Reload canceling poor game design
#51
Posté 26 décembre 2012 - 08:52
What if I told you, that raising powerful Pokemon is much MUCH more than merely leveling up? See, for those who just want to enjoy the game, there's merely that... But what if you want to be better than that? To be the very best like no one ever was? There are SO many hidden numbers that the games don't even tell you about that determine how powerful your Mons are. Is this truly lazy design? No. It's an intentionally secret mechanic.
Same as reload canceling.
#52
Posté 26 décembre 2012 - 08:53
Lovaas wrote...
Lord_Sirian wrote...
Sorry, all I read was "WAAAAAAAAAAAH I CAN'T RELOAD CANCEL PROPERLY CUZ IM ON FAILSTATION 3. NO FAIR BIOWER((((((((((((((((((((((((((("
No kidding, why are we even having this discussion? Reload cancel is the sensible shoe of shooter games. Everybody does it, this is an unbelievebly trivial thing to be buttburt about. This is both the worst gripe thread and the worst troll thread i have seen this week. Stan please lock this thread because this is absolutely asinine.
"I don't like this, fix it biower!" Huh.. Both you and the OP apparently think alike.
#53
Guest_Lord_Sirian_*
Posté 26 décembre 2012 - 08:54
Guest_Lord_Sirian_*
Lord Rosario wrote...
Lord_Sirian wrote...
Arppis wrote...
Lord_Sirian wrote...
Sorry, all I read was "WAAAAAAAAAAAH I
CAN'T RELOAD CANCEL PROPERLY CUZ IM ON FAILSTATION 3. NO FAIR BIOWER((((((((((((((((((((((((((("
I can, I am über god it seems.
You can't do it as well as you can on PC.
Suppose box players that use it then are just more skilled. It is more difficult after all.
Skill ceiling is so low on console because of gimped controls, we'll never know if any of you scrubs are actually any good or not.
#54
Posté 26 décembre 2012 - 08:55
I could deal with its removal but damn, does it ever make a number of guns a whole lot less annoying to use.
#55
Posté 26 décembre 2012 - 08:57
Lord_Sirian wrote...
Skill ceiling is so low on console because of gimped controls.
dis iz y i got da pc vershen of da gaim.
tl'dr: Console is easier.
#56
Posté 26 décembre 2012 - 08:57
Lovaas wrote...
Lord_Sirian wrote...
Sorry, all I read was "WAAAAAAAAAAAH I CAN'T RELOAD CANCEL PROPERLY CUZ IM ON FAILSTATION 3. NO FAIR BIOWER((((((((((((((((((((((((((("
No kidding, why are we even having this discussion? Reload cancel is the sensible shoe of shooter games. Everybody does it, this is an unbelievebly trivial thing to be buttburt about. This is both the worst gripe thread and the worst troll thread i have seen this week. Stan please lock this thread because this is absolutely asinine.
Yes, I am on PS3, but if that means I am prohibited from using an intended feature, it is even more absurd. Again, saying that "other games have it" is not an argument against anything I have said. You are a useless human being; stop.
#57
Posté 26 décembre 2012 - 08:57
AppealToReason wrote...
If they changed it to a hot/active reload in the future/now people would just complain. "ERMAGERD BIOWER Y U HAF TO RUEN MASSEFFECT WIT OTHUR GAYMES"
I could deal with its removal but damn, does it ever make a number of guns a whole lot less annoying to use.
In Gears of War the guy reloads even when you take cover and vault over covers. If you do it by normal lenght reloads. With Active reloads it's almost instant in most cases.
#58
Posté 26 décembre 2012 - 08:57
Modifié par JohnBobbyTheThird, 26 décembre 2012 - 08:58 .
#59
Posté 26 décembre 2012 - 08:57
VerySeed wrote...
Lord_Sirian wrote...
Skill ceiling is so low on console because of gimped controls.
dis iz y i got da pc vershen of da gaim.
tl'dr: Console is easier.
you have found the light, brother.
we welcome you
#60
Guest_Lord_Sirian_*
Posté 26 décembre 2012 - 08:58
Guest_Lord_Sirian_*
Plerion wrote...
Lovaas wrote...
Lord_Sirian wrote...
Sorry, all I read was "WAAAAAAAAAAAH I CAN'T RELOAD CANCEL PROPERLY CUZ IM ON FAILSTATION 3. NO FAIR BIOWER((((((((((((((((((((((((((("
No kidding, why are we even having this discussion? Reload cancel is the sensible shoe of shooter games. Everybody does it, this is an unbelievebly trivial thing to be buttburt about. This is both the worst gripe thread and the worst troll thread i have seen this week. Stan please lock this thread because this is absolutely asinine.
Yes, I am on PS3, but if that means I am prohibited from using an intended feature, it is even more absurd. Again, saying that "other games have it" is not an argument against anything I have said. You are a useless human being; stop.
I'm just curious.
On a scale of 1 - Chris Brown, how mad are you exactly?
Getting mad about reload cancelling is absolutely ridiculous. There is no debate on this. It's over.
#61
Posté 26 décembre 2012 - 08:59
no one speaks out against my stupid opinions in this thread, where i am king. ( its MY thread)
now bow your to master and agree reload cancelling is cheating or make your own thread.
Modifié par darkpassenger2342, 26 décembre 2012 - 09:00 .
#62
Posté 26 décembre 2012 - 09:00
But what if PC players are only that good because they have better controls? It's a secret to everybody.Lord_Sirian wrote...
Lord Rosario wrote...
Suppose box players that use it then are just more skilled. It is more difficult after all.
Skill ceiling is so low on console because of gimped controls, we'll never know if any of you scrubs are actually any good or not.
#63
Posté 26 décembre 2012 - 09:00
Lord_Sirian wrote...
Lord Rosario wrote...
Lord_Sirian wrote...
Arppis wrote...
Lord_Sirian wrote...
Sorry, all I read was "WAAAAAAAAAAAH I
CAN'T RELOAD CANCEL PROPERLY CUZ IM ON FAILSTATION 3. NO FAIR BIOWER((((((((((((((((((((((((((("
I can, I am über god it seems.
You can't do it as well as you can on PC.
Suppose box players that use it then are just more skilled. It is more difficult after all.
Skill ceiling is so low on console because of gimped controls, we'll never know if any of you scrubs are actually any good or not.
Running a mile is easy. Running a mile through snow with a 50 lb backpack in sandals is hard and requires skill.
#64
Posté 26 décembre 2012 - 09:01
DullahansXMark wrote...
But what if PC players are only that good because they have better controls? It's a secret to everybody.Lord_Sirian wrote...
Lord Rosario wrote...
Suppose box players that use it then are just more skilled. It is more difficult after all.
Skill ceiling is so low on console because of gimped controls, we'll never know if any of you scrubs are actually any good or not.
the circle logic is strong within you, my friend.
#65
Posté 26 décembre 2012 - 09:02
Titus Thongger wrote...
VerySeed wrote...
Lord_Sirian wrote...
Skill ceiling is so low on console because of gimped controls.
dis iz y i got da pc vershen of da gaim.
tl'dr: Console is easier.
you have found the light, brother.
we welcome you
thank you thank you. it feels good man.
#66
Posté 26 décembre 2012 - 09:02
Plerion wrote...
Lovaas wrote...
Lord_Sirian wrote...
Sorry, all I read was "WAAAAAAAAAAAH I CAN'T RELOAD CANCEL PROPERLY CUZ IM ON FAILSTATION 3. NO FAIR BIOWER((((((((((((((((((((((((((("
No kidding, why are we even having this discussion? Reload cancel is the sensible shoe of shooter games. Everybody does it, this is an unbelievebly trivial thing to be buttburt about. This is both the worst gripe thread and the worst troll thread i have seen this week. Stan please lock this thread because this is absolutely asinine.
Yes, I am on PS3, but if that means I am prohibited from using an intended feature, it is even more absurd. Again, saying that "other games have it" is not an argument against anything I have said. You are a useless human being; stop.
What? You can do it on PS3.
#67
Posté 26 décembre 2012 - 09:02
That light will be your funneral pyre, peasent.Titus Thongger wrote...
VerySeed wrote...
Lord_Sirian wrote...
Skill ceiling is so low on console because of gimped controls.
dis iz y i got da pc vershen of da gaim.
tl'dr: Console is easier.
you have found the light, brother.
we welcome you
#68
Guest_Lord_Sirian_*
Posté 26 décembre 2012 - 09:04
Guest_Lord_Sirian_*
DullahansXMark wrote...
But what if PC players are only that good because they have better controls? It's a secret to everybody.Lord_Sirian wrote...
Lord Rosario wrote...
Suppose box players that use it then are just more skilled. It is more difficult after all.
Skill ceiling is so low on console because of gimped controls, we'll never know if any of you scrubs are actually any good or not.
Because on PC the gap between the worst players and the best players is vastly bigger than the same gap on consoles.
For example: Gold PUG's on PC are actually WORSE than they are on console.
#69
Posté 26 décembre 2012 - 09:04
VerySeed wrote...
Lord_Sirian wrote...
Skill ceiling is so low on console because of gimped controls.
dis iz y i got da pc vershen of da gaim.
tl'dr: Console is easier.
So wait... You switched to PC because it was TOO HARD on consoles to reload cancel? And then you say consoles are easier?
Wut?
#70
Posté 26 décembre 2012 - 09:06
Ah, the art of EV training i see.DullahansXMark wrote...
To everyone who agrees with the OP...
What if I told you, that raising powerful Pokemon is much MUCH more than merely leveling up? See, for those who just want to enjoy the game, there's merely that... But what if you want to be better than that? To be the very best like no one ever was? There are SO many hidden numbers that the games don't even tell you about that determine how powerful your Mons are. Is this truly lazy design? No. It's an intentionally secret mechanic.
Same as reload canceling.
#71
Posté 26 décembre 2012 - 09:07
Its no more skill than using soft cover the Reegar-power ability thing, corner trapping in fighting games, or clipping in FPS games.
#72
Posté 26 décembre 2012 - 09:07
Exactly. Glad to meet a fellow fan.LegionofRannoch wrote...
Ah, the art of EV training i see.DullahansXMark wrote...
To everyone who agrees with the OP...
What if I told you, that raising powerful Pokemon is much MUCH more than merely leveling up? See, for those who just want to enjoy the game, there's merely that... But what if you want to be better than that? To be the very best like no one ever was? There are SO many hidden numbers that the games don't even tell you about that determine how powerful your Mons are. Is this truly lazy design? No. It's an intentionally secret mechanic.
Same as reload canceling.
#73
Posté 26 décembre 2012 - 09:07
#74
Posté 26 décembre 2012 - 09:08
Arppis wrote...
VerySeed wrote...
Lord_Sirian wrote...
Skill ceiling is so low on console because of gimped controls.
dis iz y i got da pc vershen of da gaim.
tl'dr: Console is easier.
So wait... You switched to PC because it was TOO HARD on consoles to reload cancel? And then you say consoles are easier?
Wut?
No i switched to PC because I prefer to be challenged in a way that is in my control, instead of fighting a gimped control scheme. ( I mostly blame biower for this, not consoles in general.) Oh, and it wasn't just reload cancelling that made me change, but it's definately a nice bonus.
And console is definately easier because the AI is a LOT more inaccurate compared to PC AI. Dragoons, phantoms, marauders are SO much more deadly on PC.
#75
Posté 26 décembre 2012 - 09:08
To say nothing of those damned IVsDullahansXMark wrote...
Exactly. Glad to meet a fellow fan.LegionofRannoch wrote...
Ah, the art of EV training i see.DullahansXMark wrote...
To everyone who agrees with the OP...
What if I told you, that raising powerful Pokemon is much MUCH more than merely leveling up? See, for those who just want to enjoy the game, there's merely that... But what if you want to be better than that? To be the very best like no one ever was? There are SO many hidden numbers that the games don't even tell you about that determine how powerful your Mons are. Is this truly lazy design? No. It's an intentionally secret mechanic.
Same as reload canceling.





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