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[KainD]

We had Shepard and Hawke, both voiced, and we could name them, but they were never called by their name. I think it would be better if the FULL name was preset, because it would feel less akward to be called by your friends and companions by your first name and not your family name. 

I mean who cares if you do not name the char if the family name is set anyway, and your made up name is never used in the game, I mean you can dislike the family name too, but that doesn't change anything. 

Thoughts?

[Ianthia]

I thought about that as I was playing but... for me it would make things harder lol
Let me explain....
I play a LOT of different characters... so I have a lot of savegames. It makes it so much easier to know who is who in each save when they have different character names.
But you are right... kind of sad when they never get called anything but their last name

[CuriousArtemis]

A lot of people get called primarily by their last names. I knew a guy whose last name was Mackey so he was habitually called "Mack." I can't even remember his first name because I never used it.

And yeah, I differentiate all my Hawke's based on their personal names... Eirik, Nemanja, Kelly, etc.

[upsettingshorts]

I would be happy if they fixed the full name. Because I only care about choices the game actively acknowledges, and they don't acknowledge custom names.   Text games did, and those were objectively different, because of CHARNAME flags.  Voice acting can't do that, so custom names seem vestigal to me.

The only use I personally have for the custom name is differentiating save games, and referring to the character specifically with other people. But this could be accomplished with middle names just as easily, and with First/Last name fixed, the script could have the voice actors use those, or the title, or whatever, when they deem it appropriate.

I've never understood arguments that say he/she "doesn't look like a [name]" or that "[name] doesn't fit the character." In real life - Muhammed Ali like changes aside - your name is picked long before you even have a character.

But I acknowledge people are attached and fixing the name would seem like yet another needless restriction on agency, so I don't argue the issue too strongly.

Modifié par Upsettingshorts, 24 décembre 2012 - 07:38 .

[KainD]

I think you could still give a unique name to the savegame itself, it just wouldn't have to do anything with the char name.

[Wulfram]

Giving my characters different names helps me to think of them as actually different people. Which helps me play them as different people, allowing more diverse playthroughs on replays.

And, well, people who enjoy Fantasy fiction should be aware of the magic of Naming a thing, no?

(My names don't mean anything at all. I've been known to generate them by pressing keys and random and then tweaking until pronouncable)

Modifié par Wulfram, 24 décembre 2012 - 07:44 .

[Kevin Lynch]

I'm on the fence about this. It's frequently awkward to have absolutely no one in the game world mention the PC by their first name. It something I think they always have to work around when writing the dialogue and having a first name would make it easier to manage. On the other hand, I replay the game and like making the distinction between characters by name.

[Althix]

hmmm... only distinction i do is a gender(race)/class/specializtion.
Because there is always Warden, Hawke, Shepard, Nemeless One etc.

[bombspy]

I know some people who are just called by their last name. I don't see there any problem as long as it is a proper name like Hawke or Shepard.

[TUHD]

To be honest.... no.
It's part of playing an RPG, to be able to change stuff to your personal preference. And IMHO, being able to customize at least a part of the name is a big part of it....

[Bobrzy]

Frankly, i like it the way it is. It makes my saves easier to identify (X Hawke is a mage, but Y Hawke is a warrior), and... well, at least i can customize something other than looks. I know, it sounds weird, but giving guy/gal a fixed name would make me feel, like my hero is fixed from the beggining. Now at least i have an illusion he's not.

[NoForgiveness]

I dont mind being called Hawke... It becomes like a nickname. Shepard made sense since you were military. But I wouldn't care if they gave the character a first name. my main problem is if the random npcs call you by one thing like warden (even though you have a last name but whatever) but in da2 they say like lady Hawke or champion so.

[zambingo]

I don't want a full name as a preset. I don't mind being called by the character's surname or title.

[Rorschachinstein]

In the military, you call everyone by their last name.

[zambingo]

In Soviet Russia your last name calls you!

Afterthought:

In Par Vollen you are your name!

Modifié par zambingo, 24 décembre 2012 - 08:50 .

[Dr. Doctor]

Either that or you could just name your character Inquisitor.

[JerZey CJ]

KainD wrote...

We had Shepard and Hawke, both voiced, and we could name them, but they were never called by their name. I think it would be better if the FULL name was preset, because it would feel less akward to be called by your friends and companions by your first name and not your family name. 

I mean who cares if you do not name the char if the family name is set anyway, and your made up name is never used in the game, I mean you can dislike the family name too, but that doesn't change anything. 

Thoughts?

First it's "Oh so what if they're voiced?" now it's "Why not just have their entire name set?" what's next "Oh so what if we can't choose dialogue?"?

@Dr. Dpctor that's what I did with one of my Hawkes in DA2, I just named 'em Sera(or however it's spelled).

Modifié par JerZeyCJ2, 24 décembre 2012 - 09:00 .

[Navasha]

Not me. I dislike having a fixed first name. Why? Because I don't want NPCs calling me some name I don't care to be called.

What if the devs pick Robert, Margaret, Grizelda, or something that is either dull, mundane, odd sounding, the name of a former boyfriend/girlfriend of yours that you want to forget in RL? And all the characters call you that throughout the game.... talk about a serious downfall.

No, stick to some rather generic sounding 'nickname' surname.

[The Teyrn of Whatever]

I was fine with everyone referring to Hawke by his/her last name (or Shepard as Commander, Commander Shepard, or just Shepard, in the Mass Effect games). I didn't like Garrett or Marion as names for Hawke. I prefer to choose my own and have the character referred to either by family name, organizational affiliation, e.g. Warden, or by rank, e.g. Warden-Commander.

I'll be fine with the PC of DA3 being referred to as Inquisitor or whatever his/her rank within that organization might turn out to be. Of course, if the plot finds the main character eventually at odds with the Inquisitors, that could get weird and would likely require that character to be referred to differently.

I wonder if the different background choices will come with different last names? That might make things a bit easier.

Modifié par The Teryn of Whatever, 25 décembre 2012 - 04:25 .

[Sir George Parr]

motomotogirl wrote...

A lot of people get called primarily by their last names. I knew a guy whose last name was Mackey so he was habitually called "Mack." I can't even remember his first name because I never used it.

And yeah, I differentiate all my Hawke's based on their personal names... Eirik, Nemanja, Kelly, etc.

This one place i worked the apprentice was called Tipper and after a year it was a real shock to hear someone call him by his real name, Dave. 
Sometimes i think that a fixed first name would make conversations with npcs more personal and in certain moment s more intimate,So as i always pick Isabela as Lady Hawke's Li it would have being sweet to hear Isabela call her Marian. Just as another way of showing how the protagonists relationship has changed with a particular character. But right now the current format is good enough. 

[Blackrising]

I never really acknowledge my PC's first names...in fact, I can't even remember the first names of my canon!Warden and canon!Hawke. (My Warden was named something with A..I think...and my Hawke was named...Leah...I think? Or at least one of them was...maybe.)

Point is, I don't particularly care what they are named, so a fixed name would be nice if it meant my friends seem like they actually KNOW my first name. Then again, I'm very picky. I hated the name Marian. Can't tell you why.
But I also managed to play through the game once with my PC being named 'Pórhildr' (courtesy of my oh so creative little brother), so...I don't think there's anything left that could shock me.

[CuriousArtemis]

Oh, also want to point out that it worked fine in DA2, with "Hawke" and later "Champion."

But in DA:O, people would say, "Greetings, Warden" ... and Alistair is standing right beside me. And they'd talk like my PC was the only Warden there. Which was awkward lol

I think in DA:O I would have preferred it if my Warden were called Mahariel by others ... "Warden" is so weird and impersonal, so when Zevran says "My dear Warden" for the fifteenth time I just want to smack him and scream, "SAY MY NAME, B!TCH!"

[Medhia Nox]

Proper nouns are used far too conversationally in most video game RPGs.

My boss actually talks like Bioware games - and it's VERY awkward (and extremely grating).

Hey Don.
That's nice Don.
How are you Don?

Very few people walk around using proper nouns conversationally.

Unless you're a hostage negotiator or trying to talk someone off a ledge - an understood "you" is often fine.

Or other nouns like sir/miss - m'lord/m'lady - master/mistress - your eminence - your highness - professor - etc. etc. etc.

Bioware characters shouldn't have a first or last name.

Modifié par Medhia Nox, 24 décembre 2012 - 09:42 .

[forgotten gold]

Maybe, when creating our character, we get a list of 15 names or so and we choose one. Hearing others say the character's first name adds something special to it.

MORE IMPORTANTLY, they should let us choose different origins stories. That can add a lot to the story. that's what I really want to see.