DeinonSlayer wrote...
AlanC9 wrote...
I fully remember the discussions over it. What people wanted was an ending that made sense and that didn't show Joker running away (out of character), stranded on an unknown planet with people that logically should have all died (relays) or would die since not everyone could eat the same food even if there was food.
How did people get to the italed part? The jungle planet couldn't be all that far from Earth since Charon's only a secondary relay. Even Team Dextro would be OK since the quarian liveships were at Earth.
The Normandy left the system via FTL - they're never seen entering the relay. The only habitable planet within FTL range of Earth as established in Mass Effect canon is in the Alpha Centauri system (from Cerberus Daily News - search Manswell Expedition), which mean the Normandy is less than half a day away from Earth at cruising speed. Just stack on however long it takes them to do whatever repairs they set down for, and that's how long it would take them to get back.
In the original endings there was no context with which to assume the quarian ships were anywhere near where the Normandy crashed. However, even that was a moot point because from everything BW had told us (in the game and outside of the game), all systems would have been destroyed and at the very least terrestrial planets would have been ruined (ruptured relay codex still exists in the game). I just love it when this stuff is stated and someone will say that the codex isn't supposed to mean anything-then they also say that the war asset screens in the war room are not meant to be taken literally. But, then other things in the game or on twitter or in the books and comics are meant to be "real".
The original Normandy crash scene was ridiculous on so many levels. Mainly it was because it was hard to believe the Normany would have survived what should have destroyed everything in any star system with a relay. Then, even if somehow it did survive it's hard to believe the crew would find food that everyone could eat. To use AlanC9's point, we'd then have to go another step further and not only believe the Normandy survived what it should not have, but that some Quarian ships would as well. Big problem is assuming they'd end up in the same place, would not have then crashed too, would be able to communicate and/or look for someone alive on a planet when they might more likely focus on their own situation and not randomly look and see if someone crashed somewhere.
In order to make sense of that original Normandy crash scene, you had to draw too many conclusions to make it make sense, first of all and then to feel upbeat about it (yay, they survived), you had to make up too much stuff to make it work. The torso scene was similar and has only changed because Liara might smile slightly and the Normandy takes off. But, at least I can understand Liara having some sort of psychic connection with the torso, not so Garrus or anyone else. And we have no good context for what happened to Shepard at the time of the explosion-coupled with no good explanation for what would happen.
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