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[DarthLaxian]

Nashimura wrote...

I wouldn't mind this, its not like you pick your name in real life right?

and that is ****ty (as explained in my last post concerning this ^^)

i would not mind choosing a new name for me - i can't though because i would have to pay a hefty sum of money for the "privilege" of choosing my own name (it's the same everywhere your parents make decisions for you and in the end you are stuck with those as long as you do not want to pay money to reverse/change some of them...like being a member of the catholic fate in germany...if you want to leave they want money from you and the courts even enforce that and they say that church is seperate from the state...such lies <_<)

so, still no!

use titles that you have (inquisitor, warden, teyrn, arl etc.), your last name if talking with people you know and if talking to a love interest, some form of name that conveys affection like darling or something (just not something really cheese, ok?)

greetings LAX

Modifié par DarthLaxian, 28 décembre 2012 - 02:44 .

[Fisto The Sexbot]

Kingroxas wrote...

Upsettingshorts wrote...
I would be happy if they fixed the full name. Because I only care about choices the game actively acknowledges, and they don't acknowledge custom names.

So you're not into roleplaying.

[Kidd]

Fisto The Sexbot wrote...

So you're not into roleplaying.

Let's not start labelling what is and isn't roleplaying to people since it means different things to different people. I may not agree with the angry trousers, but I can still see where he's coming from.

[LolaLei]

I'm fine with the protagonist being referred to by their title, Surname or nickname. In real life hardly anyone calls me by my first name anyway, so I don't see it as any different when playing BioWare games etc.

[BubbleDncr]

In my experience, its more common/normal for guys to call other guys by their surname than it is for girls to call others/be called by surnames. At least in a non-military setting.

Which is why everyone calling my femShep "Shepard" didn't bother me (except during romance scenes), but everyone calling my LadyHawke "Hawke" all the time felt weird.

[Iakus]

LolaLei wrote...

I'm fine with the protagonist being referred to by their title, Surname or nickname. In real life hardly anyone calls me by my first name anyway, so I don't see it as any different when playing BioWare games etc.

Same.  My real name is for legal documents only.  Otherwise I go by a nickname 

[Ex-Paladin]

I LIKE giving my character a name, tyvm <_< I don't give a toots if they call her/him by their surname, a title, or whatever they use...

[upsettingshorts]

Fisto The Sexbot wrote...

Upsettingshorts wrote...
I would be happy if they fixed the full name. Because I only care about choices the game actively acknowledges, and they don't acknowledge custom names.

So you're not into roleplaying.

Good luck explaining how picking your character name is roleplaying.  If you're roleplaying anyone in that decision, you're roleplaying Bryce and Eleanor.

Not to mention, there's more than one way to roleplay, and yours isn't the only one.  So...

Modifié par Upsettingshorts, 28 décembre 2012 - 10:42 .

[DarthLaxian]

indeed - i have people call me LAX i would not want them to call me Tom (short for Thomas) it just is not what i chose for my name (it is the name my parents sattled my with)

greetings LAX

[upsettingshorts]

Does the game afford you an opportunity to correct people who call you Tom, and say you prefer LAX?  Does the game react to what you type in the name box? 

This is the essence of the 1st person v. 3rd person roleplaying divide:  Ambiguity versus reactivity.

Ambiguity:  If the game does not explicitly state or describe something, I am not likewise limited by this and can imagine whatever I want.

Reactivity:  If the game does not recognize or support my interpretation, it is a non-choice, and I do not care about it.

To put it simply, it's the difference between wanting a game to play in, and a game to play with.

Modifié par Upsettingshorts, 28 décembre 2012 - 10:43 .

[DarthLaxian]

no, the game - sadly - does not afford me that luxury ^^ (would be fun though, but as long as we need real people an pre-recorded soundfiles for a conversation in a computer-game, because - i do not really know why - all our wounderfull technology seems incapable of "reading" something we write (type into the name-box in this case) and then "voicing" it via a voice-processor (somehow our technology seems primitive this way...i hope they come up with something like this soon

greetings LAX
ps: this would also correct the need for having multiple speakers etc. if the computer would auto-generate a voice (a programme that could do something like that would probably be wort billions ATM and it would take ages to write and it would be mightily complicated (hell, i think my smallish attempts at programming with Java are "complicated" -.-))

[Amirit]

Again and again - they DID came up with the technology. Here: http://text-to-speec...translator.net/
Type anything you want, anything! It will read it in a voice of your choice.

I do not know how complicated the program is. But it does exist and does not require and actor to pronounce every word by himself.

Ok, there are emotions that probably difficult to implement for machine. Fine. Then I am with those who request a nick-name or first name. When LI calls Fem!Hawke "Hawke" in love scene - it's so wrong.

[Fiery Knight]

I approve of this.

[Sir George Parr]

Amirit wrote...

Again and again - they DID came up with the technology. Here: http://text-to-speec...translator.net/
Type anything you want, anything! It will read it in a voice of your choice.

I do not know how complicated the program is. But it does exist and does not require and actor to pronounce every word by himself.

Ok, there are emotions that probably difficult to implement for machine. Fine. Then I am with those who request a nick-name or first name. When LI calls Fem!Hawke "Hawke" in love scene - it's so wrong.

I picked up on this in an earlier post. It would have being more affecting to have had Isabela call Hawke by her first name Marian.Just the tiniest little detail to make you care about your LI in the story.Instead of Isabela being impersonal with her for the duration of the story.Same can be said for Leandra and which ever sibling makes the journey to Kirkwall. I think a simple thing like a fixed name could have provided an emotional connection to these characters, Just by making any conversation personal.As the games become more cinematic a fixed first name seems like it could a sensible evolution as the voiced protagonist was an evolution over the mute passive observer protagonist .Because for me all i get via giving my character a name is a means to identify save files and nothing more.Its something that could used to greater impact in the story than it is.In my part of the world you get a lot of strange looks from people and they would regard you as weird if you called them by their surname instead of their christian name.So Maybe more of a cultural thing.Unless it was written into the characters backstory, that they have a first name they are embarrassed and ashamed of like 'Inspector Morse' only then can you work around why the protagonist never makes use of their christian name.But i would think it best for dialogue making use of a first name to be solely used by the Li, otherwise it takes away the impact the first name could have in those special alone time moments with the Li.  

Modifié par XM-417, 29 décembre 2012 - 03:25 .

[CaptainBlackGold]

Hanz54321 wrote...

KainD wrote...

(original post)

Thoughts?

Thoughts?  I think you're picking knits.

Does that mean the argument in this thread is unravelling...:innocent:

("knit" vs "nit")

[Mykel54]

I always felt the custom name was a relic from the time of non voiced RPGs where you could choose practically everything about your character. In KotOR or Jade Empire, you chose a name yet it is never used, and somehow that has been kept in all later bioware games.

I say, if the protagonist is going to be predefined (you play this human, like hawke) then there is no point in having a custom name. In this case having a default name would bring more options for bioware to create rolepay, as other characters can address the protagonist in different ways.

[Quirkylilela]

They can already address you in different ways who says the first name has to be one of them. I don't want to be Manuel the rogue especially if people will be calling me it.

[DarthLaxian]

Amirit wrote...

Again and again - they DID came up with the technology. Here: http://text-to-speec...translator.net/
Type anything you want, anything! It will read it in a voice of your choice.

I do not know how complicated the program is. But it does exist and does not require and actor to pronounce every word by himself.

Ok, there are emotions that probably difficult to implement for machine. Fine. Then I am with those who request a nick-name or first name. When LI calls Fem!Hawke "Hawke" in love scene - it's so wrong.

that's what i meant - a computer can't (yet!) fake (as it does not have them) emotions really well and thus this does not matter here (unless you want to voice a robot like say a geth in Mass Effect (and even they get emotions in the end and show at least hints of having them - after all they are an evolving AI-Network!))

greetings LAX

[SeismicGravy]

I would imagine implementing something like that would be incredibly tough, especially since some players (like me) sometimes like to give our characters quirky names. For example, how would the NPC's cope knowing that your character's name is Sir Cumfrence McToenail?

[DarthLaxian]

your humour and quirkyness is beyond me (it is funny though - also if i would meet such a character in a Dragon Age like world, i would laugh so hard and never take him/her seriously)

greetings LAX
ps: if i would not know better i would suggest you are Tony DiNozzo from the NCIS-TV-SERIES (he likes to call a co-worker funny names that are right up this alley)

Modifié par DarthLaxian, 30 décembre 2012 - 05:25 .

[Fishy]

DarthLaxian wrote...

Nashimura wrote...

I wouldn't mind this, its not like you pick your name in real life right?

and that is ****ty (as explained in my last post concerning this ^^)

i would not mind choosing a new name for me - i can't though because i would have to pay a hefty sum of money for the "privilege" of choosing my own name (it's the same everywhere your parents make decisions for you and in the end you are stuck with those as long as you do not want to pay money to reverse/change some of them...like being a member of the catholic fate in germany...if you want to leave they want money from you and the courts even enforce that and they say that church is seperate from the state...such lies <_<)

so, still no!

use titles that you have (inquisitor, warden, teyrn, arl etc.), your last name if talking with people you know and if talking to a love interest, some form of name that conveys affection like darling or something (just not something really cheese, ok?)

greetings LAX

There many reason for this. First, because if you could change your name at will .. It's would become a nighmare for the state to keep track of everyone.

Secondo . .It's also a tradition of privilege for the people who created you. You're parents .. And your mom who had you in her belly for 10 month and who nurtured you and protected you. I love my name because it's was a gift from my parents. So my real name is very important to me and that the reason I would never change. I love my name not because it's an awesome name., but because it's my parents who gave it to me and the last thing I can do to honor them is to keep it.

Personnaly it's would hurt me if my kids changed the name I gave him.

Modifié par Suprez30, 30 décembre 2012 - 05:34 .

[New Display Name]

For the issue of differentiating between the player characters you create, that can be solved by creating a middle name for your character or simply by attaching a special name for the save files.

[Babaganoosh013]

Just use Jim Hughson's voice for any time the protagonists' first name is used. Chances are, it's already been recorded. For men anyways.

Gary Hawke scores!

It's in the game.