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#351
LadyDrusilla

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...I want to hug you 'til you bleed. Huzzah for engrossing stories!

That is all.

/hug

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Maria Caliban

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Chaser01 wrote...

When will the release for return to ostagar be?


Second star to the right, straight on until morning.

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LadyDrusilla wrote...

...I want to hug you 'til you bleed. Huzzah for engrossing stories!

That is all.

/hug


HAHA!! You're Shale in disguise!! Don't squish the writers till they bleed, it will make a mess, and then we also lose good scripts for all the next games!

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Hellebore5000

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Since KOTOR for me Gaider is great!

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DragonRageGT

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LOL... some writers are mean!!!! And I keep bumping into things I've not seen before, even after 500+ hours into the game!

Dragon Age - The Cookie is a Lie (or) Like stealing cookie from a child! Image IPB (after processing is done)

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GUD RITING

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Lucy Glitter

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It is very difficult to make someone love or hate a character so intensely, especially in a game, of all things! Thanks for continually making me go, "wow!" at the all the wonderful aspects of the writing that went into the game. There were especially just a few times I felt this great sense of awe. My socks were blown off quite a few times. 

Thank you, Dragon Age team! I love you guys so much!<3

(my spelling sucks)

Modifié par Lucy_Glitter, 10 janvier 2010 - 07:16 .


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Ginasue

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Lucy I have always said I can't spell my way out of a paper bag. See I'm tone deaf,and tougue tied and so I can't sound out words.Why I also can't learn any other languages  My friends have always understood this, so when I type something, and spell it wrong they just tell me they can read code.

Modifié par Ginasue, 10 janvier 2010 - 07:26 .


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Mr. Gaider, if I'm not totally mistaken, you were the one who wrote the Dalish? I really liked the origin, since in that you were able to resist being taken to Grey Wardens. Duncan used the Right of Conscription and said something like "I will drag you away kicking and screaming all the way to Ostagar..." Was a really well written conversation for roleplaying purposes. Thank you for that. :)

Anyway, I would like to ask if we're going to get more information about the Dalish in the future? The lore that is in the game is very interesting and the Dalish are my favourite race/faction/group/thing.


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LukeDodds94

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hello everyone

iv contact alot of people on here, including David himself, asking for help and advice on how to get into the same kind of business he is.

Game writing :)

does anyone know anything that could help?

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AmstradHero

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From various sources, the short answer is: Work hard.



Show your stuff in various mod projects. Sign up to help out with projects if you can't get people to help you out with a project of your own. Help out writing dialogue, character descriptions, quest plot lines, journal entries... basically just keep creating content to showcase your writing skills.



If you want to focus exclusively on writing, you'll likely need to sign up to help other people's projects, as the process of module production is very time consuming, and unless you can script, a very difficult process. Basically, commit yourself to projects that you know have modders that will get things finished - you need to be able to show a finished product if you want to get a job.

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LukeDodds94

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Also, Perhaps if anyone wants any help with projects of thier own or a groups then please let me know.



it would be greatley appreciated so i can get more experienced and build up a name for myself.

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I have to take my hat off to those who worked on the Dwarven Noble storyline, especially from the female side of things. The patterning, oh the patterning!



Firstly, the touch of Gorim possibly being your lover. It adds a completely different focus for Lady Aeducan; be reuinited with her seocnd and her love, and then return to retake Orzammar. And then you find him, and things don't work out that way. What do you do then? Find a new focus. Work with your new second, Alistair. And very probably fall in love with him, all over again. But is it true, or is it simply a replacement? And, through losing Gorim, does that make you more determined to hold on to Alistair, or more afraid?



With all the other playthroughs I've done, especially in the case of the Male Human noble (I'll get to that later), I've found that when you get back to your home point, you have a fairly simple choice ahead of you; fight for your people, or go against them. Not so on return to Orzammar. There is a real battle here, one between your own personal vendetta and the good of your people, and it is so hard to know what is the right choice at the time. My girl went with getting her vengence and honouring a promise... but at a horrible cost that still haunts me. It made choices leading up to the landsmeet even harder, especially with the person vendetta Alistair has. So there they stood, both leaders of their own races, both with responsibilities to uphold... and both as lost as each other.



The ending... well, she made her choice. I can't say what here. But I felt that over that storyline my character had grown into almost another person... and was grateful that in-game she could acknoledge that too. It was, a truly epic story, and one that will stay with me as one of the most touching I have experienced over all genres.





And as I said, going back to human noble... I was stunned at what a different game that turned out to be. Because of Couslands feelings of inadequecy next to his older brother, Alistair became not an ally... but competition. My Mr Cousland was driven by vengeance and want for power, and things... well, things went down a very different path for all of Ferelden. It's a real credit to the game that things can be so very different that it almost feels like a whole other experience.

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Thank you DA:O Writers for making this such a great game to play.  My husband says I'm "Obsessed" with it, and in fact, I am!  I love the options for characters as well as decisions that make it so fun to see what happens next.  I can't tell you how many times I have played the game through, always as female noble warrior, but now I've done a Dalish Elf Female Warrior and allowed her to die at end.  Brought me almost to tears. 

Keep up the great work at BioWare!  I know I look forward to whatever you have coming out next in the RPG playing genre.<3

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While there are still parts of the writing in BG or KotOR that I prefer over Dragon Age, I must say that the writer's have created the best NPC banter I have ever had the pleasure to hear in a game. Further, the writing and voice acting for these characters has done a remarkable job in getting me emotionally involved with the characters. Dragon Age: Origins has set a new bar here. To all the writers, a big thank you!

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To Mr. Gaider: So, I google-stalked you and couldn't find the answer to my question. What kind of post-secondary education did you go for, if any? Also, did you always want to be a writer? And how are you enjoying your winter wonderland? We haven't seen one snowflake in Nanaimo yet, just some rain and above 0 temperatures. B)

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The interactions with NPC/World were well handled I'll give you that. Some more unpredictability would go a LONG way in this department.

The story leaves much to be desired, needs more "wow", the story was a bit bland and straight forward.

Good job, lets take it to next level.

Modifié par MassEffect762, 10 janvier 2010 - 04:21 .


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Raoune wrote...

I have to take my hat off to those who worked on the Dwarven Noble storyline, especially from the female side of things. The patterning, oh the patterning!

Firstly, the touch of Gorim possibly being your lover. It adds a completely different focus for Lady Aeducan; be reuinited with her seocnd and her love, and then return to retake Orzammar. And then you find him, and things don't work out that way. What do you do then? Find a new focus. Work with your new second, Alistair. And very probably fall in love with him, all over again. But is it true, or is it simply a replacement? And, through losing Gorim, does that make you more determined to hold on to Alistair, or more afraid?

With all the other playthroughs I've done, especially in the case of the Male Human noble (I'll get to that later), I've found that when you get back to your home point, you have a fairly simple choice ahead of you; fight for your people, or go against them. Not so on return to Orzammar. There is a real battle here, one between your own personal vendetta and the good of your people, and it is so hard to know what is the right choice at the time. My girl went with getting her vengence and honouring a promise... but at a horrible cost that still haunts me. It made choices leading up to the landsmeet even harder, especially with the person vendetta Alistair has. So there they stood, both leaders of their own races, both with responsibilities to uphold... and both as lost as each other.


This... my favorite origin is the Dwarf Noble. And it's so true what you write here. I'm finally playing through that origin to the end and I'm completely torn. It's quite simply beautiful in its complexity and its ability to pull you in and make you -care-. It's like... from other playthroughs I know exactly where Gorim is, but I was all nervous about meeting up with him again with this character who knew him so well. And I swear, that encounter... was just so damn touching. 

It's moments like that one that make this game different. Even Loghain, who I'm fairly certain I hate more than any character in any story in the history of written word, has some seriously touching moments. 

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i also want to express my <3 for the writing in DA:O -- It is rare to find a game that both captivates and totally immerses you. By the end I really felt I *knew* my companions intimately and certain characters gave such a knee-jerk reaction it was pretty incredible. Alistair giving me a talk about duty and uncertain futures so soon after we started a relationship had me ticked off in RL too. lol Was very funny though. You know it is written well when you seriously sit and agonize over decisions in a game, and have real-life emotional responses to something of pure fiction. So, thanks for that -- the writing in this game is worth the price of the game alone.   

Modifié par shantisands, 10 janvier 2010 - 06:28 .


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Ginasue wrote...

Please don't feel bad about asking any question, the question you asked was a good one.   Your right in that I've not seen any of the NPC's at all being black, nor is there any Asian NPC's nor are any of the main characters Black or Asian.  I'm not sure why that happened, but I can see that for some people it could be upsetting to them.


Not sure it is any reason to really be upset.  It's a fantasy world with different races, species, etc.  I am not sure the intention was to mirror earth.  It's the same argument that I heard when Saving Private Ryan was released.  The Brits complained that it appeared that only the US was involved with D-Day based on no other nation potrayed in the film.  I didn't think it was a valid argument as the story was simply focused on US troops within the larger framework as the basis for the story.

Just some thoughts.

:)

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Yozaro wrote...
 I really liked the origin, since in that you were able to resist being taken to Grey Wardens. Duncan used the Right of Conscription and said something like "I will drag you away kicking and screaming all the way to Ostagar..." Was a really well written conversation for roleplaying purposes. Thank you for that. :)
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I completely agree! Whenever I get to that part of an origin (you can resist in the human noble origin, too) I get goose-bumps. :lol:
I can only second the statements of all the forumites here: Great writing! I hadn't realised just how much I longed for such an engrossing story and characters. Thanks to the whole team for their effort and great work. <3

(sorry for any mistakes, English is not my native language)

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Tassiaw wrote...
To Mr. Gaider: So, I google-stalked you and couldn't find the answer to my question. What kind of post-secondary education did you go for, if any? Also, did you always want to be a writer?

I never got the chance, actually. I was accepted at Carleton University's journalism program, and that was my original plan, but I couldn't get a student loan... and so I ended up working in the hotel industry. One of those "temporary" things to save up money which turned sort of permanent as I eventually became general manager of the hotel. If you can believe it, my goal at the time was to become a comic book artist-- though I always enjoyed writing and had even created some tabletop games of my own.

That's how I came to Bioware's attention, in fact. A friend of mine that was in one of my games worked with them, and when they were looking for more writers after BG1 he handed them the rulebook for one of the games I'd created (unbeknownst to me) and suggested they talk to me. So they did. I was curious, if dubious, and emailed some writing I'd done to James Ohlen... and he asked me to come in for an interview. I came, found the entire operation a bit "fly by night" and laughed at the idea that I would abandon my hotel management career for an admittedly-interesting position that was half the money and had no guarantee of security. I politely declined their offer of a writing job.

The day after, I went into my hotel on Monday and found my regional manager there. He informed me that the company which oversaw my hotel and several others had been bought out. As GM, I was given severance and walked out the door. This is not unusual for the hotel industry. So as I'm walking out the door with my box of stuff, I thought "gee, maybe I will try out that job". I emailed James Ohlen and asked if his offer was still good and it was. I was brought in to help with the writing work on the beginning of BG2 and it all clicked.

So... I wouldn't recommend that anyone try to follow my path into the industry. I sort of lucked out and fell backwards into it.

That said, there are definitely people working in the writing department who have degrees. Sheryl Chee has a degree in Philosophy, I believe, and if I'm not mistaken Rob Bartel has an English degree. There's more, but my thought is that having post-secondary education is great at filling out your general knowledge, if not exactly vital in getting a job. That simply requires effort and perseverence. The biggest thing I notice with many people who want to become game writers is that they figure it should come without effort. That they'll sit down on a conversation editor and be able to write the same as if they sat down to write a short story. It's a skill-set, and one that requires practice -- my practice came after I got hired, yes, but it doesn't happen like that any more. You need to keep trying.

That, of course, is directed at the fellow who asked about getting a job -- but I get asked that all the time so I thought I'd slip it in. Image IPB

And how are you enjoying your winter wonderland? We haven't seen one snowflake in Nanaimo yet, just some rain and above 0 temperatures.

Don't make me cut you.

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Wow David, now i envy you even more than before.

I have just finished the books and i am a bit curious, is there a possibility that we might get more books on DAO sometime in the future:innocent:? I am generally not such a big fan of game novels, but both are really good and i enjoyed them very much.

And many thanks to you and the others for still staying around. Sometimes this board is a real creepy place, with people insulting you writers and other BioWare employes and acting like they are rightfully entitled to get whatever they want from you.
My deepest respect to you and the others who are still around and share with the fans here.
I greatly appreciate you're still with us, thanks

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MoSa09 wrote...
I have just finished the books and i am a bit curious, is there a possibility that we might get more books on DAO sometime in the future:innocent:? I am generally not such a big fan of game novels, but both are really good and i enjoyed them very much.

I don't know. That's really up to the publisher more than me. There are some other writers at Bioware who are probably more talented than I am... maybe one of them would be willing to step up to the plate? It really depends.

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I just like the background and the whole world of DAO very much and i am looking forward to know more and more (kinda addictive).
I liked all what the different writers did, so if you or Sheryl or whoever might be probably writing the next book if there will be one,this is more than fine with me.