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[QseftJohn]

the reason the collector are so hard is because they are blitzers, and that can make them harder than a mob of stunlocking geth. I once had to use 3 missiles on a wave ten silver because we were doing a escort mission and the Praetorians kept on spawning and blocking our path. No other faction can get in frount of you like that.

[GeneralMoskvin_2.0]

Hm. I had a match with the infidrell today. Was nice n' easy. Collectors are great fun to fight even on gold. They simply have this...."special" element with the possessions.

Modifié par GeneralMoskvin_2.0, 26 décembre 2012 - 07:41 .

[Royse]

Rathet fun to play, yes. They are no Geth definitely

[GriM_AoD]

A bit resistant to power users. But if your team is packing - not too much trouble. A good fight.

[ryoldschool]

The only good thing about collectors is that they are not the geth, and for this I am thankful. Prefer playing (reapers/Cerberus), collectors, then geth.

[Disciple888]

Let me put it like this. I can carry terrible scrubs for any faction on plat except collectors (unless I'm an inf)

[whateverman7]

they were never 'that hard'...the uproar about them was just cause the majority of the bsn is just a bunch of (insert whatever derogatory word you like) when it comes to gaming....anyway, i find them harder now than when they first came out because they tend to freeze my ps3 now, which sucks cause i enjoy playing against them

[HardcoreSalmon]

They're not really hard they're just cheap. Hordes of abominations, the spamming of seeker plagues, scions spamming grenades and praetorians blocking powers, wall hacking, infinite melee stagger lock and magnet grabs to name a few. The only things I think are overpowered are the scions cannon, praetorians lasers and collector captains.

Everytime I solo I seem to do best against collectors for some reason, I don't know why.

[holdenagincourt]

When I used optimized setups, Collectors are not that hard.

But they're still harder (more consumables, more time, more likelihood of a wipe) than any of the other three would be with that setup on the same difficulty, and this is almost never differential by kit. I enjoy a challenge, but I also enjoy being rewarded appropriately for my time and effort, since I don't have a maxed manifest on either platform I play on. So I prefer playing against other factions.

If I had a maxed manifest and tons of extra consumables lying around like so many players here, I might not mind the added challenge and frustration for no greater reward, but as it is that's not the case.

[xero_sensi]

collectors can definetly be a pain in the arse, but for my Asari Vanguard, headshots galore makes them not as bad

[darkblade]

ZombieGambit wrote...

Collectors are cheap.

-Take 33% less damage from combos
-Praetorians shoot lasers through their butts and after they die, plus their lasers bypass shield/healthgate
-Scion shots stop shield regen for a while
-Collector Captain is the most powerful enemy in its class, tougher than the Marauder etc.
-Seeker Swarms have too much health
-Possession makes enemies a little too powerful, Preatorian rockets, Scion grenades, Abomination nukes, and Swarm explosions
-Praetorians move too fast and too far while flying, which makes powers absolutely useless, another downside for playing as a caster against Collectors
-Seeker Swarms are unfairly biased against casters since weapons only get a slight accuracy decrease while powers can't be used at all

- I like a faction that's strong against certain types of enemies. They make combo casters less effective, but it doesn't hurt casters that don't need to combo at all.
- First part is true, second part isnt. The beams is just like a PPR, its not a knife it counts as several projecticles you can get hit more than once by it, I've been shield, then health gated by the same beam.
-They do spend a bit too much time flying, but it isnt a problem. Four people on a team if everyone played a caster then yeah you are screwed, but what you are saying here is kinda like complaining about losing to the fire pokemon gym leader when you have a team of grass and bug types. If you go into collectors you know what they do so prepare accordingly, and unknown enemy is a gamble so meh.
-They are, but thats intended. Honestly Idk why the other factions can't shut players down as well.

• Cerberus engineers should be able able to sabotage and force players to reload and their guns and vent.
• Geth should have emps
• reapers should have beacons that screw with your controls to emulate indoctrination.

Modifié par darkblade, 26 décembre 2012 - 10:25 .

[COLZ7R]

Dont mind them at all. Just move the seeker swarms over to the geth faction and all the **** is in the one place!!

[darkblade]

Geth might as well have seeker swarms.

Cant use my powers after a prime shoots me.
Cant use powers after a hunter shoots me.
screw it, if anything touches you you can't do anything.

They should just remake the geth. When you load the map the controller should get super hot and force you to put it down.

[Tupari]

The collectors are actually pretty cheap, they have this special move where they freeze my PS3.

[jlee375]

My only gripe is that Seeker Swarms do damage as well as locking out your powers. Seems a bit excessive given their high hit points and odd hit-box.

Otherwise, I rather enjoy their challenge personally. Also, their big heads mean headshot medals all around.

Modifié par jlee375, 27 décembre 2012 - 12:57 .

[Clayless]

I actually find them fun. Once you realise to prioritise Swarms and shoot the lump on the Sion they become so much easier.

[Red Panda]

The fact that they get grenades to throw is just BS, but with a good gun and some ammo, they're easy credits. One simply needs to use hard cover against the giant puppies that shoot lasers from their eyes.

[poonts]

another collectors are hard/cheap thread...

look if you're gonna play gold or higher, bring a powerful weapon with armor piercing amp or ammo. this doesn't mean a heavy weapon, just powerful. on any caster, the new weapon mods have made this entirely possible, without sacrificing cooldown significantly. example: talon, piranha, wraith... will all keep your cooldowns low and can put out major damage.

this is how the game has changed. powerful weapons on powerful, fast, mobile characters is what the balance has moved towards. forget how much shields you have, it hardly matters. shields are completely overemphasized by most players. So is "sticking together" and/or "holding down a position." the devs have obviously made the A.I. punish this type of play, on any enemy.

play aggressively but play smart. you may go down quite a bit at first but once u "get it" it won't matter which faction you face.

[Red Panda]

poonts wrote...

another collectors are hard/cheap thread...

look if you're gonna play gold or higher, bring a powerful weapon with armor piercing amp or ammo. this doesn't mean a heavy weapon, just powerful. on any caster, the new weapon mods have made this entirely possible, without sacrificing cooldown significantly. example: talon, piranha, wraith... will all keep your cooldowns low and can put out major damage.

this is how the game has changed. powerful weapons on powerful, fast, mobile characters is what the balance has moved towards. forget how much shields you have, it hardly matters. shields are completely overemphasized by most players. So is "sticking together" and/or "holding down a position." the devs have obviously made the A.I. punish this type of play, on any enemy.

play aggressively but play smart. you may go down quite a bit at first but once u "get it" it won't matter which faction you face.

Lolnope.

Cyclonic modulators are godly. That is all.

[Constant Motion]

My only real problem with collectors is the biotic explosion thing. Were that fixed, I'd be happy to face them just as any of the other three races - but I favour biotic classes, so it does make me feel very leaden whenever they come up. Regardless of class, actually, because if it's not me it'll be a teammate, so I think that probably colours my psychology. Plus, I've had some terrible experiences with them. Wiping a device objective on wave three silver was particularly soul-destroying. Abominations kept picking up the hacker. I used all my medi-gel, all my missiles, trying to cling to a device for ten poxy seconds - but we completely failed. Absolutely livid.

Broadly, though? I'll be happy when they fix the bugs. ("Fix the Bugs" - catchy slogan!)

[ThatGuyThatPlaysThisGame]

Easiest to hardest factions 1 being easiest and 4 being hardest (for me):
1) Reaper
2) Collector
3) Cerberus
4) Geth

[megawug]

Once they fix the bug where Collectors take less damage, they'll be fine. Until then, they are harder simply based on that fact alone. Then the Geth stunlock cheapest wins.

[solidprice]

tatski wrote...

On gold, Collectors can be rough to play against with power oriented kits.. But against weapon oriented kits they're quite easy, but  they're still toughest faction. Fully armed Destroyer, TSol, HSol, GI or TGI with level 3/4 equipments can easily tear their toughest unit apart in a few seconds...

with shooting kits: easy (I lol when im a destroyer)


with caster kits: very hard. ( no powers + so-so guns + mostly squishy kits = a pain in the ass and/or lots of deaths)

they would be good if there were less and/or weaker swarmer's, and something to encourage power users
(ex, buff the + damage to armor/barrier part of powers?)

[Vlark]

They turn my SuicideFury into a hell of a gamble. Its Hilarious to see if the Captain will get his Swarms out or not. Its 50:50 every time

[mybudgee]

I like them.. I enjoy the challenge