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[Addai]

Faerunner wrote...

Really? I've seen that scene a few times and I don't remember it mentioning Cailan. I guess it did. (Can't find it though because I no longer have DA:O installed and Youtube videos are more interested in showing Wardens being all over Dairren's nuts instead of actually posting intelligent conversations with him.)

Yes, he says some outside Highever Castle talk about the Cousland family and think Bryce should have been king instead of Cailan, and adds "it is just talk borne out of affection for your father."

It's true that having a royal family contributes to stability.  The comics that came out since the game also do reinforce the idea of the blood of Calenhad being "special."  Doesn't necessarily mean a Theirin is a good king, of course.

[Riverdaleswhiteflash]

Faerunner wrote...

It's true that having a royal family contributes to stability.  The comics that came out since the game also do reinforce the idea of the blood of Calenhad being "special."  Doesn't necessarily mean a Theirin is a good king, of course.

No, but the nobles believe it. By their logic, a Theirin would be a better option than a Cousland. I'm a little annoyed that the developers are running with this notion that blood makes some characters inherently more special than others (and of course the "special" blood just happens to be human noble blood like the Couslands, Amells, and Theirins), but it's their game.

Are they making that blood inherently special, or are they just making everyone with a title believe it is?

[Riverdaleswhiteflash]

Maybe the thing with Theirin blood is due to a seal made in the days of Calenhad? The fact that Malcolm Hawke was forced to use his blood for a seal is a plot point in one of the DLCs, iirc. Not because his blood was special, but because it's what was used.

Modifié par Riverdaleswhiteflash, 31 décembre 2012 - 12:28 .

[TEWR]

The Theirin bloodline has the blood of Dragons in it. Calenhad was an OGB, as he was born in the same year the Fourth Blight was ended by Garahel -- 5:20 Exalted or whatever the damn Age was titled.

That's what I've speculated for months now, and the Stenishok says point blank to Alistair that in his veins flows the blood of dragons.

So I know I'm right. 

Modifié par The Ethereal Writer Redux, 31 décembre 2012 - 12:51 .

[Riverdaleswhiteflash]

Were that the case, the Couslands would be descended from Andoral, since there's no way in hell the royal line would avoid crossing theirs. To a lesser extent, the same would probably be true of every noble family with an arling to its name, and probably a number of banns.

Loghain would not be one of them, unless he's descended from an unadknowledged bastard. (Though there would almost certainly be some.)

The problem with this is that Garahel is thought to have done the Ultimate Sacrifice, and that the Blight in question attacked Antiva and the Anderfels.

Edit: And of course this doesn't explain the Marcher Amells, either, but the Warden doesn't have to come from that family. In fact, the vast majority of Wardens ever rolled probably don't.

Modifié par Riverdaleswhiteflash, 31 décembre 2012 - 04:42 .

[TEWR]

Well, regarding Garahel, remember that his body was thrown all the way across the battlefield by Andoral's death throes.

So they may have only thought he had died as a result of the Archdemon's soul clash thingy, as opposed to it being due to him having been flung across an entire warzone and becoming a Riordan pancake.

Were that the case, the Couslands would be descended from Andorhal, since there's no way in hell the royal line would avoid crossing theirs

For some reason my mind is telling me the Couslands were claimed -- either by someone in-game or some other source -- to be distantly related to the Theirins.

[Addai]

Riverdaleswhiteflash wrote...

Were that the case, the Couslands would be descended from Andoral, since there's no way in hell the royal line would avoid crossing theirs.

Er, why?  The Couslands aren't royal blood.  And whatever the blood of Calenhad means, most people seem to have forgotten it, except Flemeth.

Oh gods.  I just realized this makes the idea that Flemeth raped Maric more likely.  *brain bleach*

[Addai]

The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...
For some reason my mind is telling me the Couslands were claimed -- either by someone in-game or some other source -- to be distantly related to the Theirins.

I don't recall this but there probably was some mixing at some point.

[Addai]

Faerunner wrote...
If it was just characters with a title, I wouldn't care. But with Gaider's comic revealing that Theirin blood has some special quality, the Couslands being treated as the most inherently amazing people since before Fereldan was formed just for being Couslands, the Human Mage and Hawke both coming from the same Amell family, every human protagonist we've had so far has come from a noble family (it's clear they have humans in mind when they write the stories, and humans are the only option in sequels), makes me wonder if the developers are going the "some blood is special" route.

Well the legend of Arthur is one of the influences.  But the thing is, in the DA world it would not necessarily be considered a good thing to be descended of dragons let alone be descended from an old god.  The Maker was supposed to have put the kabosh on them and so that would be pretty blasphemous, which is probably why they stopped talking about it.

[Riverdaleswhiteflash]

Addai67 wrote...

Riverdaleswhiteflash wrote...

Were that the case, the Couslands would be descended from Andoral, since there's no way in hell the royal line would avoid crossing theirs.

Er, why?  The Couslands aren't royal blood.  

They're one of the two families closest in rank to the crown. There's no way there wouldn't some intermarriage somewhere down the line.

[Addai]

Riverdaleswhiteflash wrote...

Addai67 wrote...

Riverdaleswhiteflash wrote...

Were that the case, the Couslands would be descended from Andoral, since there's no way in hell the royal line would avoid crossing theirs.

Er, why?  The Couslands aren't royal blood.  

They're one of the two families closest in rank to the crown. There's no way there wouldn't some intermarriage somewhere down the line.

Possible, but no one ever suggests this or claims it so there's no way to know.  In fact they say the opposite, that most of Maric's family was executed by the Orlesians.  But I recall Gaider also mentioning there was always the option of having some distant relative show up.

I just read the codex about Calenhad's disappearance- sounds like he's in whatever limbo our PCs get sucked into.  And maybe Maric as well.  I'm guessing at the end of the comic cycle we still won't know where Maric is or what exactly happened to him.

Modifié par Addai67, 31 décembre 2012 - 09:46 .