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umadcommander wrote...

synthesis is the least popular ending for a reason


Which is exactly why I find it so odd that that's your "new" option, with a higher EMS. 

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this again?

I'm not like synthesis either but I don't think it's an abomination...

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OperatingWookie wrote...

umadcommander wrote...

synthesis is the least popular ending for a reason


People are uncreative and seek to restore the oppressive galactic governments to power by eliminating the only available catalyst of change that could be used for the best?


no, its what the reapers heve been trying to achieve

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OperatingWookie wrote...

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Rifneo you can't deny the synthesis EC slides show a positive future.


That they do, but try telling that to the ITers.


I'd try explaining the symbolism, but that never worked before. Most of you guys probably think the moral to Moby Dick was that whales are evil.

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d-boy15 wrote...

this again?

I'm not like synthesis either but I don't think it's an abomination...


It's an abomination, because it strips away everything that makes us human/<other races here>.

Modifié par ziloe, 23 décembre 2012 - 05:48 .


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What I don't get is, at what point did EDI become alive to even die in the Green Ending?

She was just a VI running on the EVA client. She was still on the Normandy.

Oh man, I'm getting off topic.

Green Ending = Catalyst scared that Shepard actually would destroy the reapers. Butters up Shep to think that this is ideal so that they don't die. Lesser of two evils, better than controlled which is better than being destroyed.

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yeah you are right !
**** synthesis

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ziloe wrote...

d-boy15 wrote...

this again?

I'm not like synthesis either but I don't think it's an abomination...


It's an abomination, because it strips away everything that makes us human/<other races here>.


No, it doesn't. Everything is still its own self.

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ziloe wrote...

umadcommander wrote...

synthesis is the least popular ending for a reason


Which is exactly why I find it so odd that that's your "new" option, with a higher EMS. 


shepard lives destroy requires the highest EMS, if you were rating endings on how hard they were to achieve that would be the best

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Rifneno wrote...

OperatingWookie wrote...

Steelcan wrote...

Rifneo you can't deny the synthesis EC slides show a positive future.


That they do, but try telling that to the ITers.


I'd try explaining the symbolism, but that never worked before. Most of you guys probably think the moral to Moby Dick was that whales are evil.


People like you think there's deep meaning to the way cerberus troops say "taking casualties".Image IPB

Modifié par OperatingWookie, 23 décembre 2012 - 05:51 .


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I'm out, to all ITers, sometimes a river is just a river, no deeper meaning

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Steelcan wrote...

I'm out, to all ITers, sometimes a river is just a river, no deeper meaning


Cool story, bro!

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111987 wrote...

Synthesis does not remove diversity. Krogan are still Krogan, Asari are still Asari, etc.

We built the Crucible, thus we earned it. As the Catalyst says, Synthesis is not something to be forced. We were ready for it.


In what way is the galaxy ready? 

Building the Crucible equated to hiding in a remote system and building a massive machine without understanding it based on the instructions left behind by the Protheans. 

This cycle did nothing special. 

Modifié par The Night Mammoth, 23 décembre 2012 - 05:54 .


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Isn't that "Sometimes, a cigar is just a cigar."

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OperatingWookie wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

OperatingWookie wrote...

Steelcan wrote...

Rifneo you can't deny the synthesis EC slides show a positive future.


That they do, but try telling that to the ITers.


I'd try explaining the symbolism, but that never worked before. Most of you guys probably think the moral to Moby Dick was that whales are evil.


People like you think there's deep meaning to the way cerberus troops say "taking casualties".Image IPB


People like you think...  who am I kidding?  You don't think.

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Rifneno wrote...

Steelcan wrote...

I'm out, to all ITers, sometimes a river is just a river, no deeper meaning


Cool story, bro!


Last man standing,

Synthesis is to education as destroy is to ignorance. Image IPB

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OperatingWookie wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

Steelcan wrote...

I'm out, to all ITers, sometimes a river is just a river, no deeper meaning


Cool story, bro!


Last man standing,

Synthesis is to education as destroy is to ignorance. Image IPB


Last man standing isn't the derp who jumped into a magic beam because a ghost told him to.

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The Night Mammoth wrote...

111987 wrote...

Synthesis does not remove diversity. Krogan are still Krogan, Asari are still Asari, etc.

We built the Crucible, thus we earned it. As the Catalyst says, Synthesis is not something to be forced. We were ready for it.


In what way is the galaxy ready? 

Building the Crucible equated to hiding in a remote system and building a massive machine without understanding it based on the instructions left behind by the Protheans. 

This cycle did nothing special. 


This cycle actually completed it. No-one else has. And they united the entire galaxy (or at least enough of it) to reach the Citadel, something no-one else has done.

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111987 wrote...

ziloe wrote...

d-boy15 wrote...

this again?

I'm not like synthesis either but I don't think it's an abomination...


It's an abomination, because it strips away everything that makes us human/<other races here>.


No, it doesn't. Everything is still its own self.


Incorrect. Everybody is at their peak of perfection. There is no further evolution, and there is no strive for a better existence. Essentially, there is no longer a need for society as a whole, because you're capable of doing it all on your own. And most importantly, power was given to the hands of children, who don't understand its responsibility and therefore, another war is inevitable.

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Rifneno wrote...

OperatingWookie wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

Steelcan wrote...

I'm out, to all ITers, sometimes a river is just a river, no deeper meaning


Cool story, bro!


Last man standing,

Synthesis is to education as destroy is to ignorance. Image IPB


Last man standing isn't the derp who jumped into a magic beam because a ghost told him to.



I was referring to the last person in the thread arguing that Synthesis is a legitimate choice.


The idea is that all choices are legitimate, and that the Catalyst is asking for your help, an organic, because it lacks the proper ability to make a decision.

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OperatingWookie wrote...

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OP didn't ask for this



I take it he's against the entire theme of transhumanism that existed in Mass Effect 2.

Synthesis is not transhumanism. Remember "synthesized" leaves? Trees are not Human,to my knowledge.
Synthesis is forced transorganiclife.  

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ziloe wrote...

111987 wrote...

ziloe wrote...

d-boy15 wrote...

this again?

I'm not like synthesis either but I don't think it's an abomination...


It's an abomination, because it strips away everything that makes us human/<other races here>.


No, it doesn't. Everything is still its own self.


Incorrect. Everybody is at their peak of perfection. There is no further evolution, and there is no strive for a better existence. Essentially, there is no longer a need for society as a whole, because you're capable of doing it all on your own. And most importantly, power was given to the hands of children, who don't understand its responsibility and therefore, another war is inevitable.


This seems relevant.  But the epilogue slides don't show negative stuff, so it must be all great!

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Rifneno wrote...

ziloe wrote...

111987 wrote...

ziloe wrote...

d-boy15 wrote...

this again?

I'm not like synthesis either but I don't think it's an abomination...


It's an abomination, because it strips away everything that makes us human/<other races here>.


No, it doesn't. Everything is still its own self.


Incorrect. Everybody is at their peak of perfection. There is no further evolution, and there is no strive for a better existence. Essentially, there is no longer a need for society as a whole, because you're capable of doing it all on your own. And most importantly, power was given to the hands of children, who don't understand its responsibility and therefore, another war is inevitable.


This seems relevant.  But the epilogue slides don't show negative stuff, so it must be all great!



SO, the words of someone you made a mistake are to be regarded as truth.

Huskification is not synthesis.

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111987 wrote...

ziloe wrote...

d-boy15 wrote...

this again?

I'm not like synthesis either but I don't think it's an abomination...


It's an abomination, because it strips away everything that makes us human/<other races here>.


No, it doesn't. Everything is still its own self.

No they are not. 

DNA changed: check
Change form organic form of life to a new form of life: check

Everyone is no longer its own self, but alive.