that using VA work will reduce sales of DA3 just seems incredibly naive.

ME didn't start with a silent protagonist and then switch. And I think the success of Origins and relative failure of DA2 comes down to the sum of the parts.