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[Titus Thongger]

Plerion wrote...

Titus Thongger wrote...

if you have such a problem with reload cancelling dont use it then.

for that matter you shouldnt
- use soft cover
- spawn nuke or control spawns
- run with the pizza
- heavy melee while switching a weapon / reviving for a quicker animation

because they're clearly all abusive exploits of the system

Funny because I don't actually do any of those things. I don't even know what you mean when you say "run with the pizza". 

it's when you tap the spacebar as you sprint with the package so you can run while rapidly picking up and dropping the package.

some call it abusive. the devs use it. according to them it's a 'clever use of gameplay mechanics'

[Cyonan]

It's unreasonable because you're saying that clearly it's lazy and poor design for no reason other than you personally do not like it.

Animation cancelling is not necessary to play the game, or even to do well at the game.

It is merely a way of rewarding people who experiment and learn the skill of timing a proper reload cancel.

If you really were on top of wanting to report people for anything that is cheating, you'd have taken the time to actually look up what cheating in this game is, and it's been mentioned that animation cancelling is not cheating.

Modifié par Cyonan, 26 décembre 2012 - 08:29 .

[Zero132132]

Is it essentially your position that any undocumented game mechanic is poor design?

Are you essentially opposed to spawn control as well?

[Arppis]

Cyonan wrote...

It's unreasonable because you're saying that clearly it's lazy and poor design for no reason other than you personally do not like it.

Animation cancelling is not necessary to play the game, or even to do well at the game.

It is merely a way of rewarding people who experiment and learn the skill of timing a proper reload cancel.

If you really were on top of wanting to report people for anything that is cheating, you'd have taken the time to actually look up what cheating in this game is, and it's been mentioned that animation cancelling is not cheating.

Imo it would be stupid to call it cheating. For sure.

But I hope they look into this in ME4.

[DullahansXMark]

darkpassenger2342 wrote...

DullahansXMark wrote...

Do you have anything good to say about this game? Do you even play this game? You spend way too much time whining about this game.

Go play this game. Or better yet, go play Gears.

because spawning and running to the nearest player to kamikaze shoot your sawed-off and then die by someone else's sawed-off only to respawn and repeat is Oh-so-fun.

I was being facetious, dummeh! lol

[Arppis]

DullahansXMark wrote...

darkpassenger2342 wrote...

DullahansXMark wrote...

Do you have anything good to say about this game? Do you even play this game? You spend way too much time whining about this game.

Go play this game. Or better yet, go play Gears.

because spawning and running to the nearest player to kamikaze shoot your sawed-off and then die by someone else's sawed-off only to respawn and repeat is Oh-so-fun.

I was being facetious, dummeh! lol

And you can always play Horde.

Lord_Sirian wrote...

Sorry, all I read was "WAAAAAAAAAAAH I
CAN'T RELOAD CANCEL PROPERLY CUZ IM ON FAILSTATION 3. NO FAIR BIOWER
((((((((((((((((((((((((((("

I can, I am über god it seems.

Modifié par Arppis, 26 décembre 2012 - 08:33 .

[darkpassenger2342]

DullahansXMark wrote...

darkpassenger2342 wrote...

DullahansXMark wrote...

Do you have anything good to say about this game? Do you even play this game? You spend way too much time whining about this game.

Go play this game. Or better yet, go play Gears.

because spawning and running to the nearest player to kamikaze shoot your sawed-off and then die by someone else's sawed-off only to respawn and repeat is Oh-so-fun.

I was being facetious, dummeh! lol

so was I!
i agree OP should play it, though.

 i loved horde mode but the pvp was dumb.

Modifié par darkpassenger2342, 26 décembre 2012 - 08:34 .

[sclera]

 The term "reload cancel" was invented by the community, it's the animation that's being canceled. Stop crying over absolutely nothing.

[Knockingbr4in]

Lord_Sirian wrote...

Sorry, all I read was "WAAAAAAAAAAAH I CAN'T RELOAD CANCEL PROPERLY CUZ IM ON FAILSTATION 3. NO FAIR BIOWER ((((((((((((((((((((((((((("

I take offense!1!!!1eleven, pc scrub, flame war begins

[hostaman]

It IS poor game design, and the fact thet it also exists in other games just shows how wide spread some poor practices are.

[Arppis]

sclera wrote...

 The term "reload cancel" was invented by the community, it's the animation that's being canceled. Stop crying over absolutely nothing.

Dunno why people miss the point like this.

[Arppis]

Lord_Sirian wrote...

Arppis wrote...

Lord_Sirian wrote...

Sorry, all I read was "WAAAAAAAAAAAH I
CAN'T RELOAD CANCEL PROPERLY CUZ IM ON FAILSTATION 3. NO FAIR BIOWER
((((((((((((((((((((((((((("

I can, I am über god it seems.

 

You can't do it as well as you can on PC.

Psh, I can do it when I want on consoles. Without rolling. And it's smooth as butter. It's part of my every reload nowdays.

Modifié par Arppis, 26 décembre 2012 - 08:44 .

[solidprice]

use the claymore less tc lol

and it was in cod/gow/kinda in me1(do stuff while ammo recharged =P)

so yeah....

[DullahansXMark]

darkpassenger2342 wrote...

DullahansXMark wrote...

darkpassenger2342 wrote...

because spawning and running to the nearest player to kamikaze shoot your sawed-off and then die by someone else's sawed-off only to respawn and repeat is Oh-so-fun.

I was being facetious, dummeh! lol

so was I!
i agree OP should play it, though.

 i loved horde mode but the pvp was dumb.

Dammit! Well done.

[DullahansXMark]

Lord_Sirian wrote...

Arppis wrote...

Lord_Sirian wrote...

Sorry, all I read was "WAAAAAAAAAAAH I
CAN'T RELOAD CANCEL PROPERLY CUZ IM ON FAILSTATION 3. NO FAIR BIOWER
((((((((((((((((((((((((((("

I can, I am über god it seems.

 

You can't do it as well as you can on PC.

It's not nearly as bad as you think. Granted, yes it is easier on PC, but it's not a god's power on consoles.

[Mahrac]

So you're compliants are that it's not as obvious as GoW, and the name?

The GoW method wouldn't work since there are no mags, you're just knocking a heat sink out. not exactly mini-game material. And it makes it both more challenging and rewarding to not have a metaphorical neon sign to tell you when to reload.

The name is fan-made not official. You could just try making a petition to change it if it bugs you that much.

Modifié par Mahrac, 26 décembre 2012 - 08:46 .

[darkpassenger2342]

DullahansXMark wrote...

Lord_Sirian wrote...

Arppis wrote...

Lord_Sirian wrote...

Sorry, all I read was "WAAAAAAAAAAAH I
CAN'T RELOAD CANCEL PROPERLY CUZ IM ON FAILSTATION 3. NO FAIR BIOWER
((((((((((((((((((((((((((("

I can, I am über god it seems.

 

You can't do it as well as you can on PC.

It's not nearly as bad as you think. Granted, yes it is easier on PC, but it's not a god's power on consoles.

i can see the routine of using the medi-gel key becoming second nature, but on most classes it becomes the same way with the powers.... just not every class for me.
 you know when i get really screwed up with R?CIng??
marksman classes... it takes me like 3 waves to adjust everytime.
and yes, i know markman reloads, i shouldnt need rc, but theres still times you do even with that power, like if you just used it and have to reload a second time.
this is when i accidentally use marksman, thinking its TC.

Modifié par darkpassenger2342, 26 décembre 2012 - 08:50 .

[Arppis]

Mahrac wrote...

So you;re compliants are that it's not as obvious as GoW, and the name?

The GoW method wouldn't work since there are no mags, you're just knocking a heat sink outl not exactly mini-game material.

The name is fan-made not official. You could just try making a petition to change it if it bugs you that much.

That's right and even just that unloading the sink can be done much faster.

I just wish they would do something about it in ME4. Obviously they can't here.

[4ut0b4hn5child27]

Plerion wrote...

Why did Bioware make a hidden feature that behaves exactly like a bug? If they wanted an interactive reload, they should have done like Gears of War and created something that actually looks like a legitimate game mechanic. Instead of a quick reload move, we have a "reload cancel" (a term which literally implies that the gun is NOT reloaded) and a ridiculous cut-off animation. This is nonsensical, lazy, poor game design. It should have been a concrete game mechanic with no balance issues, rather than a harsh jerking motion that is essentially indistinguishable from a glitch. This is necessary because I am very active at reporting and destroying glitchers on the games that I play and do not like when game developers practically disguise intentional features as cheats. This should not be seen as an unreasonable opinion. 


 

I also don't know how to do the R Cancel, and Even i can do, i don't want to do because I don't feel I need to do it.

Besides, whinning about Reload Cancelling is actually just silly.

and not all game are PURE CLEAN.

there is always bug, cheat, etc.

so i just said this with Oppan Krogan Style

STOP WHINING

Modifié par 4ut0b4hn5child27, 26 décembre 2012 - 08:52 .

[Titus Thongger]

I remember once I botched a reload cancel on my krogan's claymore 3 times in a row while a centurion was busy pumping me full of lead.

then I just gave up and backhanded the summavahamster into orbit.

felt good

[Arppis]

Titus Thongger wrote...

I remember once I botched a reload cancel on my krogan's claymore 3 times in a row while a centurion was busy pumping me full of lead.

then I just gave up and backhanded the summavahamster into orbit.

felt good

Haha. Nice.

[Lovaas]

Lord_Sirian wrote...

Sorry, all I read was "WAAAAAAAAAAAH I CAN'T RELOAD CANCEL PROPERLY CUZ IM ON FAILSTATION 3. NO FAIR BIOWER ((((((((((((((((((((((((((("

No kidding, why are we even having this discussion? Reload cancel is the sensible shoe of shooter games. Everybody does it, this is an unbelievebly trivial thing to be buttburt about. This is both the worst gripe thread and the worst troll thread i have seen this week. Stan please lock this thread because this is absolutely asinine.

[Lord Rosario]

Lord_Sirian wrote...

Arppis wrote...

Lord_Sirian wrote...

Sorry, all I read was "WAAAAAAAAAAAH I
CAN'T RELOAD CANCEL PROPERLY CUZ IM ON FAILSTATION 3. NO FAIR BIOWER
((((((((((((((((((((((((((("

I can, I am über god it seems.

 

You can't do it as well as you can on PC.

Suppose box players that use it then are just more skilled. It is more difficult after all.