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[Archonsg]

ME859 wrote...

Sanunes wrote...

I don't get the hate towards BioWare, they had a major blunder with all the information being handed out before the games launch in interviews and Twitter type releases. Going back and playing their older games recently Jade Empire, Dragon Age: Origins, Mass Effect 1, I tried to play Knights of the Old Republic, but it didn't age well for me. They all have their own flaws that hurt the game, I think a lot of people are just looking for faults anymore and if those games were released now they would want to rip BioWare apart for those games as well.

It shouldn't really be hate but rather agnoizing frustration.  Obviously it started when their pre release promises did not match up at all with what we were given.  On top of that people have consistently begged and pleaed for Bioware to give us an alternate ending even if we have to pay for it.  Bioware at least officially has refused.  

There were also comments like this after the initial rage toward the ending.

Hudson went on to promise fans single-player DLC, and that fan feedback will shape its content: "We have some really great multiplayer content and some really great single-player content coming over the air, (fan) feedback will become part of how we design that."

If Omega for example was designed with fan feedback it makes me wonder who they were listening to.Less story and more mindless shooting with a higher price tag?  

Either way the point is the main thing fans have requested is some sort of alternate ending with a chance to choose between a Shepard lives happily ever after and a Reapers win scenario.  Yet at least according to Bioware it isn't goign to hapeen.  They do this while telling us they value fan feedback.  

I'm sorry but to restore confidence in their brand and get Mass Effect to continue towards the trajectory it was heading before the release of ME3 they have to revisit the ending.  Sure there are people who genuinely like the current ending but a lot more are at best indifferent towards the EC.  

In the end though the thing is not only do fans need a Mass Effect with a satisfying conclusion but the video game industry needs a truly succesful Mass Effect 3 otherwise it will continue the trend of mindless and uninspired titles 

Key name there, " Casey Hudson".
The same guy who told us "There will not be an A, B, C, ending..." then promised a number of things that will take fan feedback into consideration but never once have I seen any interaction between him or fans, just tweets responses to his followers, so why would anyone believe what he says?

If anything, the moment you see "Casey Hudson" being involved, it should raise a warning flag and have your "skeptics glasses" put on.

[Archonsg]

john_sheparrd wrote...

I really hope that's the case but if not I always have my headcanon !

If you are PC, there's MEHEM.

[RocketManSR2]

res27772 wrote...

Fnork wrote...

xsdob wrote...
unreal expectations

I'll just leave this here

People might have been responsible for letting their own expectations soar but BW sure as heck fed the frenzy

Thanks for reminding me of those blatant lies... it's rekindled those burning embers of anger.

Same here, grrrrrrrrrr...

[dsl08002]

RocketManSR2 wrote...

res27772 wrote...

Fnork wrote...

xsdob wrote...
unreal expectations

I'll just leave this here

People might have been responsible for letting their own expectations soar but BW sure as heck fed the frenzy

Thanks for reminding me of those blatant lies... it's rekindled those burning embers of anger.

Same here, grrrrrrrrrr...

“[The presence of the Rachni] has huge consequences in Mass
Effect 3. Even just in the final battle with the Reapers.”

This is what truly makes me angry considering that it was just a lie

Modifié par dsl08002, 24 décembre 2012 - 10:12 .

[ElSuperGecko]

Harbinger: WE HAVE RETURNED.

Harbinger is either ME3's great missed opportunity, or Bioware's secret ace in the hole.

Talked about with the ending, with the Leviathan, but almost totally absent from the game... I can easily see Harby and his Collector avatars making an appearance before all is said and done. And any revelations they bring with them could be game-changing.

[RocketManSR2]

dsl08002 wrote...

“[The presence of the Rachni] has huge consequences in Mass
Effect 3. Even just in the final battle with the Reapers.”

This is what truly makes me angry considering that it was just a lie

lol I must have missed the part of the Earth mission where a swarm of rachni led by the queen helped me defend the missile trucks.

- However, it's things like that that get me thinking they did have big plans, but.......*looks at dead horse* I can't do it.

Modifié par RocketManSR2, 24 décembre 2012 - 11:13 .

[Archonsg]

Anything involving Harbinger with a larger role = retcon perhaps as far back as Thessia.
So, this will be extremely unlikely.

Citadel Rescue by Shepard and Crew = Definite retcon, ideally as far back as Thessia but definitely for Priority Earth. Rendering that whole charge the beam nonsense and in association, starbrat and everything coming after that, invalid.
Want this, but us it going to happen? Will Bioware say "Yeah, we messed up, here's the fix."?
No.

Not unless Bioware changed its tune.
To which, coming almost a year after the whole debacle started might be too late to save the series.
Don't get me wrong.
If this "final" DLC, gives me what MEHEM does, not only will I buy it, I'll be purchasing Leviathan and Omega as well, but from my perspective and those "new" to the series perhaps due to receiving the ME trilogy as a Christmas gift can't help but feel that in order for them to have the "real complete" game, they will have to buy a DLC.

No matter what Bioware does at this point the stigma of the ending of ME3 will haunt them.

[Dr_Extrem]

Archonsg wrote...

If this "final" DLC, gives me what MEHEM does, not only will I buy it, I'll be purchasing Leviathan and Omega as well, but from my perspective and those "new" to the series perhaps due to receiving the ME trilogy as a Christmas gift can't help but feel that in order for them to have the "real complete" game, they will have to buy a DLC.

No matter what Bioware does at this point the stigma of the ending of ME3 will haunt them.

i feel the same way.

but bioware could gather strenght from the ending debacle. even if the endings will haunt them, by showing the community, that the community counts, they will regain a lot of respect.

bad examples are not a waste of space - you learn from them, gow to make it better next time.

[Archonsg]

Dr_Extrem wrote...

Archonsg wrote...

If this "final" DLC, gives me what MEHEM does, not only will I buy it, I'll be purchasing Leviathan and Omega as well, but from my perspective and those "new" to the series perhaps due to receiving the ME trilogy as a Christmas gift can't help but feel that in order for them to have the "real complete" game, they will have to buy a DLC.

No matter what Bioware does at this point the stigma of the ending of ME3 will haunt them.

i feel the same way.

but bioware could gather strenght from the ending debacle. even if the endings will haunt them, by showing the community, that the community counts, they will regain a lot of respect.

bad examples are not a waste of space - you learn from them, gow to make it better next time.

heh..
All I want for Christmast is ;





Minus the Helmet and a fully animated face for Tali of course.

But ... yeah, there's always MEHEM and head canon.

[Jadebaby]

Tali-vas-normandy wrote...

I hope we wont be dissopointed OP

[Mathias]

AlanC9 wrote...

Mdoggy1214 wrote...

11-13k units sold worldwide in a few weeks is not good. No matter how you try to slice it.

Welll, yeah. But like I asked, where was a good number going to come from? How many WiiU users are there who are interested enough in an RPG-shooter to play ME3 but who haven't already played ME3 on another platform?

Are there a lot of WiiU users who don't have an alternative console or a gaming PC?

That's a fair question, and honestly I don't know why they thought it'd be worthwhile for them to port it to the Wii U. Regardless, most games make the majority of their sales within the first month of it's release. I imagine the sales department got butterflies in their stomach once they saw the sales figures for the Wii U version.

[StElmo]

Rifneno wrote...

Linkforlife wrote...

Brovikk Rasputin wrote...

"Nope, we're done with the endings. And I'm done repeatedly saying we're done with them. Moving on."
"Nope, we're done with the endings. And I'm done repeatedly saying we're done with them. Moving on."
"Nope, we're done with the endings. And I'm done repeatedly saying we're done with them. Moving on."
"Nope, we're done with the endings. And I'm done repeatedly saying we're done with them. Moving on."

They. Are. Done. With. The. Endings. Move.. on...... *rocks back and forth*

Isn't that what Chris Priestly said in his tweet?

Here is a list of DLCs that Priestly told us weren't going to happen.

Why would I believe Chris Priestly? He is a community manager, and BioWare has not exactly the best track record with revealing what really is going to happen.

[Jadebaby]

Yeah, quoting Priestly isn't exactly the most solid evidence, that being said.. That's the funniest post I've ever seen Brovik make..

Oh, except for that one about him not being able to get really low EMS to get a bad ending, that was hilarious too XD

[Mathias]

Jade8aby88 wrote...

Yeah, quoting Priestly isn't exactly the most solid evidence, that being said.. That's the funniest post I've ever seen Brovik make..

Oh, except for that one about him not being able to get really low EMS to get a bad ending, that was hilarious too XD

Really? I seem to recall getting really low EMS and getting a bad ending when doing test runs for MEHEM. But hey, Brovik knows all right?

Modifié par Mdoggy1214, 24 décembre 2012 - 02:09 .

[Jaison1986]

Can we have at least an trailer? That way we will know if our hopes are crushed or not.

[Dr_Extrem]

Jaison1986 wrote...

Can we have at least an trailer? That way we will know if our hopes are crushed or not.

i dint need a trailer to know, that our hope will be crushed again ..

next dlc: shepard shoots cerberus mooks for additional 500 war assets .. 500 useless assets i might add.

and we get a new temporary squadmate, that is killed at the end - while listening to sams sad tunes.

[garrusfan1]

Mdoggy were you serious about EA getting removed from Nasdaq cause if so they might make it cause the surge of money is something they need.

[clarkusdarkus]

Dr_Extrem wrote...

Jaison1986 wrote...

Can we have at least an trailer? That way we will know if our hopes are crushed or not.

i dint need a trailer to know, that our hope will be crushed again ..

next dlc: shepard shoots cerberus mooks for additional 500 war assets .. 500 useless assets i might add.

and we get a new temporary squadmate, that is killed at the end - while listening to sams sad tunes.

Buy our dlc to further the legend that is shepard.................pre-ending not post ending,1200mp, 2hrs30mins,pew pew and alot more threads on here about missed oppurtunites and how that was the last straw......they're dlc is a continued trend of substandard gaming DA2/ME3/TOR...leviathan/omega are hardly enticing and this will be no different and words like " tears,all the writers on board" are build up quotes used pre-release of which surely people have learned from that. Post ending DLC they are so fixated on not making is what would make me buy ME3 again and all the dlc and actually would make me do that 2nd playthrough of ME3.............but i feel another youtube video will get another hit.

[Twilight_Princess]

It would be silly to put all my hopes on this DLC...and yet...

[Jadebaby]

Mdoggy1214 wrote...

Jade8aby88 wrote...

Yeah, quoting Priestly isn't exactly the most solid evidence, that being said.. That's the funniest post I've ever seen Brovik make..

Oh, except for that one about him not being able to get really low EMS to get a bad ending, that was hilarious too XD

Really? I seem to recall getting really low EMS and getting a bad ending when doing test runs for MEHEM. But hey, Brovik knows all right?

It was because he played a lot of MP. As soon as he started the game he already had like 4000EMS.

[StElmo]

garrusfan1 wrote...

Mdoggy were you serious about EA getting removed from Nasdaq cause if so they might make it cause the surge of money is something they need.

EA did NOT get delisted, that would be huge news.

Edit:

HOLY CRAP! They got removed from the Nasdaq 100, which I suppose is a big deal?

Doesn't mean a full delisting though, lol, just the top 100 companies.

Modifié par StElmo, 24 décembre 2012 - 02:46 .

[Archonsg]

Jade8aby88 wrote...

Mdoggy1214 wrote...

Jade8aby88 wrote...

Yeah, quoting Priestly isn't exactly the most solid evidence, that being said.. That's the funniest post I've ever seen Brovik make..

Oh, except for that one about him not being able to get really low EMS to get a bad ending, that was hilarious too XD

Really? I seem to recall getting really low EMS and getting a bad ending when doing test runs for MEHEM. But hey, Brovik knows all right?

It was because he played a lot of MP. As soon as he started the game he already had like 4000EMS.

Tying MP to SP for EMS was a blatant and retarded move to get people to play MP.
Do remember that prior to the EC, with your galactic readiness at 50% there was no way to get 4200 ems or more without at least a few MP games.

And then, there's the flip side for people like me who played the hell out of MP. I come into the game with more than 20,000, (that's right, more than twenty thousand) EMS from the MP asset alone. Which makes the whole "get more war assets / ems points" from DLCs very very much worthless to me.

And if the story or DLC doesn't effect how ME3 is going to end, that is, I still have to take suicide instructions from the Starbrat, why bother to buy or play the DLC?

Modifié par Archonsg, 24 décembre 2012 - 02:49 .

[Dysjong]

I don't believe the next will have anything to do with the ending.
they have stated it so many times and what good would come out of it anyway? Nothing but a big uproar because it wouldnt help it. Each one of us has our own opinion on how they should alter the ending, that it would lead to a major disappointment.

If you start hyping about it, commit your time to hype it more, that the next DLC is going to affect the ending, then you gotta grow a pair and accept the frustations you caused, based on the hype yourself made.